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Anyone choose Penn over Chi?
Trying this from another angle. Anyone actually make this counter-TLS decision? What are your thoughts?
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Scholarship money? Wanting to be in PA for some reason?
I'm sure plenty of people make this decision and tons of others that run counter to TLS conventional wisdom.
I'm sure plenty of people make this decision and tons of others that run counter to TLS conventional wisdom.
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If you really want to go to Penn over Chicago then do it. Rankings aren't the end-all.deathviaboredom wrote:Trying this from another angle. Anyone actually make this counter-TLS decision? What are your thoughts?
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I chose Penn over Chi. For me it came down to money and proximity to friends/family in NYC.
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if it were money, id feel a lot more comfortable in this option.
argh.
argh.
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If you want NYC biglaw I don't think the differences are drastic enough to say that you would be that badly off to take Penn over Chi if you really preferred Penn. Plus, there is a lot to be said for picking a marginally worse school that you drastically prefer.deathviaboredom wrote:if it were money, id feel a lot more comfortable in this option.
argh.
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After visiting both, I really preferred Penn. Something about having to take a cab into the city everytime you want to go out was off-putting to me.
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it's not a drastic preference. it's social life v. academics.bk187 wrote:If you want NYC biglaw I don't think the differences are drastic enough to say that you would be that badly off to take Penn over Chi if you really preferred Penn. Plus, there is a lot to be said for picking a marginally worse school that you drastically prefer.deathviaboredom wrote:if it were money, id feel a lot more comfortable in this option.
argh.
also, im not super itnerested in nyc biglaw
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Chose Penn over CCN with $ (not chi).
Liked it better. For the most part career prospects are the same. Simple really.
Liked it better. For the most part career prospects are the same. Simple really.
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What do you want to do? What is it that you like about Penn?deathviaboredom wrote:it's not a drastic preference. it's social life v. academics.
also, im not super itnerested in nyc biglaw
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It's what I don't like about Chi - the cold+location+rep.of.students+not.near.ny and the fact that i know some people in philly makes it more attractive.bk187 wrote:What do you want to do? What is it that you like about Penn?deathviaboredom wrote:it's not a drastic preference. it's social life v. academics.
also, im not super itnerested in nyc biglaw
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So go to Penn.deathviaboredom wrote:It's what I don't like about Chi - the cold+location+rep.of.students+not.near.ny and the fact that i know some people in philly makes it more attractive.bk187 wrote:What do you want to do? What is it that you like about Penn?deathviaboredom wrote:it's not a drastic preference. it's social life v. academics.
also, im not super itnerested in nyc biglaw
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but i love law.and.econ+north.side.of.the.city+smallness+rep+cow.
ok, so the cow's not REALLY a consideration.
ok, so the cow's not REALLY a consideration.
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Secondary market biglaw (midlaw?) or NYC biglaw.bk187 wrote:What do you want to do? What is it that you like about Penn?deathviaboredom wrote:it's not a drastic preference. it's social life v. academics.
also, im not super itnerested in nyc biglaw
The people first of all. I think Penn very much selects for more than numbers, my classmates are more accomplished in real-world ways than at most other schools I've visited. I've seen the Chicago threads where people were griping about people asking them for outlines. That would simply never happen here. We have a very B-school mentality, classmates are our future network so its important to be social and collabrative (althought the social part is hard as a 1L) and not take offense easily. Also the alumni network, loyal and prominent even in secondary markets. The very personal feel of the school.
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Go to Penn. I didn't even check out Chicago for some of the reasons that OP mentioned, but I do know that Penn had some really great people at the ASW. Going to #7 over #5 because you feel more comfortable there is far from crazy!Veyron wrote:Secondary market biglaw (midlaw?) or NYC biglaw.bk187 wrote:What do you want to do? What is it that you like about Penn?deathviaboredom wrote:it's not a drastic preference. it's social life v. academics.
also, im not super itnerested in nyc biglaw
The people first of all. I think Penn very much selects for more than numbers, my classmates are more accomplished in real-world ways than at most other schools I've visited. I've seen the Chicago threads where people were griping about people asking them for outlines. That would simply never happen here. We have a very B-school mentality, classmates are our future network so its important to be social and collabrative (althought the social part is hard as a 1L) and not take offense easily. Also the alumni network, loyal and prominent even in secondary markets. The very personal feel of the school.
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While I agree with the premise that Penn and Chi aren't that different, we both know there are times where going to a school 2 spots higher makes an enormous difference (e.g. WUSTL and Vandy).yngblkgifted wrote:Go to Penn. I didn't even check out Chicago for some of the reasons that OP mentioned, but I do know that Penn had some really great people at the ASW. Going to #7 over #5 because you feel more comfortable there is far from crazy!
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Yes, but the difference between Vandy, UCLA, Texas and the schools immediately below is huge (as ATL recently noted). That jump basically doubles your chances at biglaw. Penn and Chi isn't really the same comparison.bk187 wrote:While I agree with the premise that Penn and Chi aren't that different, we both know there are times where going to a school 2 spots higher makes an enormous difference (e.g. WUSTL and Vandy).yngblkgifted wrote:Go to Penn. I didn't even check out Chicago for some of the reasons that OP mentioned, but I do know that Penn had some really great people at the ASW. Going to #7 over #5 because you feel more comfortable there is far from crazy!
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My point exactly. Bringing up USNWR rankings is generally not useful.Veyron wrote:Yes, but the difference between Vandy, UCLA, Texas and the schools immediately below is huge (as ATL recently noted). That jump basically doubles your chances at biglaw. Penn and Chi isn't really the same comparison.
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Meh, it can have a meaningful correlation to job prospects T1 and TTT feed into same market, etc. But people try to make minute differentiations based on rank and it just doesn't work. To be sure there are schools ranked closely to one another that have meaningful differences in prospects for XYZ but that is often for reasons that have little to do with the things that make up a ranking.bk187 wrote:My point exactly. Bringing up USNWR rankings is generally not useful.Veyron wrote:Yes, but the difference between Vandy, UCLA, Texas and the schools immediately below is huge (as ATL recently noted). That jump basically doubles your chances at biglaw. Penn and Chi isn't really the same comparison.
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Agreed.Veyron wrote:Meh, it can have a meaningful correlation to job prospects T1 and TTT feed into same market, etc. But people try to make minute differentiations based on rank and it just doesn't work. To be sure there are schools ranked closely to one another that have meaningful differences in prospects for XYZ but that is often for reasons that have little to do with the things that make up a ranking.
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I would say enjoying your LS, your surroundings, and friends can make a huge difference in your experience and improve you happiness and at some level probably your performance as well
if you want to go to Penn go, U chi ≠ yale
if you want to go to Penn go, U chi ≠ yale
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Tag. Making this exact same decision tomorrow.
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Agreed. Fortunately for the OP, this is not one of those times.bk187 wrote:While I agree with the premise that Penn and Chi aren't that different, we both know there are times where going to a school 2 spots higher makes an enormous difference (e.g. WUSTL and Vandy).yngblkgifted wrote:Go to Penn. I didn't even check out Chicago for some of the reasons that OP mentioned, but I do know that Penn had some really great people at the ASW. Going to #7 over #5 because you feel more comfortable there is far from crazy!
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<3 posner <3yngblkgifted wrote:Agreed. Fortunately for the OP, this is not one of those times.bk187 wrote:While I agree with the premise that Penn and Chi aren't that different, we both know there are times where going to a school 2 spots higher makes an enormous difference (e.g. WUSTL and Vandy).yngblkgifted wrote:Go to Penn. I didn't even check out Chicago for some of the reasons that OP mentioned, but I do know that Penn had some really great people at the ASW. Going to #7 over #5 because you feel more comfortable there is far from crazy!
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who says I'll make friends at penn?
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lol I really don't think you'll be depressed at Chi...have you seen how cool we are in the 2014 thread? I mean, c'mon. If nothing else, all our adorable pets will cheer you up.deathviaboredom wrote:
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