Prestige of Penn vs. Duke vs. Cornell

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Re: Prestige of Penn vs. Duke vs. Cornell

Postby johnnyutah » Sun Feb 06, 2011 1:52 pm

Veyron wrote:Duke: More prestigious in the south and with basketball fans

Depends on the basketball fan.

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Note: Duke is one of the few schools that would actually get me to scream full-throated support for UK.

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Re: Prestige of Penn vs. Duke vs. Cornell

Postby ahduth » Sun Feb 06, 2011 2:19 pm

Veyron wrote:Duke: More prestigious in the south and with basketball fans
Penn: More prestigious in the north, with the educated, and with businessmen
Cornell: More prestigious in upstate New York and in the hotel industry


Don't hate.

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Re: Prestige of Penn vs. Duke vs. Cornell

Postby Ignatius Reilly » Sun Feb 06, 2011 3:03 pm

Bosque wrote:
Ignatius Reilly wrote:Duke has more dbags than any other school in the country. This is a serious drawback.

Michigan ftw


What the f*$^ did I/we ever do to you?


Nothing, I stay away from dbags :lol:

Duke students tend to have an inferiority complex....Michigan tends to have hot women.

Wtf is a BETA?

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Re: Prestige of Penn vs. Duke vs. Cornell

Postby ScrabbleChamp » Sun Feb 06, 2011 3:18 pm

ahduth wrote:
Veyron wrote:Duke: More prestigious in the south and with basketball fans
Penn: More prestigious in the north, with the educated, and with businessmen
Cornell: More prestigious in upstate New York and in the hotel industry


Don't hate.


That wasn't hating... Cornell has the best Hotel Administration program in the country...

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Re: Prestige of Penn vs. Duke vs. Cornell

Postby NorCalBruin » Sun Feb 06, 2011 3:32 pm

I agree with the person who said that out west:

1. Cornell... no one know's exactly where it is, they just know it's in the Ivy League, so it's gotta be good.
2. Duke... everyone know's about the basketball team, but they also at least know it's a prestigious private school.
3. Penn... often confused for Penn State, and when it's not, most just think it's a flagship public school.

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Re: Prestige of Penn vs. Duke vs. Cornell

Postby qed2011 » Sun Feb 06, 2011 3:37 pm

I take the school opinions of people who write "know's" highly.

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Re: Prestige of Penn vs. Duke vs. Cornell

Postby whitman » Sun Feb 06, 2011 3:42 pm

Another important consideration is cost of attendance.

Estimated COA for three years:

Penn: $204,450
Duke: $200,814
Cornell: $217,140

Uh yeah...definitely cross Cornell off that list.
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Re: Prestige of Penn vs. Duke vs. Cornell

Postby whitman » Sun Feb 06, 2011 3:43 pm

Ignatius Reilly wrote:
Bosque wrote:
Ignatius Reilly wrote:Duke has more dbags than any other school in the country. This is a serious drawback.

Michigan ftw


What the f*$^ did I/we ever do to you?


Nothing, I stay away from dbags :lol:

Duke students tend to have an inferiority complex....Michigan tends to have hot women.

Wtf is a BETA?


Yeah...where are you getting this from? Michigan tends to have hot women? This might be right, but I've never heard that. If you're going for hot women, I would suggest UVA, Vandy, Texas, UCLA?

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Re: Prestige of Penn vs. Duke vs. Cornell

Postby johnnyutah » Sun Feb 06, 2011 4:01 pm

Ignatius Reilly wrote:Wtf is a BETA?


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Re: Prestige of Penn vs. Duke vs. Cornell

Postby Bosque » Sun Feb 06, 2011 4:01 pm

Ignatius Reilly wrote:
Bosque wrote:
Ignatius Reilly wrote:Duke has more dbags than any other school in the country. This is a serious drawback.

Michigan ftw


What the f*$^ did I/we ever do to you?


Nothing, I stay away from dbags :lol:

Duke students tend to have an inferiority complex....Michigan tends to have hot women.

Wtf is a BETA?


Inferiority complex? I'm not the one blindly attacking another school in order to inflate my pathetically small ego. I actually like most of the Michigan students I have met (present company of course, excluded). Why the hell are you so threatened by us?

Stop trollin'.

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Re: Prestige of Penn vs. Duke vs. Cornell

Postby beachbum » Sun Feb 06, 2011 4:10 pm

As a future Duke student, I can attest to my massively inflated sense of superiority.

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Re: Prestige of Penn vs. Duke vs. Cornell

Postby die Zauberflote » Sun Feb 06, 2011 4:28 pm

I don't see how lay prestige is ever really relevant. For instance, my grandmother almost had a heart attack when I told her that I had been accepted to Vanderbilt. But when I told her that I'd been offered a large scholarship from Michigan she just said, "Well, they're no Vandy...I can tell you that right now." I also have friends who are more impressed by my University of Kentucky acceptance than by my UVA. It's all very silly.

Long story short, I'd visit all three schools and go with the one that feels like the best fit. That's what I plan on doing.

p.s. Ignatius Reilly, can you take your lute over to this thread and pluck me out a second opinion: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=106319&start=525 .

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Re: Prestige of Penn vs. Duke vs. Cornell

Postby glacierfrost » Sun Feb 06, 2011 4:58 pm

So it just comes back down to what OP is asking...which is about lay prestige. The answer is, it depends on where you're from. Also, once you're an actual lawyer and in the field, the ones hiring you will already know the pecking order within relative prestige (with MV > CG for example), so lay prestige doesn't even matter anymore.

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Re: Prestige of Penn vs. Duke vs. Cornell

Postby Veyron » Sun Feb 06, 2011 5:28 pm

Depends on the basketball fan.


Very true, the loathing I feel for Duke basketball compels me to place them one rung below Cooley in my personal prestige ranking. . . fuck their US News score.

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Re: Prestige of Penn vs. Duke vs. Cornell

Postby AreJay711 » Sun Feb 06, 2011 5:34 pm

beachbum wrote:You might as well skip the conversation on prestige and go straight to the job prospects (numbers). And while I'm not sure what your career goals are, it seems that Duke and Penn tend to have marginally better placement than Cornell. All else being equal, go with whichever of those two better suits your goals/personality/lifestyle/feng shui.


Actually, I'd say there is a distinction to be made. Duke opens the possibility of working in the south to people without ties which is something to consider. Of course, overall placement is similar and Penn does allow student to take classes at Wharton.

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Re: Prestige of Penn vs. Duke vs. Cornell

Postby Ignatius Reilly » Sun Feb 06, 2011 5:50 pm

1) I am not at michigan, but in my UG years I have been at many campuses. Michigan has the most attractive women out of any of the T14. End discussion.

2) To those of you at Duke who are getting so excited because I said duke is a school for dbags, relax. This is the internet. Duke students tend to have an over estimation of self worth.

Have any of you ever been to Ann Arbor? I would go to Michigan over any school excepting H&Y.

Michigans graduate programs are unbelievable, as is their business school and law school. People who matter know that michigan is one hell of a school, but for those of you who are trying to get laid by impressing people with your law school go to Cornell. For those of you who like unattractive bitchy women go to Duke.


This is just one man's internet opinion, so calm down.

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Re: Prestige of Penn vs. Duke vs. Cornell

Postby johnnyutah » Sun Feb 06, 2011 5:51 pm

Ignatius Reilly wrote:Have any of you ever been to Ann Arbor? I would go to Michigan over any school excepting H&Y.

It's too cold there, and I don't like college towns.

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Re: Prestige of Penn vs. Duke vs. Cornell

Postby r6_philly » Sun Feb 06, 2011 5:52 pm

Ignatius Reilly wrote: graduate programs are unbelievable, as is their business school and law school.


This statement works better for Penn ;)

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Re: Prestige of Penn vs. Duke vs. Cornell

Postby johnnyutah » Sun Feb 06, 2011 5:53 pm

r6_philly wrote:
Ignatius Reilly wrote: graduate programs are unbelievable, as is their business school and law school.


This statement works better for Penn ;)

Truth :mrgreen:

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Re: Prestige of Penn vs. Duke vs. Cornell

Postby dr123 » Sun Feb 06, 2011 5:53 pm

Ignatius Reilly wrote:Have any of you ever been to Ann Arbor? I would go to Michigan over any school excepting H&Y.



A2's alright. I grew up there so I know the town very well and I really don't see what all the fuss is about. It's not even the best college town in the big 10, imo
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Re: Prestige of Penn vs. Duke vs. Cornell

Postby Ignatius Reilly » Sun Feb 06, 2011 5:54 pm

johnnyutah wrote:
Ignatius Reilly wrote:Have any of you ever been to Ann Arbor? I would go to Michigan over any school excepting H&Y.

It's too cold there, and I don't like college towns.



talking about the ladies. But I can see that I dont want to go to law school in a city, cause a man cant walk around late at night without getting his ass robbed

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Re: Prestige of Penn vs. Duke vs. Cornell

Postby r6_philly » Sun Feb 06, 2011 5:56 pm

Ignatius Reilly wrote:talking about the ladies. But I can see that I dont want to go to law school in a city, cause a man cant walk around late at night without getting his ass robbed


How can you checkout the ladies well if they are all wrapped up 8 months of the year?

And a man won't get his ass robbed.

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Re: Prestige of Penn vs. Duke vs. Cornell

Postby Veyron » Sun Feb 06, 2011 5:59 pm

I don't understand all of the lay prestige you Midwestern seem to ascribe to Cornell. I've never heard of it referred to as anything but the caboose of the ivy league or a quasi state school.

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Re: Prestige of Penn vs. Duke vs. Cornell

Postby BruceWayne » Sun Feb 06, 2011 5:59 pm

Penn and Duke are clearly stronger than Cornell for anything outside of NYC law firm work so drop Cornell. Penn and Duke basically have the same career prospects, so go to Penn since they have an ungraded Legal Research and Writing class for 1L while Duke's is graded.

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Re: Prestige of Penn vs. Duke vs. Cornell

Postby r6_philly » Sun Feb 06, 2011 6:00 pm

Veyron wrote:I don't understand all of the lay prestige you Midwestern seem to ascribe to Cornell. I've never heard of it referred to as anything but the caboose of the ivy league or a quasi state school.


TBF when I was away from Philly, lay people know Cornell after HYP, over Columbia and Penn.




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