166/3.28 in DC

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166/3.28 in DC

Postby john1990 » Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:27 pm

I want to practice in DC, but i probably wont be able to get into GWU.
What is the next best law school for DC? Is it W&M and W&L?
I don't care about scholarships since job prospects are so dependent on schools, they out weigh scholarships for me

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Re: 166/3.28 in DC

Postby Wholigan » Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:31 pm

If you want to work in private practice in DC, the correct choice is to retake.

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Re: 166/3.28 in DC

Postby patrickd139 » Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:33 pm

Just know that even with a degree from YLS, DC's a tough nut to crack.

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Re: 166/3.28 in DC

Postby WSJ_Law » Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:34 pm

Shoooooo that GPA stinks! If you want DC introduce yourself to that silly law center diploma mill thing. btw you need 170+ hth

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Re: 166/3.28 in DC

Postby john1990 » Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:37 pm

I'd be lying if i said that i didn't see these comments coming a mile away. I am retaking. However, the question was: What is the best law school for practicing big law in DC after GW.

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Re: 166/3.28 in DC

Postby WSJ_Law » Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:38 pm

YLS

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Re: 166/3.28 in DC

Postby patrickd139 » Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:39 pm

john1990 wrote:I'd be lying if i said that i didn't see these comments coming a mile away. I am retaking. However, the question was: What is the best law school for practicing big law in DC after GW.

I'm not sure there's an answer to your question. "Best school for practicing biglaw in DC" and "not including GULC or GWU" are going to give you every fungible school that's ranked lower than GWU on the USNWR rankings.

Put another way: I would not spend one fucking penny on a law school ranked lower than GWU if my goal was DC biglaw.

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Re: 166/3.28 in DC

Postby john1990 » Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:41 pm

WSJ_Law wrote:YLS


so your saying the GW is better than YLS :|

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Re: 166/3.28 in DC

Postby Blindmelon » Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:43 pm

Best school for DC below GW? William and Mary.

Also:

patrickd139 wrote:Just know that even with a degree from YLS, DC's a tough nut to crack.


This is silly.

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Re: 166/3.28 in DC

Postby john1990 » Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:44 pm

patrickd139 wrote:
john1990 wrote:I'd be lying if i said that i didn't see these comments coming a mile away. I am retaking. However, the question was: What is the best law school for practicing big law in DC after GW.

I'm not sure there's an answer to your question. "Best school for practicing biglaw in DC" and "not including GULC or GWU" are going to give you every fungible school that's ranked lower than GWU on the USNWR rankings.

Put another way: I would not spend one fucking penny on a law school ranked lower than GWU if my goal was DC biglaw.


No, the best would only give you one result, the next highest ranked school :roll:
There is another consideration here though and that is job placement in DC. Im sure that this was an honest mistake on your part :|
also, i suggest that you watch your language

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Re: 166/3.28 in DC

Postby john1990 » Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:45 pm

Blindmelon wrote:Best school for DC below GW? William and Mary.

Also:

patrickd139 wrote:Just know that even with a degree from YLS, DC's a tough nut to crack.


This is silly.


thank you
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Re: 166/3.28 in DC

Postby WSJ_Law » Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:45 pm

john1990 wrote:
WSJ_Law wrote:YLS


so your saying the GW is better than YLS :|


Greetings,

No Brother I am saying you are a fucking TTT idiot who will not get into DC with a SPS 166/3.2.

Hth

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Re: 166/3.28 in DC

Postby john1990 » Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:49 pm

WSJ_Law wrote:
john1990 wrote:
WSJ_Law wrote:YLS


so your saying the GW is better than YLS :|


Greetings,

No Brother I am saying you are a fucking TTT idiot who will not get into DC with a SPS 166/3.2.

Hth


well then YLS must be a funny abbreviation with many meanings where you come from. Either way, what your saying is irrelevant to this thread. :arrow:

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Re: 166/3.28 in DC

Postby patrickd139 » Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:53 pm

john1990 wrote:No, the best would only give you one result, the next highest ranked school :roll:
There is another consideration here though and that is job placement in DC. Im sure that this was an honest mistake on your part :|
also, i suggest that you watch your language

1) The point is that, for biglaw purposes in DC, it doesn't matter.
2) You clearly care about job prospects. Your OP says so.
john1990 wrote: job prospects are so dependent on schools

Why would you go to another school, that has decreased job prospects, when you could spend a year retaking, and going to GT or GW?
3) As to the bolded, are you making some sort of threat on an anonymous internet forum? Really? Fuck you buddy.

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Re: 166/3.28 in DC

Postby 09042014 » Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:56 pm

For DC it's YHS >> TTT

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Re: 166/3.28 in DC

Postby john1990 » Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:57 pm

patrickd139 wrote:
john1990 wrote:No, the best would only give you one result, the next highest ranked school :roll:
There is another consideration here though and that is job placement in DC. Im sure that this was an honest mistake on your part :|
also, i suggest that you watch your language

1) The point is that, for biglaw purposes in DC, it doesn't matter.
2) You clearly care about job prospects. Your OP says so.
john1990 wrote: job prospects are so dependent on schools

Why would you go to another school, that has decreased job prospects, when you could spend a year retaking, and going to GT or GW?
3) As to the bolded, are you making some sort of fucking threat on an anonymous internet forum? Really? Fuck you buddy.


I was not threatening, just politely asking :roll:

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Re: 166/3.28 in DC

Postby ColtsFan88 » Sat Dec 03, 2011 2:56 pm

I was a 3.2/166 last cycle, primarily interested in BigGov/D.C. At of the advice of TLS I retook and scored a 177. Just got my first acceptance this cycle to GWU. If at all possible, I think it would behoove you to study hard and retake for next cycle.

EDIT: Damn this thread turned hostile fast. Also, the person who said W&M is next best after GWU is probably correct. There is aquite the gap between GWU and W&M though.

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Re: 166/3.28 in DC

Postby vanwinkle » Sat Dec 03, 2011 3:35 pm

WSJ_Law wrote:Greetings,

No Brother I am saying you are a fucking TTT idiot who will not get into DC with a SPS 166/3.2.

Hth

Uncalled for.

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Re: 166/3.28 in DC

Postby TooOld4This » Sat Dec 03, 2011 3:46 pm

john1990 wrote:I want to practice in DC, but i probably wont be able to get into GWU.
What is the next best law school for DC? Is it W&M and W&L?
I don't care about scholarships since job prospects are so dependent on schools, they out weigh scholarships for me


This isn't the right way to think about it. Once you get out of the T14 and GWU, the chance of breaking into the DC market is small enough that you should factor in scholarships. You are going to need to be near the very top of your class to be competitive for BigLaw coming from any school ranked lower than GWU. The chance that you will be there is low enough that a slight boost in the placement numbers (which are pretty much do to self selection at that point) isn't worth leaving money on the table.

If you aren't interested in BigLaw, then going to GMU, American, Catholic, UMd with a lot of money will put you in the area to network all through school.

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Re: 166/3.28 in DC

Postby srfngdd6 » Sat Dec 03, 2011 3:57 pm

To be honest with your numbers W&M is almost as unlikely as GW unless you are a URM...i guess W&L is a possibility but if you only want DC biglaw and you do not care about money going to a school like American would put you into the market and give you a shot to network the shit out of DC firms

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Re: 166/3.28 in DC

Postby tuckerp » Sun Dec 04, 2011 7:34 pm

Howard places really well at biglaw firms in DC... I don't know much about the school but their job placement at DC biglaw seems crazy good... You'll get a great job out of Howard and it's pretty easy to get accepted/possible scholarship

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Re: 166/3.28 in DC

Postby tennisking88 » Sun Dec 04, 2011 7:48 pm

srfngdd6 wrote:To be honest with your numbers W&M is almost as unlikely as GW unless you are a URM...firms


Completely false. 166 is above WM's median. You def have a shot there, at least better than GW.

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Re: 166/3.28 in DC

Postby jbc7 » Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:04 am

Retake.
But no TTT.

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Re: 166/3.28 in DC

Postby john1990 » Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:43 am

I am studying for a February retake, but i will only go through with it if i start prepping near 170, and i have already put in tons of time into studying. So i think that i may have peaked. However, i am prepping for a retake so we will see.

On the other hand, i might just go to Fordham/Emory if i cant make GWU. Emory hardly ever rejects 166's, even with sub 3 gpa's. Fordham took a 166/3.16 last year, as well as the last few years, so i think i have a shot at Fordham.

Should i apply now though and risk auto ding? Or apply in march?

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Re: 166/3.28 in DC

Postby tennisking88 » Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:51 am

Apply now, but honestly if you think you peaked, and are still scoring around 166 on your PTs, there's little chance that you'll improve. I would send in an app and hope for the best. If you really want to work in the DC area, you have a shot at WM/WL and you're in at Maryland/American/Catholic, with money at some if not at all 3.




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