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Re: OLD SCHOOL (must be 30 and over ITT)

Postby homestyle28 » Sat Oct 11, 2014 11:28 am

tblackpcb wrote:Just wanted to finally check in. I will be 40 soon and am beginning the application process. The hardest thing for me so far is that the only school within a reasonable distance is not at ALL reputable yet there is some difficulty in managing a different school with a family. Any advice?


There's a pretty limited set of circumstances where I'd say going to a school like FL coastal makes any sense. Would a JD further your current career? Do you have an established network such that you KNOW you'll have a job on graduation? If not then you have to consider taking the lumps and moving to a better school, especially if law school is a means to a career change.

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Re: OLD SCHOOL (must be 30 and over ITT)

Postby spleenworship » Sat Oct 11, 2014 6:27 pm

tblackpcb wrote:It is Florida Coastal.


Don't do it. Find a way to go to a better law school (there's like 2 decent and 2 barely acceptable choices in your state alone, because apparently Florida needs like 5,000,000,000,000 law schools for some fucking reason).

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Re: OLD SCHOOL (must be 30 and over ITT)

Postby tennactitans » Sat Oct 11, 2014 7:02 pm

spleenworship wrote:
tblackpcb wrote:It is Florida Coastal.


Don't do it. Find a way to go to a better law school (there's like 2 decent and 2 barely acceptable choices in your state alone, because apparently Florida needs like 5,000,000,000,000 law schools for some fucking reason).


Two decent: UF and FSU? Which are the barely acceptable? Miami and....

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Postby navykev » Sat Oct 11, 2014 7:18 pm

Checking in! 39 -- retiring after 20 years in the Navy -- headed to law school in 2015.

Accepted to WUSTL, UGA, Miami and Baylor so far. Originally from St. Louis -- so WUSTL is my top choice at the moment -- all though UGA seems like a really great place as well.

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Postby tennactitans » Sat Oct 11, 2014 7:25 pm

navykev wrote:Checking in! 39 -- retiring after 20 years in the Navy -- headed to law school in 2015.

Accepted to WUSTL, UGA, Miami and Baylor so far. Originally from St. Louis -- so WUSTL is my top choice at the moment -- all though UGA seems like a really great place as well.


Head down south, Master Chief. Time to relax.

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Postby elterrible78 » Sat Oct 11, 2014 7:25 pm

navykev wrote:Checking in! 39 -- retiring after 20 years in the Navy -- headed to law school in 2015.

Accepted to WUSTL, UGA, Miami and Baylor so far. Originally from St. Louis -- so WUSTL is my top choice at the moment -- all though UGA seems like a really great place as well.


Congrats, and good luck! What are you looking at doing with the degree?

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Re: OLD SCHOOL (must be 30 and over ITT)

Postby hous » Sat Oct 11, 2014 7:27 pm

I think going to law school is a pretty bad decision for 75% of those that go. I think its got to be a terrible mistake for 95% of those over 30. Its not worth the insane tuition and miserable job prospects (LOL jobs...). Whats worse than raising a family on 50k a year? Raising a family on 45k a year, working 70 hours a week, and being 200k in debt.

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Re: OLD SCHOOL (must be 30 and over ITT)

Postby patogordo » Sat Oct 11, 2014 7:28 pm

tennactitans wrote:
navykev wrote:Checking in! 39 -- retiring after 20 years in the Navy -- headed to law school in 2015.

Accepted to WUSTL, UGA, Miami and Baylor so far. Originally from St. Louis -- so WUSTL is my top choice at the moment -- all though UGA seems like a really great place as well.


Head down south, Master Chief. Time to relax.

seriously. start a consulting firm, cop some set-aside contracts, and enjoy some golf.

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Re: OLD SCHOOL (must be 30 and over ITT)

Postby navykev » Sat Oct 11, 2014 7:29 pm

tennactitans wrote:
navykev wrote:Checking in! 39 -- retiring after 20 years in the Navy -- headed to law school in 2015.

Accepted to WUSTL, UGA, Miami and Baylor so far. Originally from St. Louis -- so WUSTL is my top choice at the moment -- all though UGA seems like a really great place as well.


Head down south, Master Chief. Time to relax.


I do enjoy the weather!!!

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Re: OLD SCHOOL (must be 30 and over ITT)

Postby A. Nony Mouse » Sat Oct 11, 2014 7:32 pm

hous wrote:I think going to law school is a pretty bad decision for 75% of those that go. I think its got to be a terrible mistake for 95% of those over 30. Its not worth the insane tuition and miserable job prospects (LOL jobs...). Whats worse than raising a family on 50k a year? Raising a family on 45k a year, working 70 hours a week, and being 200k in debt.

Eh, I think it's a little unfair to say this unless you're actually over 30.

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Postby patogordo » Sat Oct 11, 2014 7:33 pm

yea it kinda does suck though.

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Re: OLD SCHOOL (must be 30 and over ITT)

Postby elterrible78 » Sat Oct 11, 2014 7:35 pm

A. Nony Mouse wrote:
hous wrote:I think going to law school is a pretty bad decision for 75% of those that go. I think its got to be a terrible mistake for 95% of those over 30. Its not worth the insane tuition and miserable job prospects (LOL jobs...). Whats worse than raising a family on 50k a year? Raising a family on 45k a year, working 70 hours a week, and being 200k in debt.

Eh, I think it's a little unfair to say this unless you're actually over 30.


And if it's in response to the 39-year-old retired Navy poster, there are probably a half dozen or so factors that Hous didn't even consider when posting this. In the most general sense, I agree with him, but sometimes the one-size-fits-all naysaying that goes on in here is a little much.

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Postby navykev » Sat Oct 11, 2014 7:36 pm

patogordo wrote:
tennactitans wrote:
navykev wrote:Checking in! 39 -- retiring after 20 years in the Navy -- headed to law school in 2015.

Accepted to WUSTL, UGA, Miami and Baylor so far. Originally from St. Louis -- so WUSTL is my top choice at the moment -- all though UGA seems like a really great place as well.


Head down south, Master Chief. Time to relax.

seriously. start a consulting firm, cop some set-aside contracts, and enjoy some golf.


Nah that'd be too easy -- I'd get bored after about a week! I can work for free -- so I get to chase all those pipe dream legal careers that people want to do but can't because they are impossible to get or don't pay anything!!!! If I can't find a job in a legal field I love, helping people -- I'll just make one! My military career was on the military's terms -- my legal career is on my terms! :)

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Re: OLD SCHOOL (must be 30 and over ITT)

Postby spleenworship » Sat Oct 11, 2014 7:38 pm

hous wrote:I think going to law school is a pretty bad decision for 75% of those that go. I think its got to be a terrible mistake for 95% of those over 30. Its not worth the insane tuition and miserable job prospects (LOL jobs...). Whats worse than raising a family on 50k a year? Raising a family on 45k a year, working 70 hours a week, and being 200k in debt.


Meh. 80% of the over 30s in my class got jobs, many starting at well over 45k. Did better on average than the 26 year olds did, on average.

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Re: OLD SCHOOL (must be 30 and over ITT)

Postby patogordo » Sat Oct 11, 2014 7:39 pm

160k/yr with 200k debt still kinda blows though

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Re: OLD SCHOOL (must be 30 and over ITT)

Postby spleenworship » Sat Oct 11, 2014 7:42 pm

patogordo wrote:160k/yr with 200k debt still kinda blows though

This is true.

Personally, I still only recommend going if you actually really want to be a lawyer.

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Re: OLD SCHOOL (must be 30 and over ITT)

Postby navykev » Sat Oct 11, 2014 7:47 pm

elterrible78 wrote:
A. Nony Mouse wrote:
hous wrote:I think going to law school is a pretty bad decision for 75% of those that go. I think its got to be a terrible mistake for 95% of those over 30. Its not worth the insane tuition and miserable job prospects (LOL jobs...). Whats worse than raising a family on 50k a year? Raising a family on 45k a year, working 70 hours a week, and being 200k in debt.

Eh, I think it's a little unfair to say this unless you're actually over 30.


And if it's in response to the 39-year-old retired Navy poster, there are probably a half dozen or so factors that Hous didn't even consider when posting this. In the most general sense, I agree with him, but sometimes the one-size-fits-all naysaying that goes on in here is a little much.


Yeah if it was directed at me -- he clearly didn't do his research! Us military folks -- go to law school for free.

I'm being condescending above not to be a jerk but to prove a point -- most advice on here is decent and should be considered -- but each of us have our reasons and own circumstance. I hope no one is ever convinced by this board alone not to go to law school. Especially the ones on this thread that have a little more life experience behind us.
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Re: OLD SCHOOL (must be 30 and over ITT)

Postby tennactitans » Sat Oct 11, 2014 7:50 pm

You guys are missing his point. A retired E9 doesn't have to worry about getting a high paying job. He's going to go to a comfortable school, graduate cum laude (because he knows what work is) then put in whatever amount of effort he feels like. _ _CM- I say you get the degree then bail to the islands.

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Postby navykev » Sat Oct 11, 2014 7:59 pm

elterrible78 wrote:
navykev wrote:Checking in! 39 -- retiring after 20 years in the Navy -- headed to law school in 2015.

Accepted to WUSTL, UGA, Miami and Baylor so far. Originally from St. Louis -- so WUSTL is my top choice at the moment -- all though UGA seems like a really great place as well.


Congrats, and good luck! What are you looking at doing with the degree?



Thanks -- humanitarian/human rights type stuff -- I'll work for free if I have to in order to do something I am passionate about. I am very fortunate to be financially secure -- money is not an issue for me. I just want to have a challenging and intellectually stimulating law school experience and then go do something I am passionate about until I die. I'll never retire -- I get bored to easily!
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Re: OLD SCHOOL (must be 30 and over ITT)

Postby A. Nony Mouse » Sat Oct 11, 2014 7:59 pm

patogordo wrote:160k/yr with 200k debt still kinda blows though

I never said it was a great idea, just not any worse for 30+s than for under-30s.

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Postby patogordo » Sat Oct 11, 2014 8:00 pm

A. Nony Mouse wrote:
patogordo wrote:160k/yr with 200k debt still kinda blows though

I never said it was a great idea, just not any worse for 30+s than for under-30s.

i think id be marginally less depressed if i were under 30

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Postby A. Nony Mouse » Sat Oct 11, 2014 8:03 pm

patogordo wrote:
A. Nony Mouse wrote:
patogordo wrote:160k/yr with 200k debt still kinda blows though

I never said it was a great idea, just not any worse for 30+s than for under-30s.

i think id be marginally less depressed if i were under 30

grass is always greener.

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Re: OLD SCHOOL (must be 30 and over ITT)

Postby spleenworship » Sat Oct 11, 2014 8:03 pm

patogordo wrote:
A. Nony Mouse wrote:
patogordo wrote:160k/yr with 200k debt still kinda blows though

I never said it was a great idea, just not any worse for 30+s than for under-30s.

i think id be marginally less depressed if i were under 30


Don't lie to yourself. You'd probably be more depressed because you would have nothing real or shitty to compare this shittyness to.

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Postby navykev » Sat Oct 11, 2014 8:10 pm

spleenworship wrote:
patogordo wrote:
A. Nony Mouse wrote:
patogordo wrote:160k/yr with 200k debt still kinda blows though

I never said it was a great idea, just not any worse for 30+s than for under-30s.

i think id be marginally less depressed if i were under 30


Don't lie to yourself. You'd probably be more depressed because you would have nothing real or shitty to compare this shittyness to.


I do have to admit -- that amount of debt is crazy!
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Re: OLD SCHOOL (must be 30 and over ITT)

Postby patogordo » Sat Oct 11, 2014 8:11 pm

lol i'm a veteran

definitely killing myself now



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