chimp wrote: Fark-o-vision wrote:
You clearly haven't been there then.
I'll admit the list is different for boys and girls. Berkeley is fine and East Palo Alto isn't a big deal. There is certainly an element to both Berkeley and Oakland, and places you may not want to be, but the cities are by and large very safe places
. I'm not sure if Oakland's crime rates are still astronomical or not (I'm just talking from spending good time in the area, like two or three months a year) but I can say that, regardless of how high it is, it is very localized.
East Palo Alto is different, but no worse than most of the suburbs around LA or even Anaheim. Also, no reason to go to East Palo Alto if you don't want and, again, whatever crime there is seems to stay there.
You are clearly very misinformed. Also, did I ever say that there is a reason to go there? It is not a safe area by any means. Also, Oakland was named one of the top ten dangerous cities in 2010. I am not one of these people that think every place is ghetto or anything, but these are indisputable facts.
I still don't think you've ever really been to the bay.
Or, you're one of those intolerable kids who thinks everywhere outside of three or four neighborhoods is slum. I know you just said you weren't that guy, but the fact that you felt the need to bring it up at all sort of makes me think it.
I said Oakland might still be fairly dangerous, and that I was unfamiliar with the data, but it is also fairly contained to a few of the worst spots. As a guy you can move about Oakland fairly freely without ever feeling uncomfortable.
Also, I've yet to see a bad neighborhood in Berkeley, although I'm sure there are some. The area around the college is really nice.