Fordham Law School for big law in NYC.

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Fordham Law School for big law in NYC.

Postby jbc7 » Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:45 pm

Is it worth it? I been doing a lot of research and there has been mixed opinions regarding Fordham about big law. Do a lot of Fordham graduates generally go on and do big law in New York? Or is it rare?

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Re: Fordham Law School for big law in NYC.

Postby JamMasterJ » Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:48 pm

I've heard that it's basically 50/50 and that a lot of the class ends up in not the best situation

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Re: Fordham Law School for big law in NYC.

Postby johansantana21 » Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:50 pm

JamMasterJ wrote:I've heard that it's basically 50/50 and that a lot of the class ends up in not the best situation

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50/50? Not even close ITE. More like 25%-30%.

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Re: Fordham Law School for big law in NYC.

Postby Veyron » Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:51 pm

johansantana21 wrote:
JamMasterJ wrote:I've heard that it's basically 50/50 and that a lot of the class ends up in not the best situation

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50/50? Not even close ITE. More like 25%-30%.


25-30 to be generous.

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Re: Fordham Law School for big law in NYC.

Postby JamMasterJ » Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:52 pm

johansantana21 wrote:
JamMasterJ wrote:I've heard that it's basically 50/50 and that a lot of the class ends up in not the best situation

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50/50? Not even close ITE. More like 25%-30%.

Really? LST indicates that 55% is Art III + 160K

ETA: I think I misread it, but it still seems like it's higher than 30%
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Re: Fordham Law School for big law in NYC.

Postby johansantana21 » Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:52 pm

Veyron wrote:
johansantana21 wrote:
JamMasterJ wrote:I've heard that it's basically 50/50 and that a lot of the class ends up in not the best situation

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50/50? Not even close ITE. More like 25%-30%.


25-30 to be generous.


Meh, I think 25-30 is accurate. Fordham still is pretty strong for a non-t14. I don't think they place less than 25%.

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Re: Fordham Law School for big law in NYC.

Postby vanwinkle » Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:56 pm

Fordham is strong for a non-T14, but that's obviously a relative statement. Non-T14s are weak for BigLaw hiring in general ITE. 20% would be strong placement for a non-T14 right now.

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Re: Fordham Law School for big law in NYC.

Postby Blindmelon » Wed Dec 07, 2011 12:05 pm

Its probably the 15th best law school for bigfirm placement in NYC. hth

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Re: Fordham Law School for big law in NYC.

Postby FlightoftheEarls » Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:06 pm

JamMasterJ wrote:
johansantana21 wrote:
JamMasterJ wrote:I've heard that it's basically 50/50 and that a lot of the class ends up in not the best situation

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50/50? Not even close ITE. More like 25%-30%.

Really? LST indicates that 55% is Art III + 160K

ETA: I think I misread it, but it still seems like it's higher than 30%

That's for the graduating class of 2009 which was doing OCI in 2007 at the very peak of the hiring bubble. The class that got crushed the worst at OCI was class of 2011 (followed by my class, 2012), and the class that got killed with no-offers was the class of 2010.

Wait one more year. It's not going to be anywhere close to 50/50.

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Re: Fordham Law School for big law in NYC.

Postby cuzinvinny » Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:36 pm

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Re: Fordham Law School for big law in NYC.

Postby OnceUponAMemo » Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:41 pm

OCI this year at Fordham was apparently a lot better than last year's as well. Supposedly last year there were about 25% of the class that had a market firm job lined up for their 2L summer associate position by the end of 2L year (so this year's 3L's), this year that number has already been surpassed.

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Re: Fordham Law School for big law in NYC.

Postby Easy-E » Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:30 am

Taking into account debt and career prospects, would Fordham Law be preferable over a school like Rutgers (in-state tuition, plus 10k+ scholly)? For the sake of this example, let's say its Fordham at sticker. I don't know how they are with $$$, and whether someone in my situation would be even be considered for it

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Re: Fordham Law School for big law in NYC.

Postby Veyron » Wed Dec 21, 2011 2:02 pm

OnceUponAMemo wrote:OCI this year at Fordham was apparently a lot better than last year's as well. Supposedly last year there were about 25% of the class that had a market firm job lined up for their 2L summer associate position by the end of 2L year (so this year's 3L's), this year that number has already been surpassed.


(It is 2006)

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Re: Fordham Law School for big law in NYC.

Postby Grizz » Wed Dec 21, 2011 2:14 pm

lol @ people who think we're getting back to 2007 anytime soon.

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Re: Fordham Law School for big law in NYC.

Postby 20130312 » Wed Dec 21, 2011 2:18 pm

Grizz wrote:lol @ people who think we're getting back to 2007 anytime soon ever.


FTFY

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Re: Fordham Law School for big law in NYC.

Postby nashirley » Thu Jun 06, 2013 12:11 am

Can anyone comment on Fordham RE: Big Law more recently?

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Re: Fordham Law School for big law in NYC.

Postby westphillybandr » Thu Jun 06, 2013 12:20 am

nashirley wrote:Can anyone comment on Fordham RE: Big Law more recently?

not good

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Re: Fordham Law School for big law in NYC.

Postby rad lulz » Thu Jun 06, 2013 12:24 am

nashirley wrote:Can anyone comment on Fordham RE: Big Law more recently?

lawschooltransparency.com

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Re: Fordham Law School for big law in NYC.

Postby nashirley » Thu Jun 06, 2013 12:25 am

Maybe I am not reading the LST stats correctly, but I'm seeing just under 25% employed full time at firms with 500+ attorneys.

Is it safe to assume that this 1/4 in large firm jobs are almost exclusively in big law?

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Re: Fordham Law School for big law in NYC.

Postby sublime » Thu Jun 06, 2013 12:33 am

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Re: Fordham Law School for big law in NYC.

Postby Paul Campos » Thu Jun 06, 2013 7:48 am

sublime wrote:
nashirley wrote:Maybe I am not reading the LST stats correctly, but I'm seeing just under 25% employed full time at firms with 500+ attorneys.

Is it safe to assume that this 1/4 in large firm jobs are almost exclusively in big law?



A firm with 500 or more attorneys can be safely considered to be big law, yes.


However it's becoming increasingly dangerous to assume that being employed full time at a 500+ lawyer firm means a market-paying job, as opposed to a "staff attorney" position that pays $60K. At one top 35 law school nearly half of the 2012 grads listed as having jobs with big firms are actually staff attorneys in Dayton and Wheeling. (Can't say which but caveat emptor).

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Re: Fordham Law School for big law in NYC.

Postby guano » Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:05 am

Realistically, you need to be top 1/3 to have any real chance. A little over 20% get bigkaw, and approximately 25% get biglaw + fed clerkship

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Re: Fordham Law School for big law in NYC.

Postby kryptix » Thu Jun 06, 2013 10:39 am

As a side note, ~1/2 of the class of 2014 evening students who worked full time throughout school got big law, and 1/4 didn't look for it...

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Re: Fordham Law School for big law in NYC.

Postby guano » Thu Jun 06, 2013 10:46 am

kryptix wrote:As a side note, ~1/2 of the class of 2014 evening students who worked full time throughout school got big law, and 1/4 didn't look for it...

Are you sure that's right?
That would mean that approximately 1/3 of all biglaw jobs from Fordham were taken by evening students

Math:
Roughly 470 students total per incoming year (full+part time). Approximately 20-22% biglaw, means roughly 100 biglaw jobs
Roughly 70 part time students, so 35 getting biglaw

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Re: Fordham Law School for big law in NYC.

Postby Tekrul » Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:50 am

If that's true, I suppose the additional work experience the part timers are able to accrue is extremely valuable to employers.




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