2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby Grizz » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:12 am

cowgirl_bebop wrote:
fakemoney wrote:Damn, St. John's took a beating


SJU FTL

On another note, good to see IUB go up into the top 25.


This will assuredly put them in the top 50 schools for NLJ250 stats. Biglaw employers will finally wise up.

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby romothesavior » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:12 am

SBL wrote:
General Tso wrote:
SBL wrote:[img]http[/img]


it's all you dood. USNWR is a big fan.

Given that between my 0L year and now the school has gone from 44 to 23, I think it's safe to say we're seeing a "SBL Effect." To everyone who might benefit from UC Davis's new ranking in the future, I'd just like to humbly say "You're welcome."

But won't they drop off once you graduate?

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby fatduck » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:13 am

romothesavior wrote:
SBL wrote:
General Tso wrote:
SBL wrote:[img]http[/img]


it's all you dood. USNWR is a big fan.

Given that between my 0L year and now the school has gone from 44 to 23, I think it's safe to say we're seeing a "SBL Effect." To everyone who might benefit from UC Davis's new ranking in the future, I'd just like to humbly say "You're welcome."

But won't they drop off once you graduate?

They'll already have done OCI, so it doesn't matter.

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby General Tso » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:13 am

Bumi wrote:I found the reputation scores interesting:

4.8 H
4.7 YS
4.6 CCV
4.5 MP
4.4 NBD
4.3 NCGT
4.1 Vandy
4.0 Carolina
3.9 UCLA, WUSTL, Minn, Emory, W&L
3.8 GW, W&M, Iowa, Hastings
3.7 BU, UIUC, ND, BC, UW, UW-M
3.6 USC, IUB, UCD, Wake


Hastings is more highly regarded than USC and UCD, but our employment rates are lagging 10%+ behind..hmmm

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby AreJay711 » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:13 am

Bumi wrote:I found the reputation scores interesting:

4.8 H
4.7 YS
4.6 CCV
4.5 MP
4.4 NBD
4.3 NCGT
4.1 Vandy
4.0 Carolina
3.9 UCLA, WUSTL, Minn, Emory, W&L
3.8 GW, W&M, Iowa, Hastings
3.7 BU, UIUC, ND, BC, UW, UW-M
3.6 USC, IUB, UCD, Wake


Is this the academic peer score or judges and lawyers reputation score?

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby 20160810 » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:13 am

romothesavior wrote:
SBL wrote:
General Tso wrote:
SBL wrote:[img]http[/img]


it's all you dood. USNWR is a big fan.

Given that between my 0L year and now the school has gone from 44 to 23, I think it's safe to say we're seeing a "SBL Effect." To everyone who might benefit from UC Davis's new ranking in the future, I'd just like to humbly say "You're welcome."

But won't they drop off once you graduate?

I have left traces of my DNA all over the school to prevent this from happening. You're welcome.

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby jamie9248922 » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:14 am

BC went up one...it really should push hard to get into the T25...maybe finally tie or get past BU

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby JusticeHarlan » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:14 am

Bumi wrote:I found the reputation scores interesting:

4.8 H
4.7 YS
4.6 CCV
4.5 MP
4.4 NBD
4.3 NCGT
4.1 Vandy
4.0 Carolina
3.9 UCLA, WUSTL, Minn, Emory, W&L
3.8 GW, W&M, Iowa, Hastings
3.7 BU, UIUC, ND, BC, UW, UW-M
3.6 USC, IUB, UCD, Wake

How does IUB stay so high in the rankings?

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby chup » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:15 am

LOL, "trending":

"Percent employed in all judicial clerkships"

Notre Dame: 15.1%
Boston College: 8.2%
Indiana: 7.5%
Illinois: 6.7%
WUSTL: 4.0%

"Percent employed in a judicial clerkship by an Article III federal judge"

Notre Dame: 7.6%
Indiana: 4.7%
Boston College: 4.3%
Illinois: 4.2%
WUSTL: 3.0%

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby FuManChusco » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:15 am

jamie9248922 wrote:BC went up one...it really should push hard to get into the T25...maybe finally tie or get past BU


definitely. then their graduates would be able to find employment. as of now they get no respect in Boston. Big firms just don't want to hire from a non-t25.

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby 20160810 » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:16 am

rad law wrote:
cowgirl_bebop wrote:
fakemoney wrote:Damn, St. John's took a beating


SJU FTL

On another note, good to see IUB go up into the top 25.


This will assuredly put them in the top 50 schools for NLJ250 stats. Biglaw employers will finally wise up.

TBF using NLJ250 data is essentially a way to pump up Fordham and GW at the expense of solid schools in smaller markets. The "good" firms in places like Indianapolis aren't likely to be NLJ250, but they're still decent options.

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Postby ATR » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:19 am

SBL wrote:I have left traces of my DNA all over the school to prevent this from happening. You're welcome.

Aha! So that WAS you in the stairwell.

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby harrijust86 » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:20 am

FuManChusco wrote:
jamie9248922 wrote:BC went up one...it really should push hard to get into the T25...maybe finally tie or get past BU


definitely. then their graduates would be able to find employment. as of now they get no respect in Boston. Big firms just don't want to hire from a non-t25.



I just want to get in. After my Maryland "prefered" waitlist today I can all but cross off the possibility.

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby danquayle » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:20 am

SBL wrote:
rad law wrote:
cowgirl_bebop wrote:
fakemoney wrote:Damn, St. John's took a beating


SJU FTL

On another note, good to see IUB go up into the top 25.


This will assuredly put them in the top 50 schools for NLJ250 stats. Biglaw employers will finally wise up.

TBF using NLJ250 data is essentially a way to pump up Fordham and GW at the expense of solid schools in smaller markets. The "good" firms in places like Indianapolis aren't likely to be NLJ250, but they're still decent options.


Yeah, but Indiana shouldn't be getting slaughtered by Iowa or even Wisconsin in those rankings. There's definitely a bias there, but not enough to explain why Indiana grossly underperforms its peer schools in this metric.

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby rman1201 » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:21 am

Its not looking good for Emory...

Rank School % Employed at Graduation (c/o 09) % Employed at 9 months (c/o 09)

#1 Yale University 94.50% 96.50%

#2 Harvard University 93.70% 97.50%

#3 Stanford University 94.50% 96.50%

#4 Columbia University 97.30% 97.80%

#5 University of Chicago 94.20% 99.00%

#6 New York University 96.40% 97.00%

#7 University of Michigan--Ann Arbor 94.90% 96.40%

#7 University of Pennsylvania 96.50% 97.70%

#9 University of California--Berkeley 92.20% 95.60%

#9 University of Virginia 97.00% 97.80%

#11 Duke University 95.90% 95.40%

#12 Northwestern University 92.70% 95.00%

#13 Cornell University 92.80% 97.40%

#14 Georgetown University 90.10% 92.30%

#14 University of Texas--Austin 92.80% 93.20%

#16 University of California--Los Angeles

#16 Vanderbilt University

#18 University of Southern California (Gould)

#18 Washington University in St. Louis 88.3% 95.5%

#20 George Washington University 93% 97.5%

#20 University of Minnesota--Twin Cities 84.70% 94.10%

#22 Boston University 85.50% 94.40%

#23 Indiana University--Bloomington (Maurer) 78.50% 89.20%

#23 University of California--Davis

#23 University of Illinois--Urbana-Champaign

#23 University of Notre Dame 83.80% 93.40%

#27 Boston College 79.20% 94.30%

#27 College of William and Mary (Marshall-Wythe) 84.30% 93.70%

#27 University of Iowa

#30 Emory University 65.10% 87.10%

#30 Fordham University 79.40% 91.50%
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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby FuManChusco » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:22 am

rad is winning

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby Grizz » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:22 am

ATR wrote:
SBL wrote:I have left traces of my DNA all over the school to prevent this from happening. You're welcome.

Aha! So that WAS you in the stairwell.

Naw, SBL was merely having a j/o or 2 in the school , not sexing up a girl.

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby JusticeHarlan » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:22 am

chup wrote:"Percent employed in a judicial clerkship by an Article III federal judge"

Is that data for class of '09?

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby 20160810 » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:23 am

rad law wrote:
ATR wrote:
SBL wrote:I have left traces of my DNA all over the school to prevent this from happening. You're welcome.

Aha! So that WAS you in the stairwell.

Naw, SBL was merely having a j/o or 2 in the school , not sexing up a girl.

Thanks for defending my honor bro.

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby ArthurDigbySellers » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:23 am

FuManChusco wrote:
jamie9248922 wrote:BC went up one...it really should push hard to get into the T25...maybe finally tie or get past BU


definitely. then their graduates would be able to find employment. as of now they get no respect in Boston. Big firms just don't want to hire from a non-t25.


You are the runner up for this thread's Troll Award. Congrats!

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby Mickey Quicknumbers » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:24 am

chup wrote:LOL, "trending":

"Percent employed in all judicial clerkships"

Notre Dame: 15.1%
Boston College: 8.2%
Indiana: 7.5%
Illinois: 6.7%
WUSTL: 4.0%

"Percent employed in a judicial clerkship by an Article III federal judge"

Notre Dame: 7.6%
Indiana: 4.7%
Boston College: 4.3%
Illinois: 4.2%
WUSTL: 3.0%


source? (for my own curiosity)

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby stratocophic » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:25 am

chup wrote:LOL, "trending":

"Percent employed in all judicial clerkships"

Notre Dame: 15.1%
Boston College: 8.2%
Indiana: 7.5%
Illinois: 6.7%
WUSTL: 4.0%

"Percent employed in a judicial clerkship by an Article III federal judge"

Notre Dame: 7.6%
Indiana: 4.7%
Boston College: 4.3%
Illinois: 4.2%
WUSTL: 3.0%
WUSTL has more a larger student body than all 4 of the other schools, and there are a finite number of fed and Art III clerkships to go around. You do the math.

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby General Tso » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:26 am

rman1201 wrote:Its not looking good for Emory...

Rank School % Employed at Graduation (c/o 09) % Employed at 9 months (c/o 09)


#23 University of California--Davis

#23 University of Illinois--Urbana-Champaign

#23 University of Notre Dame 83.80% 93.40%

#27 Boston College 79.20% 94.30%

#27 College of William and Mary (Marshall-Wythe) 84.30% 93.70%

#27 University of Iowa

#30 Emory University 65.10% 87.10%

#30 Fordham University 79.40% 91.50%


What is up with Davis and others' missing data?

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby rman1201 » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:27 am

General Tso wrote:
rman1201 wrote:Its not looking good for Emory...

Rank School % Employed at Graduation (c/o 09) % Employed at 9 months (c/o 09)


#23 University of California--Davis

#23 University of Illinois--Urbana-Champaign

#23 University of Notre Dame 83.80% 93.40%

#27 Boston College 79.20% 94.30%

#27 College of William and Mary (Marshall-Wythe) 84.30% 93.70%

#27 University of Iowa

#30 Emory University 65.10% 87.10%

#30 Fordham University 79.40% 91.50%


What is up with Davis and others' missing data?


This is from a spreadsheet I started making, just with schools I care about atm

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby eddieg803 » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:27 am

rman1201 wrote:Its not looking good for Emory...

Rank School % Employed at Graduation (c/o 09) % Employed at 9 months (c/o 09)

#30 Emory University 65.10% 87.10%


this is the part where i seriously consider transferring back home to state school. am i really paying $40k/yr for 65% employment rate? and i love how all year the deans have been talking about how great things are looking, how emory is a mover & a shaker, blah blah blah. but i mean come on... 65%...




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