I started Fall '02, but was on the 5-year plan so I graduated spring '07.fatduck wrote:@rayiner:
settle a debate for me: what year did you start at gatech? i think we may have been classmates (i started fall 03)
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ah, okay. i was also AE, but dropped out after a year so i didn't really take any major classes.rayiner wrote:I started Fall '02, but was on the 5-year plan so I graduated spring '07.fatduck wrote:@rayiner:
settle a debate for me: what year did you start at gatech? i think we may have been classmates (i started fall 03)
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You must not live in NY. Caltech has very little name recognition here.rayiner wrote:Nobody outside New England + NY has heard of Columbia. Everyone's heard of CalTech. They think everyone who goes there works for NASA and shit.FiveSermon wrote:You must be heavily west coast biased. I'd argue on the east coast, Columbia has far more lay prestige than Caltech. Caltech doesn't belong anywhere near HYSP MIT category. Those are schools that transcend regional biases.Caltech definitely has the least lay-prestige out of the six, but I think it has more lay prestige than any other school outside the six.
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Right. Which is why I said "nobody outside New England + NY". I grew up in DC, we don't know about Columbia there.FiveSermon wrote:You must not live in NY. Caltech has very little name recognition here.rayiner wrote:Nobody outside New England + NY has heard of Columbia. Everyone's heard of CalTech. They think everyone who goes there works for NASA and shit.FiveSermon wrote:You must be heavily west coast biased. I'd argue on the east coast, Columbia has far more lay prestige than Caltech. Caltech doesn't belong anywhere near HYSP MIT category. Those are schools that transcend regional biases.Caltech definitely has the least lay-prestige out of the six, but I think it has more lay prestige than any other school outside the six.
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I was vaguely aware of Columbia but I didn't really know where it was nor how good it was supposed to be.
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Agreed.bk187 wrote:GeePee wrote:Only two things on TLS are certain:
1. Every month or so, someone will post a new thread about NYU being worse than Columbia and Chicago.
2. You will obviously know when such a thread exists because BruceWayne bumps it with the exact same response every time.
When it's all said and done, does this really matter? NYU, year after year, has medians at or above the other CC's. The caliber of professors stays the same or better than the other cc's. The employment stays the same as the other CC's. And all 3 aspects have been better than the other t14s aside from HYS.
But year after year, NYU's general university layman prestige has been that of a t30 institution and CC's have been that of top 10's. And for some crazy reason, this conflicting information pisses people like Bruce Wayne off. Trolls: announcement: People like living in NYC. Professors do. Students do. Lawyers do. Granted, not all people. But enough people that there will, for the foreseeable future, always be enough 170+ 3.6+ students to fill NYU law's class ranks and enough heralded professors and amazing legal minds willing to teach at NYU because they want to stay in the city and not move to college town, nowhere. Employers know it's an amazing school because of these factors. NYU knows it. The students know it.
So what I guess I'm saying is: who cares?
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You could at least spell Colombia's name right, you ignoramus.Desert Fox wrote:I was vaguely aware of Columbia but I didn't really know where it was nor how good it was supposed to be.
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And give those unprestigious south americans the satisfaction! NOMickey Quicknumbers wrote:You could at least spell Colombia's name right, you ignoramus.Desert Fox wrote:I was vaguely aware of Columbia but I didn't really know where it was nor how good it was supposed to be.
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At some point, DF will manage to misspell H and Y too.
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I spelled it correctly didn't I?
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Ya, I was really confused by that whole exchange.Desert Fox wrote:I spelled it correctly didn't I?
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Chicago crushes CLS and NYU:mst wrote:The caliber of professors stays the same or better than the other cc's.
http://www.leiterrankings.com/new/2010_ ... pact.shtml
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Actually, you did.Desert Fox wrote:I spelled it correctly didn't I?
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It's a proper noun. It's spelled the way they spell it. Now that I know you are serious, you can suck my dick retard.
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Not a significant difference between the three: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 1&t=108528.
2009 NLJ 250 + 2009 Article III Clerkship Placement
Columbia - 62.4%
Chicago - 62.1%
NYU - 58.1%
2009 NLJ 250 + 2009 Article III Clerkship Placement
Columbia - 62.4%
Chicago - 62.1%
NYU - 58.1%
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1)wasnt that made by a chicago professor?ahduth wrote:Chicago crushes CLS and NYU:mst wrote:The caliber of professors stays the same or better than the other cc's.
http://www.leiterrankings.com/new/2010_ ... pact.shtml
2)if you go by that nyu is ahead of columbia. another of the c's... soooooo that makes it C->N->C... Uhhhh? I'm failing to C your point that N is not grouped with them...
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Desert Fox wrote:It's a proper noun. It's spelled the way they spell it. Now that I know you are serious, you can suck my dick retard.
...I was kidding
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That study is blatant city of Chicago trolling. Chicago beats Stanford and NYU, Northwestern beats Michigan, Virginia, and Penn.mst wrote:1)wasnt that made by a chicago professor?ahduth wrote:Chicago crushes CLS and NYU:mst wrote:The caliber of professors stays the same or better than the other cc's.
http://www.leiterrankings.com/new/2010_ ... pact.shtml
2)if you go by that nyu is ahead of columbia. another of the c's... soooooo that makes it C->N->C... Uhhhh? I'm failing to C your point that N is not grouped with them...
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The real irony here is that virtually no poster actually thinks that the gap between HYS and CCN is smaller than the gap between CCN and MPBVDCGN. If anything, there's always been a consensus to the contrary.BruceWayne wrote:
Please. That's the irony of TLS. The one gap that is quite real (between HYS and "CCN") is big. But because people on here are so infatuated with NYC biglaw they make strength of school assessments entirely on who places the most people into NYC firms. Try getting a job at the DOJ from CCN vs. HYS. It's a HUGE difference. Try getting a fed clerkship from CCN vs. HYS again a HUGE difference. But because people on here think that placement into Skadden NYC or Wachtell is all that matters and the defining way to determine school strength, they mistakenly think that "CCN" is a real grouping that is close to HYS and far away from the other schools.
I think BW is the second coming of Kurama. Discuss. (I'm looking at you, Renzo.)
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You gotta forgive him, he's constantly trolled for his spelling shortcomings IRL.Mickey Quicknumbers wrote:
...I was kidding
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Leiter provides the methodology, and he's been doing this for awhile. Even when he was at UT I thought?rayiner wrote:That study is blatant city of Chicago trolling. Chicago beats Stanford and NYU, Northwestern beats Michigan, Virginia, and Penn.mst wrote:1)wasnt that made by a chicago professor?ahduth wrote:Chicago crushes CLS and NYU:mst wrote:The caliber of professors stays the same or better than the other cc's.
http://www.leiterrankings.com/new/2010_ ... pact.shtml
2)if you go by that nyu is ahead of columbia. another of the c's... soooooo that makes it C->N->C... Uhhhh? I'm failing to C your point that N is not grouped with them...
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Quality of faculty is highly dependent on your area of interest (if you already have one).mst wrote:1)wasnt that made by a chicago professor?ahduth wrote:Chicago crushes CLS and NYU:mst wrote:The caliber of professors stays the same or better than the other cc's.
http://www.leiterrankings.com/new/2010_ ... pact.shtml
2)if you go by that nyu is ahead of columbia. another of the c's... soooooo that makes it C->N->C... Uhhhh? I'm failing to C your point that N is not grouped with them...
NYU is probably the strongest of the 3 in my area of interest. One thing that was clear to me from a review of the faculty profiles at all three is that Chicago and Columbia both had much older faculties, which seems like a drawback to me.
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LOL I thought you were. NOw you can suck my dick real friendly like though.Mickey Quicknumbers wrote:Desert Fox wrote:It's a proper noun. It's spelled the way they spell it. Now that I know you are serious, you can suck my dick retard.
...I was kidding
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ahduth wrote:Chicago crushes CLS and NYU:mst wrote:The caliber of professors stays the same or better than the other cc's.
http://www.leiterrankings.com/new/2010_ ... pact.shtml
Since NYU is ahead of CLS and Chicago has a smaller faculty (I think/assume) and the study is done by a Chicago prof... it doesn't seem to provide much evidence that NYU is behind C and C (or any).link wrote:Needless to say, citation studies are but one measure of the scholarly distinction of faculties. They tend to favor smaller faculties over larger faculties
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