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Re: Choosing a law school made easy

Postby cinephile » Sun Apr 17, 2011 2:21 pm

All my choices were within a couple points of each other. But I guess that's because most of the schools I applied to are the same rank and scholarship amount.

Even though it didn't validate my decision, this is awesome.

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Re: Choosing a law school made easy

Postby aliarrow » Sun Apr 17, 2011 2:27 pm

And the thing about using averages is that everything has to be consistent. I can't just use a 3 year average for NLJ 250 figures while only having one year's worth of data for Government placement and everything else, and I'm not sure if I'd even be able to find 3 years worth of data for everything else. If anyone else can find that then I'll use it.

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Re: Choosing a law school made easy

Postby FiveSermon » Sun Apr 17, 2011 2:36 pm

I like.

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Re: Choosing a law school made easy

Postby Hannibal » Sun Apr 17, 2011 2:40 pm

I hate what this tool represents.

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Re: Choosing a law school made easy

Postby FiveSermon » Sun Apr 17, 2011 2:42 pm

Bildungsroman wrote:For biglaw placement, can I recommend using maybe the average of the past 3 years' NLJ250 placement or something similar? I think using just c/o 2009 data for that gives an inaccurate picture.

Otherwise, this is great. :D


Also this.

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Re: Choosing a law school made easy

Postby Skyhook » Sun Apr 17, 2011 2:51 pm

aliarrow wrote:And the thing about using averages is that everything has to be consistent. I can't just use a 3 year average for NLJ 250 figures while only having one year's worth of data for Government placement and everything else, and I'm not sure if I'd even be able to find 3 years worth of data for everything else. If anyone else can find that then I'll use it.


Great work.

I would still use averages.
I see no reason to discard data even if other categories don't have as much available.
It gives a better picture overall.

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Re: Choosing a law school made easy

Postby Non-Chalant1 » Sun Apr 17, 2011 3:02 pm

I would edit the way scholarships work because many of them are not the same amount every year. The way it is set up you either have to lowball your scholly offer or put up a higher number that would skew school selection.

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Re: Choosing a law school made easy

Postby Grizz » Sun Apr 17, 2011 3:06 pm

Non-Chalant1 wrote:I would edit the way scholarships work because many of them are not the same amount every year. The way it is set up you either have to lowball your scholly offer or put up a higher number that would skew school selection.


You can't do math?

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Re: Choosing a law school made easy

Postby Dany » Sun Apr 17, 2011 3:07 pm

Non-Chalant1 wrote:I would edit the way scholarships work because many of them are not the same amount every year. The way it is set up you either have to lowball your scholly offer or put up a higher number that would skew school selection.

Or you could just divide the total number by 3?

Edit: damnit Rad Law!

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Re: Choosing a law school made easy

Postby Hannibal » Sun Apr 17, 2011 3:08 pm

The amount you get each year affects things. More frontloaded = less debt since there's less interest accumulating.

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Re: Choosing a law school made easy

Postby neonx » Sun Apr 17, 2011 3:15 pm

Fabulous!!!

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Re: Choosing a law school made easy

Postby prezidentv8 » Sun Apr 17, 2011 3:25 pm

Uh oh. Shoulda went to W&L!

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Re: Choosing a law school made easy

Postby kellycane » Sun Apr 17, 2011 3:30 pm

This is great!! Thanks for sharing. :)

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Re: Choosing a law school made easy

Postby Non-Chalant1 » Sun Apr 17, 2011 3:35 pm

Hannibal wrote:The amount you get each year affects things. More frontloaded = less debt since there's less interest accumulating.

Exactly.

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Re: Choosing a law school made easy

Postby glitched » Sun Apr 17, 2011 3:39 pm

i tweaked my preference scores to get what i want. 8)

reaffirmed that i made the correct decision.

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Re: Choosing a law school made easy

Postby bk1 » Sun Apr 17, 2011 3:41 pm

tgir wrote:Awesome!!

Regarding the prestige score, maybe like a 3-year average of the peer and/or lawyer+judge review scores from USNews?


This is a bad idea. I think "prestige" should be taken out entirely.

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Re: Choosing a law school made easy

Postby Rock Chalk » Sun Apr 17, 2011 3:42 pm

FlanAl wrote:this is really awesome thanks a bunch for putting in the time and effort!

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Re: Choosing a law school made easy

Postby Rock Chalk » Sun Apr 17, 2011 3:43 pm

bk1 wrote:
tgir wrote:Awesome!!

Regarding the prestige score, maybe like a 3-year average of the peer and/or lawyer+judge review scores from USNews?


This is a bad idea. I think "prestige" should be taken out entirely.

There is an "I don't care" option.

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Re: Choosing a law school made easy

Postby Non-Chalant1 » Sun Apr 17, 2011 3:46 pm

Dany wrote:
Non-Chalant1 wrote:I would edit the way scholarships work because many of them are not the same amount every year. The way it is set up you either have to lowball your scholly offer or put up a higher number that would skew school selection.

Or you could just divide the total number by 3?

Edit: damnit Rad Law!

what are you talking about. Let's say I have an NYU Deans scholly..let's say its 62k. 25k each of the first two years and then 12k the last year. Which is based on the supposition of 2L SA position. That is not the same thing as 21 thousand a year each year. That 4 grand more coming out of your pocket for from loans each of your first two years and its less of your salary expected to be contributed for your third year. Your loans and debt and how much it would actually cost you out of pocket/loans to attend each year is different. I'm texting on my cell phone so explain to me if I'm not being clear. I tend to under explain things. But the snarkiness was unwarranted.

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Re: Choosing a law school made easy

Postby bk1 » Sun Apr 17, 2011 3:49 pm

Rock Chalk wrote:There is an "I don't care" option.


I understand that but I think it would be more useful to print out a results line that said "You're being an idiot for making this a deciding factor" if anybody chose something other than "I don't care."

And a serious lol at anybody who thinks the USWNR surveys are useful.

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Re: Choosing a law school made easy

Postby aliarrow » Sun Apr 17, 2011 3:49 pm

voltage88 wrote:It told me I should attend Marquette even though I didn't even choose it as an option haha divine intervention? hmmm...


Thanks for pointing that out, there actually was a glitch (I repeated Kentucky twice) which threw off all the lower 25 schools. Fixd now

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Re: Choosing a law school made easy

Postby flexityflex86 » Sun Apr 17, 2011 3:51 pm

It really likes Indiana lol.

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Re: Choosing a law school made easy

Postby Dany » Sun Apr 17, 2011 3:53 pm

The point is that if people are going to think out their decision that rationally (doing the math as you described above) they're not going to use this calculator to actually make a decision. For a fun tool, dividing by 3 will work just fine.

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Re: Choosing a law school made easy

Postby aliarrow » Sun Apr 17, 2011 3:55 pm

flexityflex86 wrote:It really likes Indiana lol.


Its a financially conservative calculator.
The only way I can get it to tell me to go to BU at sticker is if I say I don't care about cost

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Re: Choosing a law school made easy

Postby beachbum » Sun Apr 17, 2011 3:55 pm

Duke edges out Vandy by a point. Sweet vindication.

(Also, great work, OP).




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