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Re: Big Law

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:34 pm
by Slevin Kelevra 2011
AMLaw100 + V100 = Biglaw.


NLJ250 is probably the closest published list to this and not a bad definition, but it does include firms that aren't AMLaw100 or V100 which could be considered Midlaw (Brown Rudnick, Foley Hoag, Akerman Sentertift, Arent Fox, etc.).

Re: Big Law

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:20 pm
by buckilaw
Can you expect to stay in biglaw longer in a secondary market than you would in NYC? All biglaw firms have the leveraged up and out model; but, I can't help thinking your associate position would be more secure in Cleveland or Chicago than NYC.

Re: Big Law

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 12:42 pm
by Slevin Kelevra 2011
buckilaw wrote:Can you expect to stay in biglaw longer in a secondary market than you would in NYC? All biglaw firms have the leveraged up and out model; but, I can't help thinking your associate position would be more secure in Cleveland or Chicago than NYC.


The difference is you can go from NYC biglaw to secondary market biglaw, but you are going to have issues going from secondary market biglaw to anywhere but midlaw/gov/inhouse.

Re: Big Law

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:24 am
by lilklolaka
the biglaw life - good and bad - can be found all over the place - there are openings all across the country (http://www.gobiglaw.com) - you really have to figure out where you are comfortable living. some cities have high salaries and cost of living is low.

Re: Big Law

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 12:13 pm
by unc0mm0n1
Desert Fox wrote:1) You idiots should stop using linear cost of living calculators. They are not accurate at higher levels of income, especially for somene living alone, and with significant debt. 40K in chicago might equal 75K. But 80K doesn't equal 150K.

No a person with a 160K big law salary doesn't have the same QOL than a partner in NYC (300K) has.

2) When people talk about big law they mean firms that pay a lot (depends on the market), and has a lot of associates (again relative to the market). A lot of people also lump in boutiques.


What is wrong with you?

Re: Big Law

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 12:53 pm
by thecilent
unc0mm0n1 wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:1) You idiots should stop using linear cost of living calculators. They are not accurate at higher levels of income, especially for somene living alone, and with significant debt. 40K in chicago might equal 75K. But 80K doesn't equal 150K.

No a person with a 160K big law salary doesn't have the same QOL than a partner in NYC (300K) has.

2) When people talk about big law they mean firms that pay a lot (depends on the market), and has a lot of associates (again relative to the market). A lot of people also lump in boutiques.


What is wrong with you?

? wtf is wrong with what he wrote?

Re: Big Law

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 6:43 pm
by Ikki
I thought biglaw = doing transactional work for $160,000 a year.

Re: Big Law

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 6:59 pm
by unc0mm0n1
thecilent wrote:
unc0mm0n1 wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:1) You idiots should stop using linear cost of living calculators. They are not accurate at higher levels of income, especially for somene living alone, and with significant debt. 40K in chicago might equal 75K. But 80K doesn't equal 150K.

No a person with a 160K big law salary doesn't have the same QOL than a partner in NYC (300K) has.

2) When people talk about big law they mean firms that pay a lot (depends on the market), and has a lot of associates (again relative to the market). A lot of people also lump in boutiques.


What is wrong with you?

? wtf is wrong with what he wrote?


I was referring to the fact he constantly calls people idiots or some other derogatory name in almost all of his posts. He seems to all ways degrade people no matter what they ask or how they ask it. That answer would have been reasonable sans the name calling.

Re: Big Law

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 7:00 pm
by HeavenWood
unc0mm0n1 wrote:
thecilent wrote:
unc0mm0n1 wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:1) You idiots should stop using linear cost of living calculators. They are not accurate at higher levels of income, especially for somene living alone, and with significant debt. 40K in chicago might equal 75K. But 80K doesn't equal 150K.

No a person with a 160K big law salary doesn't have the same QOL than a partner in NYC (300K) has.

2) When people talk about big law they mean firms that pay a lot (depends on the market), and has a lot of associates (again relative to the market). A lot of people also lump in boutiques.


What is wrong with you?

? wtf is wrong with what he wrote?


I was referring to the fact he constantly calls people idiots or some other derogatory name in almost all of his posts. He seems to all ways degrade people no matter what they ask or how they ask it. That answer would have been reasonable sans the name calling.


Welcome to TLS!

Re: Big Law

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 7:04 pm
by Patriot1208
HeavenWood wrote:
unc0mm0n1 wrote:
thecilent wrote:
unc0mm0n1 wrote:What is wrong with you?

? wtf is wrong with what he wrote?


I was referring to the fact he constantly calls people idiots or some other derogatory name in almost all of his posts. He seems to all ways degrade people no matter what they ask or how they ask it. That answer would have been reasonable sans the name calling.


Welcome to TLS the internet!

Re: Big Law

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 7:05 pm
by HeavenWood
Patriot1208 wrote:Welcome to TLS the internet! life?

Re: Big Law

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 7:09 pm
by unc0mm0n1
HeavenWood wrote:
Patriot1208 wrote:Welcome to TLS the internet! life?


seriously? I put money if he saw any of these people in real life he'd never say half the stuff he says. It seems the toughest people on the internet are the exact opposite in real life.

Re: Big Law

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 7:10 pm
by HeavenWood
unc0mm0n1 wrote:
HeavenWood wrote:
Patriot1208 wrote:Welcome to TLS the internet! life?


seriously? I put money if he saw any of these people in real life he'd never say half the stuff he says. It seems the toughest people on the internet are the exact opposite in real life.


I was being facetious. :wink:

Even so, there is by no means a shortage of assholes in the real world.

Re: Big Law

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 7:20 pm
by Patriot1208
unc0mm0n1 wrote:
HeavenWood wrote:
Patriot1208 wrote:Welcome to TLS the internet! life?


seriously? I put money if he saw any of these people in real life he'd never say half the stuff he says. It seems the toughest people on the internet are the exact opposite in real life.

Another internet tough guy accusation, I love these. And actually think df is the same irl.