Splitter applying Fall '11: ED UVA or Georgetown? Forum

[Tamponymous]

As of now, I'm planning to apply this fall.
-non-URM
-3.0X from top 5 Ivy undergrad with no debt.
-PI related softs (non-profit internships/part time work), want PI law
-Took lsat three times 16X, 16X, 171
-Would like to work in any of the NE cities (D.C. to Boston).

Two general questions:
1. I'd be thrilled with t14 at sticker so I'm planning to ED early in the cycle. I know UVA has a rep for being splitter friendly, but I would prefer a more professional, business minded environment, which gives me pause about UVA. Is UVA really that fratty? If it is to a ridiculous degree, I expect it could hurt my performance. Think it's worth putting up with for the rank?

2. From what I've read, Georgetown has a rep for having poor employment prospects compared to its peer schools. Would I be better off somewhere with a smaller class like BU instead of Georgetown?

Thanks a bunch for any advice you can throw my way!

[dpk711]

don't ED to GULC

[sundance95]

don't ED to GULC

Also, are you in-state at VA? Willing to move there? Tough to see you not getting in to UVA ED if so.

[Tamponymous]

don't ED to GULC

Also, are you in-state at VA? Willing to move there? Tough to see you not getting in to UVA ED if so.

Thanks for the reassurance, sundance.

Nope, I'm not in VA. And I would like to avoid any long-term residence in the South. I much prefer the big cities in the Northeast.

[sundance95]

don't ED to GULC

Also, are you in-state at VA? Willing to move there? Tough to see you not getting in to UVA ED if so.

Thanks for the reassurance, sundance.

Nope, I'm not in VA. And I would like to avoid any long-term residence in the South. I much prefer the big cities in the Northeast.

I hear you. Dunno if you include DC as a big city in the NE, but I moved to Alexandria before applying and got in-state. That 15K discount feels good given that I'm not expecting any merit aid as an ED splitter. Best of luck.

[3ThrowAway99]

don't ED to GULC

? UVA has slightly better job prospects, but if you'd rather be in DC than in a small town during law school I think that could shift the decision to at least being extremely close. That's assuming though that your were implying that of the two schools GULC should be ruled out because it is a clearly inferior option (rather than just thinking that OP would have a better shot at UVA).

I kind of doubt OP will get either though with a 3.0 GPA/171(3rd attempt)... but hopefully I'm wrong about that.

[vanwinkle]

I'd recommend working a couple years, not only because it'll improve your admission chances at any of these schools, but also because it'll prepare you for law school better. I honestly see a consistent relationship between pre-LS WE and LS success among the people I've known at top law schools.

That said, if you ED to UVA on the first day, you might be able to ED to GULC if UVA doesn't take you. That would give you two bites of the apple in one year.

[3ThrowAway99]

That said, if you ED to UVA on the first day, you might be able to ED to GULC if UVA doesn't take you. That would give you two bites of the apple in one year.

WOW. Have your cake and eat it too OP!

[bender18]

I'm assuming applying ED to GULC would lock you into going there at sticker, and that might not be what you want to do. I thought about applying ED to GULC this cycle, and then elected not to. It was a good choice for me because I got into Georgetown anyway, and eventually decided not to go (and to instead take the scholly money at GW).

[thexfactor]

i think it might be possible to ED at multiple places. Michshitgan, uva and GULC... depending on when the deadlines are.

[Law Sauce]

Ed to penn. Ivys like other ivys. If you miss, then ED to UVA.

[Tamponymous]

I'd recommend working a couple years, not only because it'll improve your admission chances at any of these schools, but also because it'll prepare you for law school better. I honestly see a consistent relationship between pre-LS WE and LS success among the people I've known at top law schools.

That said, if you ED to UVA on the first day, you might be able to ED to GULC if UVA doesn't take you. That would give you two bites of the apple in one year.

I'm leaning towards working first at this point. In addition to the points you made, it makes sense to distance myself as much as possible from the GPA.

I think once I do apply, I'll ED UVA, then t14 peers like Penn and NU, and RD Georgetown and below.

Thanks for the help, everyone!

[c_dubya_s]

FYI--as for the fratty concern with UVA, it's not really that much of a problem (albeit in my limited exposure to UVA). From what I've heard, it exists, but I know from first-hand experience that there are tons of people who aren't a part of it. I loved it in Charlottesville, and I love the northeast and am not much of a partier. If you're concerned, I would suggest visiting once classes are back in session in the first week or two of September.

[coldshoulder]

That said, if you ED to UVA on the first day, you might be able to ED to GULC if UVA doesn't take you. That would give you two bites of the apple in one year.

TITCR. If you ED September 1st to UVA you'll know by october and be able to ED to GULC.

[trudat15]

I'd recommend working a couple years, not only because it'll improve your admission chances at any of these schools, but also because it'll prepare you for law school better. I honestly see a consistent relationship between pre-LS WE and LS success among the people I've known at top law schools.

That said, if you ED to UVA on the first day, you might be able to ED to GULC if UVA doesn't take you. That would give you two bites of the apple in one year.

I'm leaning towards working first at this point. In addition to the points you made, it makes sense to distance myself as much as possible from the GPA.

I think once I do apply, I'll ED UVA, then t14 peers like Penn and NU, and RD Georgetown and below.

Thanks for the help, everyone!

You cant double dip with NU, but besides that, your plan sounds credited.
Apply EARLY. Like Sept 1. You might be done with your cycle Sept 2 (I think someone on TLS EDd UVa on the 1st and got in on the 2nd).

Good luck

[enron123]

Do people actually care if you did undergrad at an IVY that isn't the one you are applying to?

[bender18]

Do people actually care if you did undergrad at an IVY that isn't the one you are applying to?

I doubt it. Except for a couple of exceptions, your undergrad institution doesn't matter. It's your GPA that really counts.

[vanwinkle]

Do people actually care if you did undergrad at an IVY that isn't the one you are applying to?

Some people do care about such things, but not adcomms, which I think is what you're actually asking about.