Why does Princeton Review 2011 rate Cornell so low

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Why does Princeton Review 2011 rate Cornell so low

Postby Emma1 » Wed Apr 20, 2011 4:53 pm

Why does Princeton Review rate Cornell's academic category so low. Just got 2011 Best 172 Law Schools and Cornell academics category is rated 63, professor interesting rating is rated a 61 and professor accesible rating is also a 61. What is going on here?
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Re: Why does Princeton Review 2011 rank Cornell so low

Postby FiveSermon » Wed Apr 20, 2011 4:54 pm

Does it matter?

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Re: Why does Princeton Review 2011 rank Cornell so low

Postby hipstermafia » Wed Apr 20, 2011 4:54 pm

The more serious question is: why does princeton review rank?

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Re: Why does Princeton Review 2011 rank Cornell so low

Postby bk1 » Wed Apr 20, 2011 4:55 pm

hipstermafia wrote:The more serious question is: why does princeton review rank?


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Re: Why does Princeton Review 2011 rank Cornell so low

Postby Emma1 » Wed Apr 20, 2011 5:04 pm

FiveSermon wrote:Does it matter?


Yes it does. i would like to know why so low? Other peer law schools are rated in the 90's.
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Re: Why does Princeton Review 2011 rank Cornell so low

Postby Emma1 » Wed Apr 20, 2011 5:08 pm

Why does US News rank? Rankings are rankings but I thought someone would know from Cornell. I looked back at a 2007 edition and their rating in the academic cetegory was 83 with a 74 profs interesting rating and an 84 profs accessible rating

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Re: Why does Princeton Review 2011 rank Cornell so low

Postby Cade McNown » Wed Apr 20, 2011 5:11 pm

As Professor suicide increases, Professor availability decreases.

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Re: Why does Princeton Review 2011 rank Cornell so low

Postby FiveSermon » Wed Apr 20, 2011 5:12 pm

Cade McNown wrote:As Professor suicide increases, Professor availability decreases.


But you also have to account for student suicides.

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Re: Why does Princeton Review 2011 rate Cornell so low

Postby Emma1 » Wed Apr 20, 2011 5:14 pm

Maybe students throwing themselves in the gorges because the professors are so boring affects their academic rating.

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Re: Why does Princeton Review 2011 rank Cornell so low

Postby woeisme » Wed Apr 20, 2011 6:11 pm

Editors got dinged. :mrgreen:

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Re: Why does Princeton Review 2011 rate Cornell so low

Postby Patriot1208 » Wed Apr 20, 2011 6:57 pm

Academics category? Wtf does that even rank?

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Re: Why does Princeton Review 2011 rate Cornell so low

Postby Emma1 » Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:05 pm

Patriot1208 wrote:Academics category? Wtf does that even rank?


It is a rating not a ranking.

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Re: Why does Princeton Review 2011 rate Cornell so low

Postby flexityflex86 » Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:09 pm

Who is Princeton Review to rank anyone?

Where does Princeton Review rank on tutoring? I do LSAT tutoring, and outsource other tutors, and while my sample size only reflects several 100 former Princeton students, not one of them improved. They rank poorer than Kaplan, Testmasters, all others from my limited sample size.

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Re: Why does Princeton Review 2011 rate Cornell so low

Postby woeisme » Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:17 pm

Look at their ranking methodology. It's probably based on a very small sample size. Or maybe Cornell refused to participate. In any case, Princeton Review is not authoritative in the least on this. They just want money. In fact, perhaps they did some ludicrous rankings so that people like you would purchase their rankings (or as you emphasize "ratings")? You should feel free to disregard their evaluations entirely. It's like Cooley's rankings.

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Re: Why does Princeton Review 2011 rate Cornell so low

Postby Patriot1208 » Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:59 pm

Emma1 wrote:
Patriot1208 wrote:Academics category? Wtf does that even rank?


It is a rating not a ranking.


I'm assuming they give them a rating so to rank the schools?

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Re: Why does Princeton Review 2011 rate Cornell so low

Postby flexityflex86 » Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:04 pm

In all honesty, I thought of doing law school rankings just to stream traffic to my website to get more clientele, but ultimately decided I was not qualified to rank law schools, and therefore this would be a shady business practice. As someone who worked for some large tutoring companies, I can assure you large tutoring companies have no problems behaving shady. When I left a large tutoring company I worked for to work on my own, this company actually hired or used someone else to post phony reviews attacking personal things about my character that were only removed when i wrote a letter promising legal action directly to the company. So I would hardly be surprised if these companies write poorly researched law school rankings unfortunate idiots rely on.

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Re: Why does Princeton Review 2011 rate Cornell so low

Postby Emma1 » Wed Apr 20, 2011 10:02 pm

Patriot1208 wrote:
Emma1 wrote:
Patriot1208 wrote:Academics category? Wtf does that even rank?


It is a rating not a ranking.


I'm assuming they give them a rating so to rank the schools?


They dont rank schools. It is the 172 best law schools for 2011. Same setup for the most part as their book for undergrad. It has alot of information about each of the schools including what advanced and combined degrees are offered, statistical information on the student body, admissions, employment and financial stats, and 1 and1/2 page description of each school. The low score for professors at Cornell is unusual. It is suppose to be based on the opinions of law students. Was looking to see what Cornell students thought about this rating.

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Re: Why does Princeton Review 2011 rate Cornell so low

Postby woeisme » Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:11 pm

OP's a Princeton Review employee!

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Re: Why does Princeton Review 2011 rate Cornell so low

Postby Aberzombie1892 » Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:20 pm

Emma1 wrote:Why does Princeton Review rate Cornell's academic category so low. Just got 2011 Best 172 Law Schools and Cornell academics category is rated 63, professor interesting rating is rated a 61 and professor accesible rating is also a 61. What is going on here?


I'm sure the methodology is somewhere nearby.

But think about it. Which students are more likely to respond to a pointless survey?

1. Students who loved Cornell in general
2. Students who may not have had the experience they wanted

Now if this was an employment survey, it would be the other way around.

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Re: Why does Princeton Review 2011 rate Cornell so low

Postby AreJay711 » Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:23 pm

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Re: Why does Princeton Review 2011 rate Cornell so low

Postby hipstermafia » Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:05 am

LOL this thread is lulz




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