Curry wrote:Well, you've provided no evidence outside of bullshit from USNWR (which is ironic cause thats what you said I was relying on), didn't rebut the LRAP point, still haven't remotely discussed how anything from UVA is better than NYU except said their equal in hiring which just isn't true given NYU's PI placement, oh and you go to Virginia so your answers must not be biased at all. You can call me an ignorant 0L spewing what I've heard on TLS but there's a reason why almost everyone who gets the option between those two schools at the same price takes NYU for PI; hell people take NYU over columbia for PI and you've provided literally zero evidence to counter that rationale. Anyways I'm done arguing with you because literally nothing anyone says will change your mind.
First I never said that UVA was better than NYU; this entire conversation is going far above your head. The point was that for PI positions it will not matter whether one attends NYU or UVA. And it's glaringly obvious that you are an 0L by your comments."Just isn't true given NYU's PI placement
"? Are you serious? What the hell are you talking about? Are you saying that because NYU may place 8 percent of its class into PI that it's "better" than the 5 percent UVA might place? Are you serious? Do you realize how bad that sort of logic is?
The only way to compare "PI placement" would be to see what sort of PI positions both schools send their graduates to. This is actually somewhat possible because UVA keeps track of this on their Career services website/viewbook and I believe that NYU does the same. Do you know what this shows you? It shows you that both schools send people to the same great PI places. DOJ, the Hague, DA's offices, Skadden fellowships, SEC, ACLU, JAG, NAACP etc. there's no meaningful difference.
Your argument about people taking NYU over CLS is even more misguided. People do this because 1. they may like NYU better personally and 2. Because of the institutional support
for PI at NYU. You are confusing institutional support with ability
to place into PI positions. The reality is that for PI it doesn't matter whether you go to GULC or NYU let alone UVA or NYU as far as PI employers willingness to look at you. Now as far as the institution's dedication
to PI that's another matter, but that has no bearing on whether the PI employer will hire you. It may make it a bit easier to network and attend job fairs etc. But even then if you're looking at a non NYC PI employer that advantage of NYU shrinks.
You seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding about how PI hiring works. They want people with good grades who are dedicated to serving the public interest. Yes they care about school, but really only to the extent that they really like HYS and they prefer top 14 over other schools (within reason. They don't want a Chicago kid with bad grades who never did any PI stuff while in law school over a kid at Vandy with a 3.7 who spent all of their summers working at a DA's office and the local legal aid society). I hate to pull the 0L card but this is just one situation where it fits all too well. You read the NYU viewbook, go excited about its "high" pi "placement", (which is really just the 6 or 7 percent of the class who chose
to do PI) heard some people on TLS say that "NYU is great for PI" and then suddenly came to the "conclusion" that that meant that NYU places "better" into PI, when you don't even realize that better would mean that they routinely accept worse grades from NYU than UVA. In short you have no idea what you're talking about.