2012 USNEWS Full List of Top Advocacy Programs

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2012 USNEWS Full List of Top Advocacy Programs

Postby lilquibo » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:12 pm

Could anyone with a premium subscription out there possibly post the full list of top trial advocacy programs????

Curious to see if there was any shift...I have a bold prediction that Stetson will lose its number 1 spot next year.

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Re: 2012 USNEWS Full List of Top Advocacy Programs

Postby Justathought » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:26 pm

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Slevin Kelevra 2011
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Re: 2012 USNEWS Full List of Top Advocacy Programs

Postby Slevin Kelevra 2011 » Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:27 pm

Who cares. These rankings are as useless as the rankings of programs based on IP, International, Tax, etc. All that matters is the school name on the degree. You will get little to no benefit from going to a school based on these rankings. They were put in place to sell magazines and advertisements.

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Re: 2012 USNEWS Full List of Top Advocacy Programs

Postby ATR » Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:36 pm

Slevin Kelevra 2011 wrote:Who cares. These rankings are as useless as the rankings of programs based on IP, International, Tax, etc. All that matters is the school name on the degree. You will get little to no benefit from going to a school based on these rankings. They were put in place to sell magazines and advertisements.

+1

This is something anyone considering law school needs to know.

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Re: 2012 USNEWS Full List of Top Advocacy Programs

Postby alexonfyre » Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:57 pm

ATR wrote:
Slevin Kelevra 2011 wrote:Who cares. These rankings are as useless as the rankings of programs based on IP, International, Tax, etc. All that matters is the school name on the degree. You will get little to no benefit from going to a school based on these rankings. They were put in place to sell magazines and advertisements.

+1

This is something anyone considering law school needs to know.


I believe you guys, but could you cite some sources/explain your reasoning? I don't understand how USN ranks by specialty, and would be interested to hear how specious it really is.

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Re: 2012 USNEWS Full List of Top Advocacy Programs

Postby ATR » Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:05 pm

alexonfyre wrote: I believe you guys, but could you cite some sources/explain your reasoning? I don't understand how USN ranks by specialty, and would be interested to hear how specious it really is.

Take a look at Ken's replies in this thread.

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Re: 2012 USNEWS Full List of Top Advocacy Programs

Postby Grizz » Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:12 pm

1) They don't correlate to better employment outcomes.

2) Rankings are based on faculty rep. Will interacting with preeminent faculty help you get a job? Maybe if you develop a good relationship with one and he puts in a good word for you, but probably not. Furthermore, you won't have get a chance to take many of these classes. Just because you're a 2L doesn't mean you won't want to take "core" type classes like Evidence, Corporations, Admin. Law, or Fed. Courts (if you're in the hunt for clerkship).

3) If you want to work at a firm, the most important round of firm of large and midsize firm recruitment happens after 1L, before you can "specialize."




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