2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby mavsman88 » Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:31 pm

Shouldn't they be leaked by now?

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby beachbum » Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:34 pm

mavsman88 wrote:Shouldn't they be leaked by now?


One would think.

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby ScarryBakhtin » Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:41 pm

beachbum wrote:
mavsman88 wrote:Shouldn't they be leaked by now?


One would think.


They are still trying to figure out where to put GULC...

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Postby beachbum » Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:44 pm

ScarryBakhtin wrote:
beachbum wrote:
mavsman88 wrote:Shouldn't they be leaked by now?


One would think.


They are still trying to figure out where to put GULC...


14. Done and done.

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Postby stratocophic » Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:46 pm

beachbum wrote:
mavsman88 wrote:Shouldn't they be leaked by now?


One would think.
They're being released online first. USNWR got smart and there will be no print articles for NYers to snag a few days early as there were in the past.

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby pinkzeppelin » Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:48 pm

beachbum wrote:
ScarryBakhtin wrote:
beachbum wrote:
mavsman88 wrote:Shouldn't they be leaked by now?


One would think.


They are still trying to figure out where to put GULC...


14. Done and done.


Nah, "GeorgeTTTown UniversiTTTy Law CenTTTer"

So many T's for TTTransformation. Definitely not T14 material.

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby canam2011 » Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:48 pm

well that just isn't nice at all...

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby Marionberry » Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:10 pm

Waiting to see who falls out of the T28.

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby FuManChusco » Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:15 pm

Marionberry wrote:Waiting to see who falls out of the T28.


this must be a joke...

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Postby Marionberry » Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:16 pm

FuManChusco wrote:
Marionberry wrote:Waiting to see who falls out of the T28.


this must be a joke...


:D Did you miss that thread?

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Postby brose » Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:17 pm

Marionberry wrote:
FuManChusco wrote:
Marionberry wrote:Waiting to see who falls out of the T28.


this must be a joke...


:D Did you miss that thread?


Where?

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby 99.9luft » Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:17 pm

This is how the employment criteria are calulated:
Graduates who are working or pursuing graduate degrees are considered employed. Employment rates are measured at graduation (.04 weight ) and nine months after graduation (.14 weight). For the nine-month employment rate, 25 percent of those whose status is unknown are counted as employed. Those who are unemployed and not seeking jobs are excluded from the calculations and are not counted as unemployed. Those who are unemployed and seeking work are counted as unemployed in the calculations of the employment rates.


I think 1) the bolded is B.S.
2) Bar passage rate should be counted as more than the current 0.02%

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Postby bdubs » Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:21 pm

99.9luft wrote:This is how the employment criteria are calulated:
Graduates who are working or pursuing graduate degrees are considered employed. Employment rates are measured at graduation (.04 weight ) and nine months after graduation (.14 weight). For the nine-month employment rate, 25 percent of those whose status is unknown are counted as employed. Those who are unemployed and not seeking jobs are excluded from the calculations and are not counted as unemployed. Those who are unemployed and seeking work are counted as unemployed in the calculations of the employment rates.


I think 1) the bolded is B.S.
2) Bar passage rate should be counted as more than the current 0.02%


Bar passage is a BS measure for highly ranked schools because it is difference from the mean and not absolute. It winds up advantaging schools whose graduates primarily take a bar exam with a low pass rate and disadvantaging schools where the rate is higher.

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby Marionberry » Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:21 pm

brose wrote:
Marionberry wrote:
FuManChusco wrote:
Marionberry wrote:Waiting to see who falls out of the T28.


this must be a joke...


:D Did you miss that thread?


Where?


I don't know where it was, but someone made a thread to talk about who would go where if USNWR broke up the number 28 spot.

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby buckilaw » Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:24 pm

99.9luft wrote:This is how the employment criteria are calulated:
Graduates who are working or pursuing graduate degrees are considered employed. Employment rates are measured at graduation (.04 weight ) and nine months after graduation (.14 weight). For the nine-month employment rate, 25 percent of those whose status is unknown are counted as employed. Those who are unemployed and not seeking jobs are excluded from the calculations and are not counted as unemployed. Those who are unemployed and seeking work are counted as unemployed in the calculations of the employment rates.


I think 1) the bolded is B.S.
2) Bar passage rate should be counted as more than the current 0.02%


Bar passage rate should not be counted at all. Grads take the bar in different states so you can't make an apples to apples comparison. However, if a school had an abysmal bar passage rate, like less than 80%, that could be used to instantly drop it into TTT.

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby FuManChusco » Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:24 pm

gotcha marionberry. I think I might have missed that one. Although my memory of TLS threads is poor at best.

I was thinking you're on the boards to much to 1.) care about that or 2.) think it's even reasonable to bring it up. lol

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby Marionberry » Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:27 pm

FuManChusco wrote:I was thinking you're on the boards too much


Yah, I've been thinking the same thing.


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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby MrPapagiorgio » Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:31 pm

Very ninja on that grammar fix, rman.

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby rman1201 » Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:32 pm

MrPapagiorgio wrote:Very ninja on that grammar fix, rman.


STFU and GTFO

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby HamDel » Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:34 pm

Wait... did I just get rickrolled? On Flickr?

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby koalatriste » Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:35 pm

Knock wrote:Prediction:

1. Yale
2. Stanford
3. Harvard
4. Chicago
5. Columbia
6. NYU
7. Berkeley
8. Penn
9. Michigan
10. UVA
11.Northwestern
12. Duke
13. Cornell
14. UCLA


1. Cornell
2. Stanford
2. Yale
2. Harvard
5. Chicago
5. Columbia
7. NYU
7. Berkeley
9. Penn
10. Michigan
11. UVA
11. Northwestern
13. Duke
14. Georgetown

KOALA.

Obviously kidding. I'm sure things will stay the same. and if they don't, will anyone notice?

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby Ratchet Jackson » Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:37 pm

koalatriste wrote:
Knock wrote:Prediction:

1. Yale
2. Stanford
3. Harvard
4. Chicago
5. Columbia
6. NYU
7. Berkeley
8. Penn
9. Michigan
10. UVA
11.Northwestern
12. Duke
13. Cornell
14. UCLA


1. Cornell
2. Stanford
2. Yale
2. Harvard
5. Chicago
5. Columbia
7. NYU
7. Berkeley
9. Penn
10. Michigan
11. UVA
11. Northwestern
13. Duke
14. Georgetown

KOALA.

Obviously kidding. I'm sure things will stay the same. and if they don't, will anyone notice?


Everybody will notice.

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby rockyrac » Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:40 pm

any chance nyu jumps back ahead of chicago?




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