Is Cornell worth sticker?

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Is Cornell worth sticker if it's your only T14 option?

Yes
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76%
No
39
24%
 
Total votes: 160

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Is Cornell worth sticker?

Postby CornellLawOrBust » Wed May 11, 2011 10:24 pm

If it's your only T14 option and you want NYC? Yes or no.

I edited this to note that I technically do have another T14 option -- but it's UT, though with $76,500...
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Re: Is Cornell worth sticker?

Postby Lawquacious » Wed May 11, 2011 10:30 pm

Lol, I'm thinking your first two poll answers came in as "no" largely based on sarcasm (perhaps in part because your screenname includes Cornell).

Yeah, Cornell can definitely be worth sticker. Among other things, Cornell had the second-highest NLJ stats last year overall if I remember correctly. If people are seriously arguing it is categorically not worth sticker, I'd like to know why. Obviously, if you have the option to go a T6 or to Y / H/ S at sticker, or to go to some other T14ish school with money, then it may not be worth it; but if it is where you want to go and it is your best overall option then I think it is a pretty hard sell to argue categorically that it isn't worth it. HTH

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Re: Is Cornell worth sticker?

Postby jtemp320 » Wed May 11, 2011 10:33 pm

Lawquacious wrote:Lol, I'm thinking your first two poll answers came in as "no" largely based on sarcasm (perhaps in part because your screenname includes Cornell).

Yeah, Cornell can definitely be worth sticker. Among other things, Cornell had the second-highest NLJ stats last year overall if I remember correctly. If people are seriously arguing it is categorically not worth sticker, I'd like to know why. Obviously, if you have the option to go a T6 or to Y / H/ S at sticker, or to go to some other T14ish school with money, then it may not be worth it; but if it is where you want to go and it is your best overall option then I think it is a pretty hard sell to argue categorically that it isn't worth it. HTH


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Re: Is Cornell worth sticker?

Postby flexityflex86 » Wed May 11, 2011 10:38 pm

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Re: Is Cornell worth sticker?

Postby kaiser » Wed May 11, 2011 10:40 pm

Assume one was a 1L and looking to transfer from a T30 that places fairly well into NYC, but its not the primary market it places into. Would it be better to finish 1L year around top 10-15% and just try OCI at current T30 and shoot for NYC, or is Cornell THAT much better such that it would be worth it to try and transfer and give up the ranking and possible law review spot at current school? Really want to end up in NYC. Debt from current school given savings and everything else would be about 25K, whereas Cornell would be about 90K. Thoughts?
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Re: Is Cornell worth sticker?

Postby aliarrow » Wed May 11, 2011 10:40 pm

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Re: Is Cornell worth sticker?

Postby sanetruth » Wed May 11, 2011 10:44 pm

aliarrow wrote:IBT0LsACCEPTEDTOMVPBSAYCORNELLISNOTWORTHSTICKER

A very easy to detect pattern among TLS 0Ls - the schools in the tier right below your own is never worth sticker.
HYS 0L -> Argues CCN NOT worth sticker
CCN -> MVPB
MVPB -> NDC
NDC -> G, UT, UCLA, USC
etc...

All part of the never ending dick slinging contest that is TLS


There is someone in particular who has been doing this in every possible thread recently, who shall remain unnamed, and it's annoying as hell. So...IBthatguy.

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Re: Is Cornell worth sticker?

Postby Arbiter213 » Wed May 11, 2011 10:45 pm

aliarrow wrote:IBT0LsACCEPTEDTOMVPBSAYCORNELLISNOTWORTHSTICKER

A very easy to detect pattern among TLS 0Ls - the schools in the tier right below your own is never worth sticker.
HYS 0L -> Argues CCN NOT worth sticker
CCN -> MVPB
MVPB -> NDC
NDC -> G, UT, UCLA, USC
etc...

All part of the never ending dick slinging contest that is TLS


More likely, they turned down money (or more money) at those schools when they chose the one they're at, and their opinion reflects the actual reasoning they went through, but they fail to generalize properly outside their own decision.

I didn't think it would be, but I have a hard time believing any school but HYS are worth sticker. Yay scholarships.

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Re: Is Cornell worth sticker?

Postby aliarrow » Wed May 11, 2011 10:48 pm

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Re: Is Cornell worth sticker?

Postby glitched » Wed May 11, 2011 10:48 pm

sanetruth wrote:
aliarrow wrote:IBT0LsACCEPTEDTOMVPBSAYCORNELLISNOTWORTHSTICKER

A very easy to detect pattern among TLS 0Ls - the schools in the tier right below your own is never worth sticker.
HYS 0L -> Argues CCN NOT worth sticker
CCN -> MVPB
MVPB -> NDC
NDC -> G, UT, UCLA, USC
etc...

All part of the never ending dick slinging contest that is TLS


There is someone in particular who has been doing this in every possible thread recently, who shall remain unnamed, and it's annoying as hell. So...IBthatguy.


who is that guy?

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Re: Is Cornell worth sticker?

Postby spacepenguin » Wed May 11, 2011 10:51 pm

aliarrow wrote:Perspective is a funny thing.

Back when I was PTing 175s and figured I was a lock at CCN I kept thinking it would be insane to go to anything below T10 at sticker, especially something as expensive as Cornell.

Now that I got my 167, I'm pretty happy with BU at sticker, Cornell at sticker would be even better.

No matter what you think, your mind does these things automatically as your perspective changes based on your own relative position and personal interest.



Not to be an ass, and I'm sure you've already heard this....

But retake?

Edit: OP, Cornell is totally worth sticker. It places extremely well; and while a risky, it's still a solid investment.

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Re: Is Cornell worth sticker?

Postby Patriot1208 » Wed May 11, 2011 10:56 pm

Arbiter213 wrote:
aliarrow wrote:IBT0LsACCEPTEDTOMVPBSAYCORNELLISNOTWORTHSTICKER

A very easy to detect pattern among TLS 0Ls - the schools in the tier right below your own is never worth sticker.
HYS 0L -> Argues CCN NOT worth sticker
CCN -> MVPB
MVPB -> NDC
NDC -> G, UT, UCLA, USC
etc...

All part of the never ending dick slinging contest that is TLS


More likely, they turned down money (or more money) at those schools when they chose the one they're at, and their opinion reflects the actual reasoning they went through, but they fail to generalize properly outside their own decision.

I didn't think it would be, but I have a hard time believing any school but HYS are worth sticker. Yay scholarships.



TBF, if you took an estimated expected value of the law degree from Cornell over a lifetime the 200k+interest would look like not that big of a deal.

The problem is that some students aren't going to meet that expectation, even if a majority will.

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Re: Is Cornell worth sticker?

Postby mblueyahoo! » Wed May 11, 2011 11:00 pm

Cornell was the first school to get back to me and I have to say, if not for Michigan, I would have taken sticker at Cornell in a heartbeat.

It's expensive, but, especially if you're gunning for NYC biglaw, it's worth it.

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Re: Is Cornell worth sticker?

Postby aliarrow » Wed May 11, 2011 11:02 pm

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Re: Is Cornell worth sticker?

Postby buckilaw » Wed May 11, 2011 11:05 pm

mblueyahoo! wrote:Cornell was the first school to get back to me and I have to say, if not for Michigan, I would have taken sticker at Cornell in a heartbeat.

It's expensive, but, especially if you're gunning for NYC biglaw, it's worth it.


Who did you bribe at Cornell to get a prompt response?

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Re: Is Cornell worth sticker?

Postby mblueyahoo! » Wed May 11, 2011 11:09 pm

buckilaw wrote:
mblueyahoo! wrote:Cornell was the first school to get back to me and I have to say, if not for Michigan, I would have taken sticker at Cornell in a heartbeat.

It's expensive, but, especially if you're gunning for NYC biglaw, it's worth it.


Who did you bribe at Cornell to get a prompt response?


bought every admissions staffer a year long bottomless coffee jug at collegetown bagels. bribery win.

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Re: Is Cornell worth sticker?

Postby aliarrow » Wed May 11, 2011 11:10 pm

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Re: Is Cornell worth sticker?

Postby mblueyahoo! » Wed May 11, 2011 11:12 pm

aliarrow wrote:** Remembers I'm still on the Cornell Waitlist **

Cornell at sticker is an AWFUL idea ITE. Enjoy debt and homelessness.


don't forget being on top of a hill when its balls cold.

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Re: Is Cornell worth sticker?

Postby Sandro » Wed May 11, 2011 11:30 pm

I think its even funnier when certain posters, who were all set to go to a certain school, go back and trash that school because they got into a better school.

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Re: Is Cornell worth sticker?

Postby mblueyahoo! » Wed May 11, 2011 11:32 pm

Sandro wrote:I think its even funnier when certain posters, who were all set to go to a certain school, go back and trash that school because they got into a better school.


This is, indeed, quite an amusing phenomena.

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Re: Is Cornell worth sticker?

Postby Younger Abstention » Thu May 12, 2011 1:54 am

If you're ok with being a doc review slave for years in order to pay off your debt, sure, it will probably get you to that level.

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Re: Is Cornell worth sticker?

Postby stylishlaw » Thu May 12, 2011 2:07 am

Might not be depending on acceptances to UCLA/Texas/Vandy/USC and the amount of $$ at each. But generally, yes I would go there in a heartbeat.

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Re: Is Cornell worth sticker?

Postby Grizz » Thu May 12, 2011 2:10 am

I wouldn't.

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Re: Is Cornell worth sticker?

Postby beachbum » Thu May 12, 2011 2:21 am

On paper: sure; it's a great school with solid job prospects. In practice: Ithaca.

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Re: Is Cornell worth sticker?

Postby mblueyahoo! » Thu May 12, 2011 2:27 am

beachbum wrote:On paper: sure; it's a great school with solid job prospects. In practice: Ithaca.


Sure, but....

"blah blah." In practice: Durham.




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