167TheFactor wrote:I knew I was a genius.ATR wrote:Yeah, and so is everyone who scored 167+ on the LSAT.beachbum wrote:I don't like to brag, but I'm qualified to join MENSA.
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167TheFactor wrote:I knew I was a genius.ATR wrote:Yeah, and so is everyone who scored 167+ on the LSAT.beachbum wrote:I don't like to brag, but I'm qualified to join MENSA.
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Who cares...MENSA is a real pantie-dropper.ATR wrote:167TheFactor wrote:I knew I was a genius.ATR wrote:Yeah, and so is everyone who scored 167+ on the LSAT.beachbum wrote:I don't like to brag, but I'm qualified to join MENSA.
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Not to get off topic, but no. Part of whatever we have now, yes. You are on to something if you're saying we cannot necessarily predict the job market two or three years down the road, however. Conversely, I think it's a really possibility the economy could be in worse shape a few years from now. How that will play out with the legal market, I don't know.powerlawyer06 wrote:That is just part of capitalism.
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I think if we're "worse off" down the road (2-3yrs from now), my 6 figure debt would be the last concern on my mind.TheOcho wrote:Not to get off topic, but no. Part of whatever we have now, yes. You are on to something if you're saying we cannot necessarily predict the job market two or three years down the road, however. Conversely, I think it's a really possibility the economy could be in worse shape a few years from now. How that will play out with the legal market, I don't know.powerlawyer06 wrote:That is just part of capitalism.
Really? It would be #1 for me.Malcolm8X wrote:I think if we're "worse off" down the road (2-3yrs from now), my 6 figure debt would be the last concern on my mind.TheOcho wrote:Not to get off topic, but no. Part of whatever we have now, yes. You are on to something if you're saying we cannot necessarily predict the job market two or three years down the road, however. Conversely, I think it's a really possibility the economy could be in worse shape a few years from now. How that will play out with the legal market, I don't know.powerlawyer06 wrote:That is just part of capitalism.
Not if we're experience hyper inflation.FiveSermon wrote:Really? It would be #1 for me.Malcolm8X wrote:I think if we're "worse off" down the road (2-3yrs from now), my 6 figure debt would be the last concern on my mind.TheOcho wrote:Not to get off topic, but no. Part of whatever we have now, yes. You are on to something if you're saying we cannot necessarily predict the job market two or three years down the road, however. Conversely, I think it's a really possibility the economy could be in worse shape a few years from now. How that will play out with the legal market, I don't know.powerlawyer06 wrote:That is just part of capitalism.
A crash followed by another recession so soon?! To me that's a sign that the economy has collapsed and the government can't fix it. EVERYBODY would be screwed.FiveSermon wrote:Really? It would be #1 for me.Malcolm8X wrote:I think if we're "worse off" down the road (2-3yrs from now), my 6 figure debt would be the last concern on my mind.TheOcho wrote:Not to get off topic, but no. Part of whatever we have now, yes. You are on to something if you're saying we cannot necessarily predict the job market two or three years down the road, however. Conversely, I think it's a really possibility the economy could be in worse shape a few years from now. How that will play out with the legal market, I don't know.powerlawyer06 wrote:That is just part of capitalism.
Really? It would be #1 for me.[/quote]Malcolm8X wrote:I think if we're "worse off" down the road (2-3yrs from now), my 6 figure debt would be the last concern on my mind.
If we're "worse off" in a few years, we'll probably all be too worried about fighting over gasoline and drinkable water, Mad Max-style, to worry about student loan debt.FiveSermon wrote:Really? It would be #1 for me.Malcolm8X wrote:I think if we're "worse off" down the road (2-3yrs from now), my 6 figure debt would be the last concern on my mind.TheOcho wrote:Not to get off topic, but no. Part of whatever we have now, yes. You are on to something if you're saying we cannot necessarily predict the job market two or three years down the road, however. Conversely, I think it's a really possibility the economy could be in worse shape a few years from now. How that will play out with the legal market, I don't know.powerlawyer06 wrote:That is just part of capitalism.
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Can't we have a "worse off" hypothetical that isn't the equivalent of a post WW1 Germany or some kind of apocalypse?
If we're "worse off" in a few years, we'll probably all be too worried about fighting over gasoline and drinkable water, Mad Max-style, to worry about student loan debt.
Yeah, seriously. Our economy went through a recession only slightly larger than the previous recessions. It was just very dramatic. Things could get much worse without having anyone riding into the Thunder Dome. We could just have the 70s.FiveSermon wrote:Can't we have a "worse off" hypothetical that isn't the equivalent of a post WW1 Germany or some kind of apocalypse?
If we're "worse off" in a few years, we'll probably all be too worried about fighting over gasoline and drinkable water, Mad Max-style, to worry about student loan debt.
Nevermind. Recreating the Thunderdome would be worth it.Hey-O wrote:Yeah, seriously. Our economy went through a recession only slightly larger than the previous recessions. It was just very dramatic. Things could get much worse without having anyone riding into the Thunder Dome. We could just have the 70s.FiveSermon wrote:Can't we have a "worse off" hypothetical that isn't the equivalent of a post WW1 Germany or some kind of apocalypse?
If we're "worse off" in a few years, we'll probably all be too worried about fighting over gasoline and drinkable water, Mad Max-style, to worry about student loan debt.
way to burst my bubbleHey-O wrote:Yeah, seriously. Our economy went through a recession only slightly larger than the previous recessions. It was just very dramatic. Things could get much worse without having anyone riding into the Thunder Dome. We could just have the 70s.FiveSermon wrote:Can't we have a "worse off" hypothetical that isn't the equivalent of a post WW1 Germany or some kind of apocalypse?
If we're "worse off" in a few years, we'll probably all be too worried about fighting over gasoline and drinkable water, Mad Max-style, to worry about student loan debt.
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Could things get worse than they were in 2009? Probably. Will they? Not if the Stock Market is any indication. Basically, we had the foreclosures, then the financial apocalypse + the bailouts, then the beginning of a recovery, then a pullback due to sovereign debt crises in early 2010. Now we've moved past that, and Warren Buffet (and others) are bullish on the economy going forward. The S&P 500 is more than double what it was in early 2009. China's ability to erode into U.S. manufacturing is slowing also, as food prices skyrocket, workers riot for higher wages, and Yuan appreciates. While things might be slow for quite sometime, I think the economy is mostly up from here on out.Hey-O wrote:Yeah, seriously. Our economy went through a recession only slightly larger than the previous recessions. It was just very dramatic. Things could get much worse without having anyone riding into the Thunder Dome. We could just have the 70s.FiveSermon wrote:Can't we have a "worse off" hypothetical that isn't the equivalent of a post WW1 Germany or some kind of apocalypse?
If we're "worse off" in a few years, we'll probably all be too worried about fighting over gasoline and drinkable water, Mad Max-style, to worry about student loan debt.
I think the only concerns regarding the state of the economy are the current uprisings in North Africa/Middle East. The Libya revolt has led to soaring oil prices. Recovery is inevitable for all the reasons listed above. But excessively high oil prices can erode economic growth.niederbomb wrote:Could things get worse than they were in 2009? Probably. Will they? Not if the Stock Market is any indication. Basically, we had the foreclosures, then the financial apocalypse + the bailouts, then the beginning of a recovery, then a pullback due to sovereign debt crises in early 2010. Now we've moved past that, and Warren Buffet (and others) are bullish on the economy going forward. The S&P 500 is more than double what it was in early 2009. China's ability to erode into U.S. manufacturing is slowing also, as food prices skyrocket, workers riot for higher wages, and Yuan appreciates. While things might be slow for quite sometime, I think the economy is mostly up from here on out.Hey-O wrote:Yeah, seriously. Our economy went through a recession only slightly larger than the previous recessions. It was just very dramatic. Things could get much worse without having anyone riding into the Thunder Dome. We could just have the 70s.FiveSermon wrote:Can't we have a "worse off" hypothetical that isn't the equivalent of a post WW1 Germany or some kind of apocalypse?
If we're "worse off" in a few years, we'll probably all be too worried about fighting over gasoline and drinkable water, Mad Max-style, to worry about student loan debt.
...and the Democrats lost the House and will probably lose the Senate in 2012 when Obama wins reelection. Split government is good for the economy.
The spike in oil seems purely speculative, as above ground storage is at an all time high and there has been minimal supply disruption.I think the only concerns regarding the state of the economy are the current uprisings in North Africa/Middle East. The Libya revolt has led to soaring oil prices. Recovery is inevitable for all the reasons listed above. But excessively high oil prices can erode economic growth.
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Not to be contrarian, but there are plenty of economists who will argue our economic "recovery" has been entirely artificial. There has been no fundamental change in the capital structure of the economy and when stimulus stops and interest rates are allowed to return to market levels we will have another housing-like crash in a different sector of the economy. I sure hope I'm wrong, but it's a real possibility.niederbomb wrote:I think the only concerns regarding the state of the economy are the current uprisings in North Africa/Middle East.
What other sector of the economy are we talking about? Also, a bunch of big banks went bust while others were forced to adapt or were bailed out. The foreclosure crisis is not getting worse, and it's reasonable to say that any financial company who's weathered it thus far is probably going to survive long term. So, in a way, the fundamentals of the economy have changed, and maybe the capital structure for the remaining companies is ok.TheOcho wrote:Not to be contrarian, but there are plenty of economists who will argue our economic "recovery" has been entirely artificial. There has been no fundamental change in the capital structure of the economy and when stimulus stops and interest rates are allowed to return to market levels we will have another housing-like crash in a different sector of the economy. I sure hope I'm wrong, but it's a real possibility.niederbomb wrote:I think the only concerns regarding the state of the economy are the current uprisings in North Africa/Middle East.
Of course, capitalism by nature is boom and bust. The point is to get our jobs during the boom phase that's soon to come and hopefully hang on to them.TheOcho wrote:Not to be contrarian, but there are plenty of economists who will argue our economic "recovery" has been entirely artificial. There has been no fundamental change in the capital structure of the economy and when stimulus stops and interest rates are allowed to return to market levels we will have another housing-like crash in a different sector of the economy. I sure hope I'm wrong, but it's a real possibility.niederbomb wrote:I think the only concerns regarding the state of the economy are the current uprisings in North Africa/Middle East.
What other sector of the economy are we talking about?niederbomb wrote:TheOcho wrote:Not to be contrarian, but there are plenty of economists who will argue our economic "recovery" has been entirely artificial. There has been no fundamental change in the capital structure of the economy and when stimulus stops and interest rates are allowed to return to market levels we will have another housing-like crash in a different sector of the economy. I sure hope I'm wrong, but it's a real possibility.niederbomb wrote:I think the only concerns regarding the state of the economy are the current uprisings in North Africa/Middle East.
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