vicuna wrote:thecilent wrote:NYU better be placing a significant amount more of people in PI -_-
They are. I think the difference is roughly 14% at NYU versus 5% for Columbia and 1% for Chicago. It is a similar phenomenon at Berkeley.
The problem with a graph like this, while useful, is that it is easy to conflate public interest graduates with unemployed or underemployed graduates.
Absolutely. I'll again emphasize that this is a very conservative measurement. That's kind of the point, though: most people would agree, the reasoning goes, that NLJ 250 or a federal clerkship probably means you aren't qualified to start a scamblog. These numbers also seem to be generated pretty reliably and regularly. I haven't seen comparable datasets for public interest or other post-grad options. PI and such also presents the problem of deciding what counts as "good". In contrast, the data is there for state clerkships, but as far as I know there isn't quite the same consensus that "state clerkship = win".
In short, one reason why NLJ 250 numbers didn't seem really poised to explode USNWR as deans' irrelevant ruminations on academic prestige was that they didn't include clerkships and presented the facially absurd suggestion that Harvard was kinda weak. I think adding Article III clerkships helps to correct some of the grossest errors.
I'll stick this up at the top to help give at least a one-year (boom/otherwise possibly non-representative) suggestion of what the rest of the picture might look like:
http://www.law.com/pdf/nlj/20080414empl ... trends.pdf
(Class of 2005 detailed outcomes)
texan_snowman wrote:Can you change the y axis to run from 0 to 100%? Otherwise the numbers look inflated at first glance.
I've put up links to the 100-scaled graphs. Maybe I'll make it the default later.
JusticeHarlan wrote:Lawlcat wrote:Important caveat: I hunted through http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandr ... ngs/page+6 for a while, but for a few schools I couldn't find the art iii data. (They're the ones with 0 on the data snapshot and no orange cap on the graph.) Let me know if you see the numbers, and I'll fix them. I THINK they're all 1% or less, but it's possible I missed them on the first pages.
W&M is on the second page at 4%
Davis is on the third page at 3%
Wisconsin is on the sixth page at 1%
I also could not find Illinois, which seems odd, but w/e.
Ahhh! Thank you. I will correct those ASAP.