IAFG wrote: ph14 wrote:
DoubleChecks wrote: i.e., mischaracterizations of the grading system here and how it affects OCI and the "pleasantness" of studying law at HLS
How does it get mischaracterized?
Well, I am mostly just speaking of how it was characterized in this thread. It isn't that bad really...in fact, it is awesome imo lol. Not as amazing as YLS', but pretty similar to SLS'.
37% get Hs during 1L classes (later on, more classes that don't follow the curve and give more H's), rest get Ps. Usually a couple get DS too in a class (Dean's Scholars). LPs are discretionary now and very few professors give the full 8%. In fact, I would say most either do not give it or only give out a handful per class (and those who got it [or the ones I heard of that got it] all knew they would, i.e. did not finish exam for one reason or another]). The grading system has made it (or maybe it was always like this?) decently non-competitive. HLS students still want the H, but I have not met anyone cutthroat or unwilling to help. My section mates were all helpful and nice (though I did hear there was 1 section known as the gunner section /shrugs lol). From what I've seen, the grading system makes everyone much more chill, and my own personal experience has been great (though I know some people who worked pretty hard 1L yr, but I don't think that was due to a necessity per se).
But of course the important part is how it affects OCI. This I feel pretty strongly about because, while anecdotal, I have talked to a lot of my peers about this. The grades don't seem to affect your chances much at all at most firms. The really prestigious/picky firms (ex: Wachtell, W&C, etc.) have sort of grade cutoffs or want to see great grades...and if you are on the other extreme, I imagine your chances would be worse (multiple LPs...I personally haven't even heard of a person with multiple LPs in my yr, but I can imagine some exist?)...but besides that, grades seem to not matter, even with V10s. Below median and above median and median all got the same, better, worse, varying biglaw jobs. If anything, interviewing skills and smart bidding seemed to be the rule of the game. I know of below median students that did the BEST out of everyone (ridiculous # of cbs) because of their interviewing prowess.