University of Arizona (In-state sticker) Still bad decision?

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Re: University of Arizona (In-state sticker) Still bad decision?

Postby hangtransferloose » Thu Jul 28, 2011 7:56 pm

I know a few top 10% types that struck out at OCI (biglaw, midlaw, or otherwise).

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Re: University of Arizona (In-state sticker) Still bad decision?

Postby Blessedassurance » Thu Jul 28, 2011 8:19 pm

Veyron wrote: There is evidence to suggest that combined LSAT/GPA corelate with class rank. Going in house is something that you can't typically do untill you have a few years of firm experience. Tucson is cheap but lets be real, you can't live there on five hundred dollars a month - it isn't Ghana. Do you want to blow any more smoke?


I think there are problems with the underlined statement. At the very least, the correlation, if any, should be highly qualified. GPA for one can be influenced by a number of factors. Weakness of major, type of undergrad etc. The LSAT at best, only correlates, if at all, to a fraction of one's chances of success. Furthermore, the majority of the entering class would have numbers that fall within a certain, relatively close range, making any predictions or correlations difficult.

Also, why Ghana man? Couldn't you have used Guymon, Oklahoma or something?

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Re: University of Arizona (In-state sticker) Still bad decision?

Postby Veyron » Thu Jul 28, 2011 8:22 pm

Blessedassurance wrote:
Veyron wrote: There is evidence to suggest that combined LSAT/GPA corelate with class rank. Going in house is something that you can't typically do untill you have a few years of firm experience. Tucson is cheap but lets be real, you can't live there on five hundred dollars a month - it isn't Ghana. Do you want to blow any more smoke?


I think there are problems with the underlined statement. At the very least, the correlation, if any, should be highly qualified. GPA for one can be influenced by a number of factors. Weakness of major, type of undergrad etc. The LSAT at best, only correlates, if at all, to a fraction of one's chances of success. Furthermore, the majority of the entering class would have numbers that fall within a certain, relatively close range, making any predictions or correlations difficult.

Also, why Ghana man? Couldn't you have used Guymon, Oklahoma or something?


I mean, there have been studies done on it which establish the contentions general truth. That being said, yes it varies by school. A guy with a 3.2 at MIT and a 166 will probably outperform his expected performance, it isn't a perfect correlation by any means.

Why not Ghana? You got some problem with Ghana bro?

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Re: University of Arizona (In-state sticker) Still bad decision?

Postby Blessedassurance » Thu Jul 28, 2011 8:35 pm

Veyron wrote: Why not Ghana? You got some problem with Ghana bro?


No, I love Ghana. There are more realistic comparisons right here in the United States. Ghana's extreme.

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Re: University of Arizona (In-state sticker) Still bad decision?

Postby puravidamae » Thu Jul 28, 2011 9:23 pm

hangtransferloose wrote:I know a few top 10% types that struck out at OCI (biglaw, midlaw, or otherwise).


From the UofA or a different school? These people are unemployed still or have found jobs? Sounds redic to get those grades and not be able to land a job.

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Re: University of Arizona (In-state sticker) Still bad decision?

Postby hangtransferloose » Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:53 pm

puravidamae wrote:
hangtransferloose wrote:I know a few top 10% types that struck out at OCI (biglaw, midlaw, or otherwise).


From the UofA or a different school? These people are unemployed still or have found jobs? Sounds redic to get those grades and not be able to land a job.


Both U of A and ASU.

You realize the "recession" is the new normal right?

There are basically 40 SA positions available in AZ - barely enough room to hire all of the top 10% students from UA/ASU. Then you add students from t20 schools, and misc. t1/t2 schools with ties to AZ and it's not that redic at all.

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Re: University of Arizona (In-state sticker) Still bad decision?

Postby puravidamae » Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:35 am

hangtransferloose wrote:
puravidamae wrote:
hangtransferloose wrote:I know a few top 10% types that struck out at OCI (biglaw, midlaw, or otherwise).


From the UofA or a different school? These people are unemployed still or have found jobs? Sounds redic to get those grades and not be able to land a job.


Both U of A and ASU.

You realize the "recession" is the new normal right?

There are basically 40 SA positions available in AZ - barely enough room to hire all of the top 10% students from UA/ASU. Then you add students from t20 schools, and misc. t1/t2 schools with ties to AZ and it's not that redic at all.


Yeah I get all that, but I asked you if these people you know that were in the top 10% are still unemployed or have they found jobs outside of OCI. If they are unemployed, I think it is redic.

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Re: University of Arizona (In-state sticker) Still bad decision?

Postby hangtransferloose » Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:57 am

puravidamae wrote:
hangtransferloose wrote:
puravidamae wrote:
hangtransferloose wrote:I know a few top 10% types that struck out at OCI (biglaw, midlaw, or otherwise).


From the UofA or a different school? These people are unemployed still or have found jobs? Sounds redic to get those grades and not be able to land a job.


Both U of A and ASU.

You realize the "recession" is the new normal right?

There are basically 40 SA positions available in AZ - barely enough room to hire all of the top 10% students from UA/ASU. Then you add students from t20 schools, and misc. t1/t2 schools with ties to AZ and it's not that redic at all.


Yeah I get all that, but I asked you if these people you know that were in the top 10% are still unemployed or have they found jobs outside of OCI. If they are unemployed, I think it is redic.


The students I am familiar with have yet to graduate.

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Look at the red and grey areas (not for the faint of heart).

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Re: University of Arizona (In-state sticker) Still bad decision?

Postby Veyron » Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:59 am

puravidamae wrote:
hangtransferloose wrote:
puravidamae wrote:
hangtransferloose wrote:I know a few top 10% types that struck out at OCI (biglaw, midlaw, or otherwise).


From the UofA or a different school? These people are unemployed still or have found jobs? Sounds redic to get those grades and not be able to land a job.


Both U of A and ASU.

You realize the "recession" is the new normal right?

There are basically 40 SA positions available in AZ - barely enough room to hire all of the top 10% students from UA/ASU. Then you add students from t20 schools, and misc. t1/t2 schools with ties to AZ and it's not that redic at all.


Yeah I get all that, but I asked you if these people you know that were in the top 10% are still unemployed or have they found jobs outside of OCI. If they are unemployed, I think it is redic.


ITE is redic.

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Re: University of Arizona (In-state sticker) Still bad decision?

Postby puravidamae » Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:30 pm

[/quote]The students I am familiar with have yet to graduate.[/quote]


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I highly doubt that the students you are familiar with will not be able to secure legit jobs in AZ after they graduate, granted they are actually in the top 10%. Thanks for the link, but I have seen LST before.

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Re: University of Arizona (In-state sticker) Still bad decision?

Postby Veyron » Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:32 pm

ITT: 0L takes issue with reality

In three years: Reality hits back.

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Re: University of Arizona (In-state sticker) Still bad decision?

Postby puravidamae » Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:00 pm

Veyron wrote:ITT: 0L takes issue with reality

In three years: Reality hits back.


Na, in 3 years the economy is going to be ALL better! Didn't you hear?




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