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Re: UCLA ($) vs. Cornell

Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 10:25 pm
by justhockey31
60+% in 2007 (rank 6)
60+% in 2008 (rank 7)
42% in 2009 (rank 14) --- That one is your anomaly
58% in 2010 (rank 2)[/quote]
Like I said, Post-recession, which means after 2008. Everyone knows the 58% in 2010 was an anomaly and it is clear that it will be back in the 40s again this year. In fact, the 41.5% placement it saw in 2009 was behind GULC. Further, this is only talking about NLJ250 placement numbers. Cornell's article III clerkship placement is even more dismal for the T14. Cornell barely ranked in the top-25 for that.
http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandr ... s-rankings[/quote]

It would look like EVERYONE knows that the 58% in 2010 was very normal for Cornell post-recession and the stats show no reason to think Cornell will not continue to place 50-60+%

Re: UCLA ($) vs. Cornell

Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 10:26 pm
by Curry
dpk711 wrote:
Curry wrote:So your conclusion is based off a sample size of 2. Awesome.

Let's not be enemies please. I support the same NBA player.

We can both love Kobe. Doesn't mean that I should tolerate wrong information.

Re: UCLA ($) vs. Cornell

Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 10:34 pm
by dpk711
At least anecdotally, Cornell's biglaw placement in 2011 is around 40%.
Of course though, biglaw doesn't necessarily equate to NLJ250, but it does show that Cornell's employment prospects aren't exactly dandelions and lollipops.
http://abovethelaw.com/2010/07/biglaw-e ... -a-debate/

Re: UCLA ($) vs. Cornell

Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 10:53 pm
by glewz
dpk711 wrote:
glewz wrote:
dpk711 wrote:If this year's NLJ250 numbers are what you are referring to then remember those stats are generally regarded as an anomaly. Everyone knows that Cornell's NLJ250 numbers have fluctuated between 40-45% in the post-recession era. These numbers are only marginally better than those of GULC's.


Don't think you know what you're talking about. Don't pull #s out of a$$.

60+% in 2007 (rank 6)
60+% in 2008 (rank 7)
42% in 2009 (rank 14)
58% in 2010 (rank 2)

Like I said, Post-recession, which means after 2008. Everyone knows the 58% in 2010 was an anomaly and it is clear that it will be back in the 40s again this year. In fact, the 41.5% placement it saw in 2009 was behind GULC. Further, this is only talking about NLJ250 placement numbers. Cornell's article III clerkship placement is even more dismal for the T14. Cornell barely ranked in the top-25 for that.
http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandr ... s-rankings


"It is clear that it will be back in the 40s again this year."

Again, don't pull #s out of a$$. 0L wisdom cannot predict this year's legal market.

And Art III placement differences are negligible. You're talking about a margin of 1-2%. Also, the fact that U Arizona is #5, U Washington (Seattle) is #4 tells me that the rankings you've cited are pretty worthless.


Also a Kobe fan here, but "Placement/job prospects for Cornell is second worst in the T14" makes no sense.

Re: UCLA ($) vs. Cornell

Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 11:33 pm
by whymeohgodno
Not to mention how no one is talking about other T14 school's placement for the class of 2011. Although Cornell probably placed around 40-45% no one knows how other T14 schools placed. Let's look at things in perspective.

Also LOL @ people drawing conclusions from a sample size of 2. If anything past history should matter more. The economy might have tanked but school's placement powers, especially near the top have stayed similar relative to each other. Cornell has placed similar or better to schools like MVPDN before ITE. They still place similar ITE.