Good schools for Judicial clerkship/externship

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Good schools for Judicial clerkship/externship

Postby mattviphky » Fri Jun 03, 2011 11:31 am

Beyond Yale, of course

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Re: Good schools for Judicial clerkship/externship

Postby D-ROCCA » Fri Jun 03, 2011 11:33 am

After Yale I'd probably say Harvard and Stanford, and then probably like Columbia, Chicago, NYU, followed by Michigan, Virginia, Penn, Berkley....oh wait

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Re: Good schools for Judicial clerkship/externship

Postby Moxie » Fri Jun 03, 2011 11:37 am

Yale, Harvard, Stanford, Chicago, then the rest of the T14. Although Duke had particularly good clerkship placement the past few years (adjusted for class size).

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Re: Good schools for Judicial clerkship/externship

Postby mattviphky » Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:11 pm

Well it might also just be related to student interests. I hear on these forums a lot about Chicago being good for academia, for example. I was looking through school profiles and Washington and Lee had a fairly large placement for judicial clerkships, as did Notre Dame...so the ranking are not quite indicative of a school that sends a lot of people into this field.

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Re: Good schools for Judicial clerkship/externship

Postby xcountryjunkie » Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:16 pm

Everyone seems to be reading this as "good schools for judicial clerkships," which is fairly black and white.

"Good schools for judicial externships" are very different (especially in semester). Georgetown/GW would shoot up the rankings because of their DC location. Schools like Duke and Cornell may be higher ranked, but it's not like they have tons of local courts in which you can extern.

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Re: Good schools for Judicial clerkship/externship

Postby D-ROCCA » Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:19 pm

xcountryjunkie wrote:Everyone seems to be reading this as "good schools for judicial clerkships," which is fairly black and white.

"Good schools for judicial externships" are very different (especially in semester). Georgetown/GW would shoot up the rankings because of their DC location. Schools like Duke and Cornell may be higher ranked, but it's not like they have tons of local courts in which you can extern.


Why would being in DC give you better prospects at externships? Seems like it would be the opposite actually.

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Re: Good schools for Judicial clerkship/externship

Postby xyzbca » Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:40 pm

D-ROCCA wrote:
xcountryjunkie wrote:Everyone seems to be reading this as "good schools for judicial clerkships," which is fairly black and white.

"Good schools for judicial externships" are very different (especially in semester). Georgetown/GW would shoot up the rankings because of their DC location. Schools like Duke and Cornell may be higher ranked, but it's not like they have tons of local courts in which you can extern.


Why would being in DC give you better prospects at externships? Seems like it would be the opposite actually.


Read what xcountry said. It is pretty self-explanatory.

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Re: Good schools for Judicial clerkship/externship

Postby xcountryjunkie » Fri Jun 03, 2011 2:42 pm

D-ROCCA wrote:
xcountryjunkie wrote:Everyone seems to be reading this as "good schools for judicial clerkships," which is fairly black and white.

"Good schools for judicial externships" are very different (especially in semester). Georgetown/GW would shoot up the rankings because of their DC location. Schools like Duke and Cornell may be higher ranked, but it's not like they have tons of local courts in which you can extern.


Why would being in DC give you better prospects at externships? Seems like it would be the opposite actually.


Think of all the different courts that are located in DC. Supreme Court, Court of Appeals - DC Circuit, Federal District Court, Court of Fed Claims, all the local DC courts, etc. The list could go on and on.

How many courts do you think are located in Ithaca? Durham? Ann Arbor?

In semester, DC law students will be competing (for the most part) only with other DC law students. That means you have a lot of options and less competition. During the summer, obviously, is a whole different ball game.

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Re: Good schools for Judicial clerkship/externship

Postby mattviphky » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:18 am

That's really interesting, I never though about opportunities during the semester for local schools

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Re: Good schools for Judicial clerkship/externship

Postby queenlizzie13 » Sat Jun 04, 2011 3:59 pm

Also, I know CU (Colorado) for example places roughly around 16% of their students in judicial clerkships according to their statistics on their website. So there are some regional schools that definitely place well in clerkships in their respective regions.

The US Court of Appeals, 10th Circuit is in is located in Denver which might help explain the high percentage of grads who do clerkships. So also look at schools with the US Court of Appeals nearby as well.

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Re: Good schools for Judicial clerkship/externship

Postby Blindmelon » Sat Jun 04, 2011 5:11 pm

queenlizzie13 wrote:Also, I know CU (Colorado) for example places roughly around 16% of their students in judicial clerkships according to their statistics on their website. So there are some regional schools that definitely place well in clerkships in their respective regions.

The US Court of Appeals, 10th Circuit is in is located in Denver which might help explain the high percentage of grads who do clerkships. So also look at schools with the US Court of Appeals nearby as well.


Clerking =/= externing and so proximity to a circuit court means nill. Suffolk and Northeast are pretty close to the 1st Circuit, yet good luck finding any school outside of H/Y/C clerking for the 1st (of course there are exceptions).

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Re: Good schools for Judicial clerkship/externship

Postby mattviphky » Sun Jun 05, 2011 8:39 pm

i thought externship would be a very nice way to get your foot in the door and get in good with a judge, and help lead to a clerkship. I guess the

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Re: Good schools for Judicial clerkship/externship

Postby dood » Sun Jun 05, 2011 8:43 pm

mattviphky wrote:i thought externship would be a very nice way to get your foot in the door and get in good with a judge, and help lead to a clerkship. I guess the


most art iii judges dont hire former externs

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Re: Good schools for Judicial clerkship/externship

Postby xyzbca » Sun Jun 05, 2011 11:32 pm

dood wrote:
mattviphky wrote:i thought externship would be a very nice way to get your foot in the door and get in good with a judge, and help lead to a clerkship. I guess the


most art iii judges dont hire former externs


This is correct. Some judges go so far as to explicitly say so in job postings for externs.




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