job prospects at T6

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bball1997
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job prospects at T6

Postby bball1997 » Sun Jul 24, 2011 8:00 pm

I am looking into going to Chicago (have T6 numbers). I am a somewhat worried about the discussion in the other thread today regarding CCN students having difficulty obtaining big law jobs. I've seen some statistics about 60% of Chicago grads going to work for NLJ 250 firms. Are all of these the big law jobs which pay 160 (or 145 for smaller markets)? How many people in the 40% or so who don't work at these firms have self-selected out? I know many people forgo working at big law firms because they would rather take clerkships, work in public interest, etc. Are job prospects significantly better from YHS?

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Re: job prospects at T6

Postby lawgod » Sun Jul 24, 2011 8:02 pm

This board generally considers Chicago a good investment. Of course, if you think you have a better investment idea, by all means chase your dream.

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Re: job prospects at T6

Postby ndirish2010 » Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:30 pm

Chicago at sticker is generally considered worth it.

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Re: job prospects at T6

Postby thesealocust » Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:33 pm

bball1997 wrote:I am looking into going to Chicago (have T6 numbers). I am a somewhat worried about the discussion in the other thread today regarding CCN students having difficulty obtaining big law jobs. I've seen some statistics about 60% of Chicago grads going to work for NLJ 250 firms. Are all of these the big law jobs which pay 160 (or 145 for smaller markets)? How many people in the 40% or so who don't work at these firms have self-selected out? I know many people forgo working at big law firms because they would rather take clerkships, work in public interest, etc. Are job prospects significantly better from YHS?


Very few people self select out, most who don't get those jobs tried and failed. Most students, probably many more than just most even, will get what they want out of Chicago. Many, however, will graduate unemployed with crippling nondischargable debt.

Good luck :D

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Re: job prospects at T6

Postby Rock-N-Roll » Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:57 pm

I'm not trying to be a jerk to the OP but I have some issues with this thread.

First, I think realistically OP should get accepted to UChi before weighing its employment prospects, no?
Second, the way OP couches his or her question, i.e this thread, is extremely nubish. It's well known by now to anyone who uses this site that not everyone from a T6 who wants a biglaw job gets one. It's a sticky situation.

I think it is also safe for OP to just assume that if 70% of C and N students get biglaw (as posted on the earlier thread that OP mentions) then UChi probably does similarly well as it is a peer school. That's all there is to really know.

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Re: job prospects at T6

Postby bball1997 » Sun Jul 24, 2011 11:55 pm

Rock-N-Roll wrote:I'm not trying to be a jerk to the OP but I have some issues with this thread.

First, I think realistically OP should get accepted to UChi before weighing its employment prospects, no?
Second, the way OP couches his or her question, i.e this thread, is extremely nubish. It's well known by now to anyone who uses this site that not everyone from a T6 who wants a biglaw job gets one. It's a sticky situation.

I think it is also safe for OP to just assume that if 70% of C and N students get biglaw (as posted on the earlier thread that OP mentions) then UChi probably does similarly well as it is a peer school. That's all there is to really know.


I'm not really sure why you feel the need to be so combative.

True, I have not been accepted, but my numbers are 3.8/174. I'm above both medians and the 174 is two points above the 75th percentile. Obviously this doesn't guarantee admission, but FWIW I'm an admit according to LSP.

With regards to the other issue of actual employment prospects (which is what I'm wanting to learn more about), I was mostly concerned with talk from NYU grads/students saying they felt you had to be top 1/3 to guarantee yourself a job and a number of their friends were striking out if they were about median (especially if they were straight from undergrad which I will be). I follow TLS a lot (even if I don't post frequently), and understand the consensus here is that being from CCN doesn't guarantee big law. I'm just trying to gauge how many people can't get big law from CCN.

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Re: job prospects at T6

Postby Rock-N-Roll » Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:04 am

bball1997 wrote:
Rock-N-Roll wrote:I'm not trying to be a jerk to the OP but I have some issues with this thread.

First, I think realistically OP should get accepted to UChi before weighing its employment prospects, no?
Second, the way OP couches his or her question, i.e this thread, is extremely nubish. It's well known by now to anyone who uses this site that not everyone from a T6 who wants a biglaw job gets one. It's a sticky situation.

I think it is also safe for OP to just assume that if 70% of C and N students get biglaw (as posted on the earlier thread that OP mentions) then UChi probably does similarly well as it is a peer school. That's all there is to really know.


I'm not really sure why you feel the need to be so combative.

True, I have not been accepted, but my numbers are 3.8/174. I'm above both medians and the 174 is two points above the 75th percentile. Obviously this doesn't guarantee admission, but FWIW I'm an admit according to LSP.

With regards to the other issue of actual employment prospects (which is what I'm wanting to learn more about), I was mostly concerned with talk from NYU grads/students saying they felt you had to be top 1/3 to guarantee yourself a job and a number of their friends were striking out if they were about median (especially if they were straight from undergrad which I will be). I follow TLS a lot (even if I don't post frequently), and understand the consensus here is that being from CCN doesn't guarantee big law. I'm just trying to gauge how many people can't get big law from CCN.


Wasn't trying to start a fight. Your numbers are great, and you should be confident, but I just bristle at hypothetical acceptance threads. It strikes me as a kind of unintentional trolling because everything that follows is based on nothing i.e. the hypothetical.

I'm also frustrated that posters come back again and again with these types of school specific employment data questions, when the data just isn't widely available. I wish it was and we all knew the exact number of CCN or MVP or whatever school's students that wanted biglaw and couldn't get it, but the schools just don't publish that data.

And FWIW, if someone on TLS tells you that they do have that data and quote you some number, you have to wonder where they got that information from.

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Re: job prospects at T6

Postby Lawquacious » Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:49 am

bball1997 wrote:my numbers are 3.8/174.


I think those numbers should give you a reasonable shot at H and S, and I imagine if you do end up at Chicago that it may not be at full price.




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