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Wash U 75k

Postby flexityflex86 » Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:59 pm

Is this a can't not take offer if my other key schollies that I haven't withdrawn are IU: B 120K, ND 60K and Emory 54k.

I was really enamored with Atlanta, but is there even a point of negotiating with Emory who says they don't negotiate with terrorists if even matching wouldn't cut it?

The fact is and I'm not trolling - I never heard of WUSTL before looking at the US News rankings this past September. St. Louis seems like a cool enough city, but am I stuck in the midwest if I go there? Is the reputation really as good as my Midwestern friends tell me it is?

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Re: Wash U 75k

Postby bigkahuna2020 » Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:13 pm

If you like Atlanta, go to Emory---if you want the Midwest go to WUSTL. Emory seems to have more pull in NYC that WUSTL, and a larger alumni network.

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Re: Wash U 75k

Postby flexityflex86 » Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:18 pm

bigkahuna2020 wrote:If you like Atlanta, go to Emory---if you want the Midwest go to WUSTL. Emory seems to have more pull in NYC that WUSTL, and a larger alumni network.

which 1 is more likely to keep me from unemployment?

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Re: Wash U 75k

Postby AreJay711 » Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:24 pm

flexityflex86 wrote:
bigkahuna2020 wrote:If you like Atlanta, go to Emory---if you want the Midwest go to WUSTL. Emory seems to have more pull in NYC that WUSTL, and a larger alumni network.

which 1 is more likely to keep me from unemployment?


Well it appears to be Emory but you are really the same at either. I think the regions are different enough to make a decision -- they are for me at least. This is old data but newer data is out there somewhere I think. Overall, I think WUSTL is a slightly better school but I'm probably basing that more of TLS than real differences.

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Re: Wash U 75k

Postby flexityflex86 » Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:42 pm

AreJay711 wrote:
flexityflex86 wrote:
bigkahuna2020 wrote:If you like Atlanta, go to Emory---if you want the Midwest go to WUSTL. Emory seems to have more pull in NYC that WUSTL, and a larger alumni network.

which 1 is more likely to keep me from unemployment?


Well it appears to be Emory but you are really the same at either. I think the regions are different enough to make a decision -- they are for me at least. This is old data but newer data is out there somewhere I think. Overall, I think WUSTL is a slightly better school but I'm probably basing that more of TLS than real differences.

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Help me out with this - what is the average student doing? what's that 39-63 range for WUSTL and Emory referring to? i haven't read charts since high school.

i also never trust anything that says from reporting students, because that's a self selecting group (pinpoint is touro's 60-120k range).

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Re: Wash U 75k

Postby AreJay711 » Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:49 pm

flexityflex86 wrote:
AreJay711 wrote:
flexityflex86 wrote:
bigkahuna2020 wrote:If you like Atlanta, go to Emory---if you want the Midwest go to WUSTL. Emory seems to have more pull in NYC that WUSTL, and a larger alumni network.

which 1 is more likely to keep me from unemployment?


Well it appears to be Emory but you are really the same at either. I think the regions are different enough to make a decision -- they are for me at least. This is old data but newer data is out there somewhere I think. Overall, I think WUSTL is a slightly better school but I'm probably basing that more of TLS than real differences.

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Help me out with this - what is the average student doing? what's that 39-63 range for WUSTL and Emory referring to? i haven't read charts since high school.

i also never trust anything that says from reporting students, because that's a self selecting group (pinpoint is touro's 60-120k range).

Well that is the point of the organization that made those charts -- that they aren't terribly useful. I don't think its awful at those schools with reasonable scholarships but it isn't that great. I think Emory had a tough time last year but IDK how WUSTL did. Sorry I can't be more helpful than that.

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Re: Wash U 75k

Postby flexityflex86 » Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:57 pm

Basically my thinking now is, yes I'd prefer South > Midwest, but at the end of the day these are all secondary conditions to what are integral factors to my happiness: the opportunity to succeed in the community, and support a good life for my family.

South's big factors are the proximity to the ocean (I like surfing, and suntanning), and the food. Also, I just feel more confident and happy when it's warm out.

But at the end of the day, this is all not as important as finances particularly since I'm expected to be the one who makes it in my entire family - my siblings are all art students, and my parents are both unemployed. It seems hard to justify paying 21k more to attend Emory when WUSTL is ranked significantly higher unless rankings are overrated. I'm not a ranking whore. I'm a good job whore.

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Re: Wash U 75k

Postby AreJay711 » Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:18 am

flexityflex86 wrote:Basically my thinking now is, yes I'd prefer South > Midwest, but at the end of the day these are all secondary conditions to what are integral factors to my happiness: the opportunity to succeed in the community, and support a good life for my family.

South's big factors are the proximity to the ocean (I like surfing, and suntanning), and the food. Also, I just feel more confident and happy when it's warm out.

But at the end of the day, this is all not as important as finances particularly since I'm expected to be the one who makes it in my entire family - my siblings are all art students, and my parents are both unemployed. It seems hard to justify paying 21k more to attend Emory when WUSTL is ranked significantly higher unless rankings are overrated. I'm not a ranking whore. I'm a good job whore.


Well my thinking is this: the extra payments you will be making won't really be hugely different so location can make a difference. I really couldn't imagine living away from water myself because I grew up boating a lot so for me it would be worth it to be slightly worse chances overall but with better chances of living on the coast or lakes. I do think WUSTL might do better overall than Emory though but, once again, that is from TLS not real sources. Also, you must be from out west if you like surfing because I'll be damned if I've ever seen a surfable wave on the Atlantic not durring a storm.

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Re: Wash U 75k

Postby flexityflex86 » Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:29 am

AreJay711 wrote:
flexityflex86 wrote:Basically my thinking now is, yes I'd prefer South > Midwest, but at the end of the day these are all secondary conditions to what are integral factors to my happiness: the opportunity to succeed in the community, and support a good life for my family.

South's big factors are the proximity to the ocean (I like surfing, and suntanning), and the food. Also, I just feel more confident and happy when it's warm out.

But at the end of the day, this is all not as important as finances particularly since I'm expected to be the one who makes it in my entire family - my siblings are all art students, and my parents are both unemployed. It seems hard to justify paying 21k more to attend Emory when WUSTL is ranked significantly higher unless rankings are overrated. I'm not a ranking whore. I'm a good job whore.


Well my thinking is this: the extra payments you will be making won't really be hugely different so location can make a difference. I really couldn't imagine living away from water myself because I grew up boating a lot so for me it would be worth it to be slightly worse chances overall but with better chances of living on the coast or lakes. I do think WUSTL might do better overall than Emory though but, once again, that is from TLS not real sources. Also, you must be from out west if you like surfing because I'll be damned if I've ever seen a surfable wave on the Atlantic not durring a storm.

well i'm from the east. i'd prefer USC probably over a top 14 if they can match the offer. my parents who have known me my whole life, and would love the prestige of me going to an ivy law school told me i should take USC bec. of my personality, and background.

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Re: Wash U 75k

Postby Rock Chalk » Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:39 am

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Re: Wash U 75k

Postby flexityflex86 » Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:45 am

Rock Chalk wrote:If you would prefer Atlanta/the South to the Midwest you should take Emory, even if they won't up their offer, but you should DEFINITELY try (there's no reason to leave money on the table). Have you tried to get the Wash U offer increased by informing them of the IU-B offer? Again, no harm in trying.

If the difference between Emory and Wash U were more like 40-50k then I'd say Wash U, if you could see yourself in the Midwest. I'm not saying you'd be confined, but as with similarly ranked schools your grades would determine your reach outside the region.

Do you have ties to another city that you'd want to live in?

When people say ties, do they mean legal ties? And if so, what constitutes a legal tie? I know lawyers who like me, but these people are not going to give me a job over a more qualified applicant. They can help me out networking sure, but it's not like I can bank on it.

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Re: Wash U 75k

Postby Rock Chalk » Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:50 am

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Re: Wash U 75k

Postby AreJay711 » Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:52 am

flexityflex86 wrote:
Rock Chalk wrote:If you would prefer Atlanta/the South to the Midwest you should take Emory, even if they won't up their offer, but you should DEFINITELY try (there's no reason to leave money on the table). Have you tried to get the Wash U offer increased by informing them of the IU-B offer? Again, no harm in trying.

If the difference between Emory and Wash U were more like 40-50k then I'd say Wash U, if you could see yourself in the Midwest. I'm not saying you'd be confined, but as with similarly ranked schools your grades would determine your reach outside the region.

Do you have ties to another city that you'd want to live in?

When people say ties, do they mean legal ties? And if so, what constitutes a legal tie? I know lawyers who like me, but these people are not going to give me a job over a more qualified applicant. They can help me out networking sure, but it's not like I can bank on it.


Well Rock beat me to it but:

No like ties as in reasons to believe you want to live there. For example, I grew up in Maryland and went to college in Baltimore so I have pretty strong ties to Baltimore. Other things can be ties too like living a place or family that lives there or even maybe even trying to use you SO's ties as your own. You can always BS them too but I imagine it'd be pretty much a auto reject if a firm caught you.

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Re: Wash U 75k

Postby flexityflex86 » Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:29 am

AreJay711 wrote:
flexityflex86 wrote:
Rock Chalk wrote:If you would prefer Atlanta/the South to the Midwest you should take Emory, even if they won't up their offer, but you should DEFINITELY try (there's no reason to leave money on the table). Have you tried to get the Wash U offer increased by informing them of the IU-B offer? Again, no harm in trying.

If the difference between Emory and Wash U were more like 40-50k then I'd say Wash U, if you could see yourself in the Midwest. I'm not saying you'd be confined, but as with similarly ranked schools your grades would determine your reach outside the region.

Do you have ties to another city that you'd want to live in?

When people say ties, do they mean legal ties? And if so, what constitutes a legal tie? I know lawyers who like me, but these people are not going to give me a job over a more qualified applicant. They can help me out networking sure, but it's not like I can bank on it.


Well Rock beat me to it but:

No like ties as in reasons to believe you want to live there. For example, I grew up in Maryland and went to college in Baltimore so I have pretty strong ties to Baltimore. Other things can be ties too like living a place or family that lives there or even maybe even trying to use you SO's ties as your own. You can always BS them too but I imagine it'd be pretty much a auto reject if a firm caught you.

Is going to law school in the region not enough?

I could pull of LA given my ties to the entertainment industry, and have spent my life in the Northeast. However, I'd rather work in the Southeast than Northeast for weather reasons.

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Re: Wash U 75k

Postby Kate Monster » Thu Mar 24, 2011 11:22 am

If you haven't tried negotiating your scholarships, you should. I tried on every school I was even considering. Emory turned me down flat of course, but it doesn't hurt to try. Who knows, maybe after the dive in the rankings Emory might be more open to negotiation. WUSTL upped their offer from 75K to 90K. (Based on an offer of 120K from IUB and 90K from UIUC-UIUC also later upped their offer to match IUB, so a lot of them are willing to negotiate) So if extra money would make your decision easier, than I would definitely give it a shot.




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