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New Princeton Review Rankings

Postby rinkrat19 » Tue Oct 11, 2011 8:01 pm

Probably not worth much (anything), but always fun to agonize and/or gloat over.

Career Propects - Northwestern
Classroom Experience - Stanford
Best Environment for Minority Students - University of Hawaii at Manoa
Best Quality of Life - Duke University
Most Liberal Students - Northeastern University
Most Conservative Students - Ave Maria
Most Competitive Students - Baylor University
Most Diverse Faculty - Southern University
Most Chosen By Older Students - University of New Mexico
Best Professors - Boston University
Toughest to Get Into - Yale University

http://www.princetonreview.com/law-school-rankings.aspx

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Re: New Princeton Review Rankings

Postby homestyle28 » Tue Oct 11, 2011 8:19 pm

rinkrat19 wrote:Probably not worth much (anything), but always fun to agonize and/or gloat over.

Career Propects - Northwestern
Classroom Experience - Stanford
Best Environment for Minority Students - University of Hawaii at Manoa
Best Quality of Life - Duke University
Most Liberal Students - Northeastern University
Most Conservative Students - Ave Maria
Most Competitive Students - Baylor University
Most Diverse Faculty - Southern University
Most Chosen By Older Students - University of New Mexico
Best Professors - Boston University
Toughest to Get Into - Yale University

http://www.princetonreview.com/law-school-rankings.aspx


You really hate to see all the numbers gaming that goes into the "Most Conservative Students" rankings...

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Re: New Princeton Review Rankings

Postby caputlupinum » Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:13 pm

homestyle28 wrote:
rinkrat19 wrote:Probably not worth much (anything), but always fun to agonize and/or gloat over.

Career Propects - Northwestern
Classroom Experience - Stanford
Best Environment for Minority Students - University of Hawaii at Manoa
Best Quality of Life - Duke University
Most Liberal Students - Northeastern University
Most Conservative Students - Ave Maria
Most Competitive Students - Baylor University
Most Diverse Faculty - Southern University
Most Chosen By Older Students - University of New Mexico
Best Professors - Boston University
Toughest to Get Into - Yale University

http://www.princetonreview.com/law-school-rankings.aspx


You really hate to see all the numbers gaming that goes into the "Most Conservative Students" rankings...


Ahahaha Ave Maria most conservative, did glenn beck tell his drones Ave Maria is a good school?

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Re: New Princeton Review Rankings

Postby bdubs » Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:24 pm

Yale being the toughest to get into is a huge shocker.

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Re: New Princeton Review Rankings

Postby crit_racer » Wed Oct 12, 2011 9:42 am

I wonder what their QOL determination is based on. I can think of literally dozens of schools more appealing than Duke in that regard.

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Re: New Princeton Review Rankings

Postby rinkrat19 » Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:33 am

crit_racer wrote:I wonder what their QOL determination is based on. I can think of literally dozens of schools more appealing than Duke in that regard.
I think a lot of the more subjective categories are based on student surveys.

Oh, here:
Best Quality of Life - Based on student answers to survey questions on: whether there is a strong sense of community at the school, how aesthetically pleasing the school is, the location of the school, the quality of social life at the school, the school's classroom facilities, and the library staff


Duke students are apparently really satisfied with themselves. The entire QOL top 10 is made up of schools in objectively cool places (Chicago, Denver, California) and southern schools.

Duke
UVA
Chapman
Vandy
NU
Colorado
Memphis
Samford
Denver
Stanford

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Re: New Princeton Review Rankings

Postby CanadianWolf » Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:12 pm

OP: Thanks for sharing this list. Are you able to share the top ten law schools for "Career Prospects" ?

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Re: New Princeton Review Rankings

Postby HeavenWood » Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:29 pm

I like how Georgetown is ranked ahead of Penn, Michigan, and NYU in career prospects.

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Re: New Princeton Review Rankings

Postby JamMasterJ » Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:31 pm

Well, I'm definitely not applying to Ave now

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Re: New Princeton Review Rankings

Postby rinkrat19 » Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:33 pm

CanadianWolf wrote:OP: Thanks for sharing this list. Are you able to share the top ten law schools for "Career Prospects" ?
Sure thing, and thank you for giving me SOMETHING to do at work. :P

In fact, I'll just do all the categories.
New game: Everyone post their favorite LOLWUT from these lists!

Career Prospects
Based on school reported data and student surveys. School data include: the average starting salaries of graduating students, the percent of students immediately employed upon graduation and the percent of these students who pass the bar exam the first time they take it. Student answers to survey questions on: how much the law program encourages practical experience; the opportunities for externships, internships and clerkships, and how prepared the students feel they will be to practice the law after graduating.
1. NU
2. Chicago
3. Columbia
4. Boalt
5. GULC
6. Penn
7. Vandy
8. GW
9. Michigan
10. NYU

Best Classroom Experience
Based on student answers to survey questions concerning their professors' teaching abilities, the balance of theory and practical skills in the curricula, the level of tolerance for differing opinions in class discussion, and their assessments of classroom facilities.
1. Stanford
2. UVA
3. Chicago
4. Duke
5. NU
6. BU
7. Michigan
8. UCLA
9. Loyola-LA
10. Vandy

Best Environment for Minority Students
Based on school reported data and student surveys. School data: the percent of the student body that is from a minority. Student answers to a survey question on whether all students receive equal treatment by fellow students and the faculty, regardless of ethnicity.
1. Hawaii
2. FIU
3. Southern
4. UDC
5. Santa Clara
6. Boalt
7. Loyola-LA
8. UNM
9. St. Thomas
10. USC

Best Professors
Based on student answers to survey questions concerning how good their professors are as teachers and how accessible they are outside the classroom.
1. BU
2. Duke
3. Chicago
4. Pepperdine
5. UVA
6. Stanford
7. Loyola-LA
8. St. Thomas
9. Wake Forest
10. Mercer

Best Quality of Life
Based on student answers to survey questions on: whether there is a strong sense of community at the school, how aesthetically pleasing the school is, the location of the school, the quality of social life at the school, the school's classroom facilities, and the library staff.
1. Duke
2. UVA
3. Chapman
4. Vandy
5. NU
6. Colorado
7. Memphis
8. Samford
9. Denver
10. Stanford

Most Chosen by Older Students

1. UNM
2. Seattle
3. Campbell
4. SUNY-Buffalo
5. UDC
6. South Dakota
7. William Mitchell
8. Maine
9. Idaho
10. New England

Most Competitive Students
Based on student answers to survey questions on: the number of hours they study outside of class each day, the number of hours they think their fellow students study outside of class each day, the degree of competitiveness among students at their school, and the average number of hours they sleep each night
1. Baylor
2. BYU
3. Cooley
4. Nova
5. Campbell
6. Regent
7. Whittier
8. Roger Williams
9. Southern
10. Hastings

Most Conservative Students
Based on student answers to a survey question concerning the political bent of the student body at large. The survey question was "If there is a prevailing political bent among students at your school, how would you characterize it?" Answer choices were: "Very Liberal, Liberal, Middle of the Road, Somewhat Conservative, Very Conservative."
1. Ave Maria
2. Regent
3. BYU
4. George Mason
5. Samford
6. Faulkner
7. ND
8. Idaho
9. Baylor
10. LSU

Most Diverse Faculty
Based on school reported data and student surveys. School data: the percent of the law school faculty that is from a minority. Student answers to a survey question on whether the faculty comprises a broadly diverse group of individuals.
1. Southern
2. FIU
3. UDC
4. Hawaii
5. UNM
6. Davis
7. Rutgers
8. GSU
9. Nova
10. Hastings

Most LIberal Students
Based on student answers to a survey question concerning the political bent of the student body at large. The survey question was "If there is a prevailing political bent among students at your school, how would you characterize it?" Answer choices were: "Very Liberal, Liberal, Middle of the Road, Somewhat Conservative, Very Conservative."
1. Northeastern
2. Vermont
3. NYU
4. Oregon
5. American
6. Boalt
7. Lewis & Clark
8. Davis
9. Brooklyn
10. Wisconsin

Toughest to Get Into
Based on school reported data. Factors include: average LSAT scores and undergraduate GPAs of entering 1L students, the percent of applicants accepted, and the percent of accepted applicants who enroll.
1. Yale
2. Harvard
3. Stanford
4. UVA
5. Boalt
6. Columbia
7. Penn
8. Chicago
9. NU
10. NYU
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Re: New Princeton Review Rankings

Postby mrtoren » Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:36 pm

People actually follow Princeton Review's rankings? I am in utter shock.

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Re: New Princeton Review Rankings

Postby rinkrat19 » Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:37 pm

mrtoren wrote:People actually follow Princeton Review's rankings? I am in utter shock.

Depends what you mean by 'follow.' Read for entertainment value? Yes. Base my school choice on them? No.

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Re: New Princeton Review Rankings

Postby JamMasterJ » Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:42 pm

Best profs
8. St. Thomas
lolwut?

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Re: New Princeton Review Rankings

Postby freestallion » Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:43 pm

rinkrat19 wrote:New game: Everyone post their favorite LOLWUT from these lists!

Career Prospects
Based on school reported data and student surveys. School data include: the average starting salaries of graduating students, the percent of students immediately employed upon graduation and the percent of these students who pass the bar exam the first time they take it. Student answers to survey questions on: how much the law program encourages practical experience; the opportunities for externships, internships and clerkships, and how prepared the students feel they will be to practice the law after graduating.
1. NU
2. Chicago
3. Columbia
4. Boalt
5. GULC
6. Penn
7. Vandy
8. GW
9. Michigan
10. NYU


lolwut? where's Harvard, Yale, and Stanford?

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Re: New Princeton Review Rankings

Postby Bosque » Wed Oct 12, 2011 4:49 pm

I'll just point out, Hawaii being at the top of the Environment for Minority Students list is HIGHLY misleading. I don't really want to turn this into a discussion of racial relations in the islands, but I am sure that has more to do with the relative racial percentages in the area than any actual tolerance toward all races.

Same goes for UNM actually.

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Re: New Princeton Review Rankings

Postby Samara » Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:24 am

Bosque wrote:I'll just point out, Hawaii being at the top of the Environment for Minority Students list is HIGHLY misleading. I don't really want to turn this into a discussion of racial relations in the islands, but I am sure that has more to do with the relative racial percentages in the area than any actual tolerance toward all races.

Same goes for UNM actually.

Yeah, I was going to say, Hawaii's numbers are almost certainly skewed highly by the native Hawaiian population. I don't know that it would be any better or worse of a school than the average for non-native Hawaiian/Pacific Islander (/Asian?) people.

Also, I love that 7 out the 10 most competitive schools are TTTTs. Cooley should add this to their rankings. They're #1 among TTTT schools!

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Re: New Princeton Review Rankings

Postby JamMasterJ » Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:27 am

Bosque wrote:I'll just point out, Hawaii being at the top of the Environment for Minority Students list is HIGHLY misleading. I don't really want to turn this into a discussion of racial relations in the islands, but I am sure that has more to do with the relative racial percentages in the area than any actual tolerance toward all races.

Same goes for UNM actually.

But it doesn't actually matter. good environment is good environment.

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Re: New Princeton Review Rankings

Postby Bildungsroman » Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:30 am

rinkrat19 wrote:Toughest to Get Into
1. Yale
2. Harvard
3. Stanford
4. UVA
5. Boalt
6. Columbia
7. Penn
8. Chicago
9. NU
10. NYU

lolololol at UVA, Penn, and Boalt being harder to get into than Chicago and NYU.

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Re: New Princeton Review Rankings

Postby beachbum » Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:33 am

rinkrat19 wrote:Best Quality of Life - Duke University


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Re: New Princeton Review Rankings

Postby DocHawkeye » Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:37 am

How is Liberty NOT among the most conservative schools?

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Re: New Princeton Review Rankings

Postby jawsthegreat » Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:45 am

Lol at duke number one qol. UVA and Texas say lol.

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Re: New Princeton Review Rankings

Postby Bronte » Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:53 am

rinkrat19 wrote:Career Prospects
Based on school reported data and student surveys. School data include: the average starting salaries of graduating students, the percent of students immediately employed upon graduation and the percent of these students who pass the bar exam the first time they take it. Student answers to survey questions on: how much the law program encourages practical experience; the opportunities for externships, internships and clerkships, and how prepared the students feel they will be to practice the law after graduating.
1. NU
2. Chicago
3. Columbia
4. Boalt
5. GULC
6. Penn
7. Vandy
8. GW
9. Michigan
10. NYU


No words can describe this.

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Re: New Princeton Review Rankings

Postby homestyle28 » Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:02 am

DocHawkeye wrote:How is Liberty NOT among the most conservative schools?


It's got the word "Lib" right there in the name, obviously full of liberals

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Re: New Princeton Review Rankings

Postby Bildungsroman » Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:20 am

jawsthegreat wrote:Lol at duke number one qol. UVA and Texas say lol.

Yeah, I'm definitely lolling at the idea that any frat school in the south could top the list for QOL.

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Re: New Princeton Review Rankings

Postby rinkrat19 » Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:24 am

Samara wrote:Also, I love that 7 out the 10 most competitive schools are TTTTs. Cooley should add this to their rankings. They're #1 among TTTT schools!
Makes you wonder wtf is going on at Baylor, BYU and Hastings that make their students as cutthroat as the mostly-doomed Cooley and Nova students.




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