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Duke over MP

Postby fyr22 » Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:08 pm

I want to choose Duke over Mich and Penn. I just dont feel there is academical or career difference between them. So I choose what feels best. Who thinks its a wrong thing to do? Is there a gap between them? Money is not an issue.
No dooking please. Thanks.
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Re: Duke over MP

Postby FlanAl » Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:11 pm

you should look through a guy named quakeroats posts. he pretty much exclusively argues that duke is the best thing ever especially in comparison to UVa and Michigan

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Re: Duke over MP

Postby BruceWayne » Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:12 pm

There's nothing wrong with it but keep in mind that Duke has graded Legal research and writing program while it's Pass/Fail at Michigan and Penn.

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Re: Duke over MP

Postby St.Remy » Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:12 pm

FlanAl wrote:you should look through a guy named quakeroats posts. he pretty much exclusively argues that duke is the best thing ever especially in comparison to UVa and Michigan


He even has totally legitimate numbers from reliable sources to back that point of view up.

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Re: Duke over MP

Postby calilaw » Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:13 pm

fyr22 wrote:I want to choose Duke over Mich and Penn. Who thinks its a wrong thing to do? Is there a gap between them? Money is not an issue.
Thanks.


If that's what you want, go to Duke. I don't think the differences are so compelling that you should go against a personal preference.

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Re: Duke over MP

Postby bk1 » Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:13 pm

I'd say there's a decent, but small gap between them. Others may disagree.

That being said, if you'd truly be happier at Duke then go Duke. The difference isn't so large that you'd be insane to take Duke over MP. If you'd be happier, you'd probably do better in school and that would easily make up any possible difference between the schools.

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Re: Duke over MP

Postby Shooter » Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:16 pm

The difference between Duke and MP is marginal. Go where you feel comfortable, as this will improve your ability to do well.

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Re: Duke over MP

Postby law_monkey » Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:37 pm

Interested in this as well. I'm in at NYU and Penn but seriously considering Duke.

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Re: Duke over MP

Postby Reedie » Wed Jan 12, 2011 7:26 pm

I think that if you look at incoming class medians, employment stats, etc... you will see a great big logjam of Penn, Virginia, Michigan and Duke. I think Northwestern and Berkeley are distinct enough (which is not to say better or worse) in terms of their culture and admissions criteria to be really distinguishable from those four. But, so far as I can tell, those four schools seem to be competing for the same students, and offering them very similar outcomes. Michigan may be a *touch* more forgiving in terms of numbers (which is to say they may be slight more willing to consider other factors).

So, I think choosing between these schools based on rankings or statistics is generally not very sensible. Which means picking based on what you like is entirely sensible.

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Re: Duke over MP

Postby Bronte » Wed Jan 12, 2011 7:32 pm

Go for it. There's no discernible difference in prospects between the schools.

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Re: Duke over MP

Postby rayiner » Wed Jan 12, 2011 7:39 pm

FWIW, Duke was more selective than MVP for C/O 2013. Better medians than Michigan on both counts, and slightly lower GPA medians than Penn/Virginia with substantially higher 25ths (166/3.55 for VP versus 168/3.68 for D). Clearly if the MVP > D distinction exists, the incoming students to the various schools don't seem to realize it.

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Re: Duke over MP

Postby clintonius » Wed Jan 12, 2011 7:40 pm

Where's our resident profaner of the memory of David Foster Wallace?

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Re: Duke over MP

Postby reversejinx » Wed Jan 12, 2011 7:56 pm

clintonius wrote:Where's our resident profaner of the memory of David Foster Wallace?


Man this needs an explanation...

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Re: Duke over MP

Postby 09042014 » Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:10 pm

If you want NYC penn probably has a measurable difference. But it's not huge.

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Re: Duke over MP

Postby clintonius » Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:19 pm

reversejinx wrote:
clintonius wrote:Where's our resident profaner of the memory of David Foster Wallace?


Man this needs an explanation...

this guy: memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=49603

is the most entertaining Duke troll around.

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Re: Duke over MP

Postby Flanker1067 » Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:25 pm

Desert Fox wrote:If you want NYC penn probably has a measurable difference. But it's not huge.


I think somebody did a little analysis once and concluded that more of the most prestigious firms (from NYC) interview at Penn, but that is the only reason they could be considered better that I can think of.

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Re: Duke over MP

Postby Bosque » Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:38 pm

I don't know about Michgan or Penn, but I know Duke does not have a GPA requirement (beyond your standard don't fail out clause) to keep scholarship money. Not something you ever want to have to worry about, but nice in case you screw up first semester.

Other than that, I know I like it and don't regret choosing to come here. School is fantastic. But I feel like I don't have to really tell you that. ;)

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Re: Duke over MP

Postby dabbadon8 » Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:39 pm

Bosque wrote:I don't know about Michgan or Penn, but I know Duke does not have a GPA requirement (beyond your standard don't fail out clause) to keep scholarship money. Not something you ever want to have to worry about, but nice in case you screw up first semester.

Other than that, I know I like it and don't regret choosing to come here. School is fantastic. But I feel like I don't have to really tell you that. ;)


Mich is the same. No stipulations on money except being enrolled and not failing out.

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Re: Duke over MP

Postby Bronte » Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:46 pm

dabbadon8 wrote:
Bosque wrote:I don't know about Michgan or Penn, but I know Duke does not have a GPA requirement (beyond your standard don't fail out clause) to keep scholarship money. Not something you ever want to have to worry about, but nice in case you screw up first semester.

Other than that, I know I like it and don't regret choosing to come here. School is fantastic. But I feel like I don't have to really tell you that. ;)


Mich is the same. No stipulations on money except being enrolled and not failing out.


Do any T14s have these stipulations?

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Re: Duke over MP

Postby Bosque » Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:50 pm

Bronte wrote:
dabbadon8 wrote:
Bosque wrote:I don't know about Michgan or Penn, but I know Duke does not have a GPA requirement (beyond your standard don't fail out clause) to keep scholarship money. Not something you ever want to have to worry about, but nice in case you screw up first semester.

Other than that, I know I like it and don't regret choosing to come here. School is fantastic. But I feel like I don't have to really tell you that. ;)


Mich is the same. No stipulations on money except being enrolled and not failing out.


Do any T14s have these stipulations?


I think Cornell does? Not sure.

EDIT: Looked it up, Cornell requires a 3.0 or above to keep a Scholly. Couldn't find anything specific about Michigan or Penn.
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Re: Duke over MP

Postby vamedic03 » Wed Jan 12, 2011 9:42 pm

fyr22 wrote:I want to choose Duke over Mich and Penn. I just dont feel there is academical or career difference between them. So I choose what feels best. Who thinks its a wrong thing to do? Is there a gap between them? Money is not an issue.
No dooking please. Thanks.


They're all peer schools - pick the one that's the best fit for you. Some people will fit better at Duke, some people will fit better at Mich or Penn.

Just don't buy the snake oil that quakeroats constantly tries to sell.

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Re: Duke over MP

Postby fyr22 » Fri Jan 14, 2011 6:33 pm

Thank you folks. Really glad that no trolls showed in this thread.

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Re: Duke over MP

Postby cornellbeez » Fri Jan 14, 2011 6:42 pm

vamedic03 wrote:
fyr22 wrote:I want to choose Duke over Mich and Penn. I just dont feel there is academical or career difference between them. So I choose what feels best. Who thinks its a wrong thing to do? Is there a gap between them? Money is not an issue.
No dooking please. Thanks.


They're all peer schools - pick the one that's the best fit for you. Some people will fit better at Duke, some people will fit better at Mich or Penn.

Just don't buy the snake oil that quakeroats constantly tries to sell.


This.

(just fyi, quakeroats doesn't know what he's talking about)

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Re: Duke over MP

Postby thecilent » Fri Jan 14, 2011 6:42 pm

Flame.

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Re: Duke over MP

Postby Bosque » Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:32 pm

thecilent wrote:Flame.


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Posts like this make me wish that feedback system had worked. I would love to rate this down.




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