BruceWayne wrote:I'm not going to say too much about this post but...
FYI Skadden is definitely not one of the harder NYC firms to get. In fact they may be the easiest of the "big time" NYC firms to break into. The hardest are generally considered to be Wachtell, Sullivan, Cleary, and Cravath.
And the bolded just isn't true for anything other than NYC law firm hiring. For anything else it's essentially HYS and then the rest of the top 14 is going to vary by region/grades. I know it seems hard to believe now, but there are legal career paths other than working in a big NYC firm--contrary to popular TLS belief.
This is, for the most part, true. I would further posit that what schools are better than others actually can very employer-by-employer.
Definitely - it was pointed out to me that even for a school like UVA, you can be at an advantage with some firms such as King and Spalding who have large alumni networks because they're based in the south. As far as Skadden, yeah I had thought they were in that group. If they're among the easiest with that class size... fun times lie ahead for those of us planning on doing corporate transactional work.
It's obviously silly to say that every firm has an identical profile they look for, or an identical approach to hiring. But what you seem to be proposing here is that for a firm such as King and Spalding, two schools such as Michigan and NYU, neither of which I'm guessing have particularly strong alumni networks within the firm, will be viewed in essentially the same light.
If this is the proposal, I guess I'd like to know on what basis we're going to claim it. I (demonstrably) have at best a tenuous understanding of how these firms are conducting their searches. But your idea that non-New York firms all have a view of the non-HYS T14 that completely scrambles the existing rankings is to me a rather forward position based on everything else I've heard. Basically, what is your basis for saying that?
It's easy to knock down the TLS received wisdom as baseless internet parroting of rankings and statistics. But for people who are attempting to choose between sticker and scholarships at T6 schools and MVP, or MVP and Cornell, it's necessary to take somewhat of a macro view as to how these schools are viewed. If that macro view is wrong, then those of us approaching this choice need to understand how it is wrong.