Is the university of texas close to a T14 school?

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Is the university of texas close to a T14 school?

Postby BeachandRun23 » Sun Feb 27, 2011 1:14 am

Does it place into biglaw similarly to a T14? For texas, most TLSers say to choose UT over most of the T14. Is it really that strong of a school?

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Re: Is the university of texas close to a T14 school?

Postby 2011Law » Sun Feb 27, 2011 1:15 am

Yes, and the bastards rejected me today, though I don't really want to practice in the South anyway.

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Re: Is the university of texas close to a T14 school?

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Re: Is the university of texas close to a T14 school?

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Re: Is the university of texas close to a T14 school?

Postby fatduck » Sun Feb 27, 2011 1:39 am

vanwinkle wrote:Is the University of Texas close to a T14 school? The conclusive answer is no.

It's over 1,000 miles to the nearest T14 on the west coast: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=3001+Lake+Austin+Blvd,+Austin,+TX+78703+(University+of+Texas+At+Austin:+School+of+Law)&daddr=1+Cyclotron+Road,+Berkeley,+CA+94720+(UC+Berkeley+School+of+Law)&hl=en&geocode=FeQczgEdbbQs-iE5dZMKGIsjaA%3BFbbkQQIdBoW2-CEBGC6ViBwYkg&gl=us&mra=iwd&sll=45.02695,-121.201172&sspn=24.221929,34.277344&ie=UTF8&ll=33.94336,-109.951172&spn=28.27401,34.277344&z=4

It's over 1,000 miles to the nearest T14 on the east coast:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=3001+Lake+Austin+Blvd,+Austin,+TX+78703+(University+of+Texas+At+Austin:+School+of+Law)&daddr=duke+university+law+school&hl=en&geocode=FeQczgEdbbQs-iE5dZMKGIsjaA%3B&gl=us&mra=ls&sll=30.453161,-97.708061&sspn=0.461694,0.535583&ie=UTF8&z=4

And it's over 1,000 miles to the nearest T14 between the coasts:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=3001+Lake+Austin+Blvd,+Austin,+TX+78703+(University+of+Texas+At+Austin:+School+of+Law)&daddr=Northwestern+University:+Law+School,+East+Chicago+Avenue,+Chicago,+IL&hl=en&geocode=FeQczgEdbbQs-iE5dZMKGIsjaA%3BFV9LfwIdiAnH-il9k21lVdMPiDGDgYbgRE4tkQ&gl=us&mra=ls&sll=36.03222,-92.66602&sspn=13.843948,17.138672&ie=UTF8&ll=36.137875,-92.680664&spn=13.825381,17.138672&z=5

Conclusively, this demonstrates that the University of Texas is not close to a T14 law school.

If you will allow me to play devil's advocate:

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Tell me this isn't T14 material.

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Re: Is the university of texas close to a T14 school?

Postby Lawquacious » Sun Feb 27, 2011 1:53 am

L M A O.

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Re: Is the university of texas close to a T14 school?

Postby 2011Law » Sun Feb 27, 2011 1:55 am

fatduck wrote:
vanwinkle wrote:Is the University of Texas close to a T14 school? The conclusive answer is no.

It's over 1,000 miles to the nearest T14 on the west coast: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=3001+Lake+Austin+Blvd,+Austin,+TX+78703+(University+of+Texas+At+Austin:+School+of+Law)&daddr=1+Cyclotron+Road,+Berkeley,+CA+94720+(UC+Berkeley+School+of+Law)&hl=en&geocode=FeQczgEdbbQs-iE5dZMKGIsjaA%3BFbbkQQIdBoW2-CEBGC6ViBwYkg&gl=us&mra=iwd&sll=45.02695,-121.201172&sspn=24.221929,34.277344&ie=UTF8&ll=33.94336,-109.951172&spn=28.27401,34.277344&z=4

It's over 1,000 miles to the nearest T14 on the east coast:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=3001+Lake+Austin+Blvd,+Austin,+TX+78703+(University+of+Texas+At+Austin:+School+of+Law)&daddr=duke+university+law+school&hl=en&geocode=FeQczgEdbbQs-iE5dZMKGIsjaA%3B&gl=us&mra=ls&sll=30.453161,-97.708061&sspn=0.461694,0.535583&ie=UTF8&z=4

And it's over 1,000 miles to the nearest T14 between the coasts:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=3001+Lake+Austin+Blvd,+Austin,+TX+78703+(University+of+Texas+At+Austin:+School+of+Law)&daddr=Northwestern+University:+Law+School,+East+Chicago+Avenue,+Chicago,+IL&hl=en&geocode=FeQczgEdbbQs-iE5dZMKGIsjaA%3BFV9LfwIdiAnH-il9k21lVdMPiDGDgYbgRE4tkQ&gl=us&mra=ls&sll=36.03222,-92.66602&sspn=13.843948,17.138672&ie=UTF8&ll=36.137875,-92.680664&spn=13.825381,17.138672&z=5

Conclusively, this demonstrates that the University of Texas is not close to a T14 law school.

If you will allow me to play devil's advocate:

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Tell me this isn't T14 material.


my favorite part of the ad is the guy has "Former U.S. Marine" under his name, just in case you weren't sure he was a legit badass

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Re: Is the university of texas close to a T14 school?

Postby Aggiegrad2011 » Sun Feb 27, 2011 4:37 am

I hope I one day can have under my picture, "Former U.S. Soldier."

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Re: Is the university of texas close to a T14 school?

Postby FiveSermon » Sun Feb 27, 2011 4:57 am

According to the most recent stats no. Maybe Texas just had a lot of students clerk....

Prestige wise I'd say it's pretty much same as most T14 schools (in the south at least).

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Re: Is the university of texas close to a T14 school?

Postby Ty Webb » Sun Feb 27, 2011 6:21 am

Though I'm no expert on this, I think the Texas > T14 (to firms in Texas) thing is a big overblown. Firms here adore T14 students. There are so few of them who want to work here that they rare commodities. In talking with one HR manager person at a big firm in Houston, the first thing out of her mouth was that they were "Pleased with their summer class; we've got a few people from Harvard." So you can take that for what it's worth.

Texas does kill the state, though, because there are so many BigLaw jobs here and such little competition relative to other big markets. It's also an awesome school.

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Re: Is the university of texas close to a T14 school?

Postby Aggiegrad2011 » Sun Feb 27, 2011 6:24 am

But who actually wants to live IN Texas? I couldn't wait to leave. I didn't stay one second longer than I had to when the Army told me I was free to go.

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Re: Is the university of texas close to a T14 school?

Postby Ty Webb » Sun Feb 27, 2011 6:35 am

Aggiegrad2011 wrote:But who actually wants to live IN Texas? I couldn't wait to leave. I didn't stay one second longer than I had to when the Army told me I was free to go.


Grass is always greener elsewhere, my friend. I moved here from South Carolina. I may leave, but I wouldn't mind staying here. There's a lot to like about Texas, even if you don't realize it. Not having to shovel snow is a plus. Not paying state income tax is a plus. Generally reasonable real estate prices, even in prime areas, is a plus. I could go on, but you get the idea.

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Re: Is the university of texas close to a T14 school?

Postby vanwinkle » Sun Feb 27, 2011 12:09 pm

Ty Webb wrote:There's a lot to like about Texas, even if you don't realize it. Not having to shovel snow is a plus. Not paying state income tax is a plus. Generally reasonable real estate prices, even in prime areas, is a plus.

These are all things I didn't appreciate until I moved north. Also, it's impossible to find real Tex-Mex style food up here anywhere.

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Re: Is the university of texas close to a T14 school?

Postby HowdyYall » Sun Feb 27, 2011 12:17 pm

Related to OPs question: which schools in the T14 would you take over UT if you wanted Biglaw in Texas?

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Re: Is the university of texas close to a T14 school?

Postby ClosetStateSchooler » Sun Feb 27, 2011 12:24 pm

Is it exceedingly difficult to make it back to the east coast if you go to texas?

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Re: Is the university of texas close to a T14 school?

Postby emmbar53 » Sun Feb 27, 2011 2:07 pm

fatduck wrote:If you will allow me to play devil's advocate:

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Tell me this isn't T14 material.


I think the phrases on the bottom left are a list of things they'll do to you if you don't hire them.

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Postby redsoxfan2495 » Sun Feb 27, 2011 2:14 pm

emmbar53 wrote:
fatduck wrote:If you will allow me to play devil's advocate:

Image

Tell me this isn't T14 material.


I think the phrases on the bottom left are a list of things they'll do to you if you don't hire them.
:lol:

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Postby CanadianWolf » Sun Feb 27, 2011 2:52 pm

"Is the Univ. of Texas close to a T14 school ?" Many ask the same question of GULC. :D

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Re: Is the university of texas close to a T14 school?

Postby tome » Sun Feb 27, 2011 6:18 pm

Ty Webb wrote:
Aggiegrad2011 wrote:But who actually wants to live IN Texas? I couldn't wait to leave. I didn't stay one second longer than I had to when the Army told me I was free to go.


Grass is always greener elsewhere, my friend. I moved here from South Carolina. I may leave, but I wouldn't mind staying here. There's a lot to like about Texas, even if you don't realize it. Not having to shovel snow is a plus. Not paying state income tax is a plus. Generally reasonable real estate prices, even in prime areas, is a plus. I could go on, but you get the idea.



I don't think anyone here is saying that Texas is worse than North Carolina. But, fortunately, that is not the extent of the choice in the 'merica.

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Re: Is the university of texas close to a T14 school?

Postby awilson11 » Mon Feb 28, 2011 6:59 pm

vanwinkle wrote:
Ty Webb wrote:There's a lot to like about Texas, even if you don't realize it. Not having to shovel snow is a plus. Not paying state income tax is a plus. Generally reasonable real estate prices, even in prime areas, is a plus.

These are all things I didn't appreciate until I moved north. Also, it's impossible to find real Tex-Mex style food up here anywhere.

Everyone from southern California just laughed at real and Tex-Mex appearing next to each other

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Re: Is the university of texas close to a T14 school?

Postby unc0mm0n1 » Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:33 am

Aggiegrad2011 wrote:I hope I one day can have under my picture, "Former U.S. Soldier."


HOOAH!!!!!!!

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Re: Is the university of texas close to a T14 school?

Postby niederbomb » Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:53 am

Serious answer: every T14 school, with the possible exception of Michigan, places its graduates disproportionately into NYC and DC. UT is a regional school. That isn't to say that UT isn't perhaps a much safer choice than GULC. But it's not in the position to be a T14 school and probably never will be (If any up-and-coming LS could displace Gtown, it's probably Vanderbilt).

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Re: Is the university of texas close to a T14 school?

Postby Ty Webb » Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:57 am

tome wrote:
Ty Webb wrote:
Aggiegrad2011 wrote:But who actually wants to live IN Texas? I couldn't wait to leave. I didn't stay one second longer than I had to when the Army told me I was free to go.


Grass is always greener elsewhere, my friend. I moved here from South Carolina. I may leave, but I wouldn't mind staying here. There's a lot to like about Texas, even if you don't realize it. Not having to shovel snow is a plus. Not paying state income tax is a plus. Generally reasonable real estate prices, even in prime areas, is a plus. I could go on, but you get the idea.



I don't think anyone here is saying that Texas is worse than North Carolina. But, fortunately, that is not the extent of the choice in the 'merica.


Your post missed the mark on about 5 different levels.

FWIW, North Carolina is a place where people should want to live.

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Re: Is the university of texas close to a T14 school?

Postby BeautifulSW » Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:36 pm

I've lived within a few miles of West Texas or the High Plains for the last twenty-odd years, within thirty miles of El Paso since 1994. UT Austin places very well everywhere in Texas and there's a lot of law going on in Texas. Nevertheless...I've been eligible to waive into the Texas Bar for a gazillion years now. I have a barely-started application rotting in my desk drawer. I just cannot bring myself to do it. Texas is a polarizing place. Either you are in love with the whole idea or you tend to hate Texans, Texas, and anything with a single white star on it. Don't know why.

Speaking as objectively as a New Mexican can on this subject, Texas is a genuine Land of Opportunity. It is also, in many places, stunningly beautiful and endlessly interesting from a cultural or historic standpoint. The state has a population nearing 20 million so you can run into just about any sort of person there (I once attended a Hindu wedding reception in Seminole Texas) and is so huge that you can find any kind of landscape except the Alpine. (They think they have mountains but they don't, not really.)

Truth? If I were just starting out and my spouse didn't hate Texas, I'd put the state, and UT Austin, very high on the list.

Oh, and we New Mexicans laugh at "real Tex-Mex" too but we also laugh at the efforts of SoCal to produce anything resembling good green chile sauce. It's really CHIHUAHUAN cuisine, you know, and no one outside of Chihuahua or N.Mex. ever seems to get it right. Well, El Paso, of course, but we think of them as being honorary New Mexicans. :)

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Re: Is the university of texas close to a T14 school?

Postby privatemf » Tue Mar 01, 2011 3:55 pm

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my favorite part of the ad is the guy has "Former U.S. Marine" under his name, just in case you weren't sure he was a legit badass[/quote]


You guys are crazy.




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