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Re: ABA actually warns against law school

Post by ClayDavis » Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:15 pm

Yet I'm sure we'll get 3 or 4 new provisionally-accredited shitschools within the next 5 years.

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Re: ABA actually warns against law school

Post by bk1 » Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:18 pm

I like how the CNBC article ends on a positive note of some Rutgers chick getting a job.

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Re: ABA actually warns against law school

Post by BlueDiamond » Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:21 pm

ClayDavis wrote:Yet I'm sure we'll get 3 or 4 new provisionally-accredited shitschools within the next 5 years.
I've already started to draft a letter I'm planning on sending to the University of Delaware administration about how theyre basically just stealing from anyone who attends. If Binghamton decides to also Ill send one there as well.

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Re: ABA actually warns against law school

Post by Grizz » Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:25 pm

Nightrunner wrote:(perhaps tempering our prevailing optimism).
You're still optimistic?

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Re: ABA actually warns against law school

Post by ClayDavis » Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:26 pm

BlueDiamond wrote:
ClayDavis wrote:Yet I'm sure we'll get 3 or 4 new provisionally-accredited shitschools within the next 5 years.
I've already started to draft a letter I'm planning on sending to the University of Delaware administration about how theyre basically just stealing from anyone who attends. If Binghamton decides to also Ill send one there as well.
Make it one of those electronic petition things; I bet you could get a shitload of people to sign.

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Re: ABA actually warns against law school

Post by BlueDiamond » Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:26 pm

Nightrunner wrote:
BlueDiamond wrote:
ClayDavis wrote:Yet I'm sure we'll get 3 or 4 new provisionally-accredited shitschools within the next 5 years.
I've already started to draft a letter I'm planning on sending to the University of Delaware administration about how theyre basically just stealing from anyone who attends. If Binghamton decides to also Ill send one there as well.
I suppose you could say the same thing about most places. The administration is basically stealing from the below-median students at 90% of our law schools.
I just figured it might do more good than trying to get a school already in operation to close haha.. It's more for self satisfaction than anything.. and of course my hopes for a response e-mail to post here

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Re: ABA actually warns against law school

Post by BlueDiamond » Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:28 pm

ClayDavis wrote:
BlueDiamond wrote:
ClayDavis wrote:Yet I'm sure we'll get 3 or 4 new provisionally-accredited shitschools within the next 5 years.
I've already started to draft a letter I'm planning on sending to the University of Delaware administration about how theyre basically just stealing from anyone who attends. If Binghamton decides to also Ill send one there as well.
Make it one of those electronic petition things; I bet you could get a shitload of people to sign.
Actually not a terrible idea.. I'll do it tonight

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Re: ABA actually warns against law school

Post by minuit » Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:28 pm

the ABA should take some pointers from the AMA.

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Post by piccolittle » Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:35 pm

This was way too long in coming. The UK's Law Society published a warning of its own volition on this topic years ago. The ABA only did this after years of pressure and the embarrassment of new law schools opening while most young lawyers remain unemployed.

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Re: ABA actually warns against law school

Post by TheBigMediocre » Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:37 pm

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Re: ABA actually warns against law school

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TheBigMediocre wrote:[lolgraph]
Someone made the red dot way too big.

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Re: ABA actually warns against law school

Post by BlueDiamond » Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:40 pm

sadly true.. most people I'm in undergrad with right now just want to get an LSAT high enough to go to the local state law school which is a Tier 3.. nothing wrong with it, except that many don't know that they will come out jobless or with a job that pays poorly

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Re: ABA actually warns against law school

Post by Ragged » Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:44 pm

Going to T-17 is probably still justified though.

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Re: ABA actually warns against law school

Post by ClayDavis » Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:45 pm

TheBigMediocre wrote:Image
Of course titcr. Far too little, far too late. If the ABA could shut down 150 law schools, or even 50, this would mean something. As is, the effect will be almost zero.

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Re: ABA actually warns against law school

Post by bk1 » Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:45 pm

Ragged wrote:Going to T-17 is probably still justified though.
At sticker?

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Re: ABA actually warns against law school

Post by ClayDavis » Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:46 pm

Ragged wrote:Going to T-17 is probably still justified though.
Maybe with a monster scholarship and/or a job lined up.

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Post by TheBigMediocre » Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:47 pm

I'm a 1L at a t-25 and I'm seriously considering cutting my losses now and doing something else.

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Re: ABA actually warns against law school

Post by ClayDavis » Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:48 pm

TheBigMediocre wrote:I'm a 1L at a t-25 and I'm seriously considering cutting my losses now and doing something else.
Grades?

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Re: ABA actually warns against law school

Post by Ragged » Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:52 pm

bk187 wrote:
Ragged wrote:Going to T-17 is probably still justified though.
At sticker?
That would depend on where in the T-17 we are talking. Top half I would say yes, bottom half would require a good scholly.

I just don't see going to one of the the top 10% of all institutions in any profession being such a bad idea.

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Re: ABA actually warns against law school

Post by bk1 » Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:52 pm

Nightrunner wrote:I wouldn't pay sticker for anything but YHS, personally.
I generally agree with this sentiment. It pretty much takes a full tuition (or close to it) scholarship anywhere else to be a reasonable financial decision.

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Re: ABA actually warns against law school

Post by TheBigMediocre » Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:53 pm

ClayDavis wrote:
TheBigMediocre wrote:I'm a 1L at a t-25 and I'm seriously considering cutting my losses now and doing something else.
Grades?
Currently unknown except for booking one midterm (that counted for half of the semester grade). If I'm not top 10%-20% at the end of the year, I'll leave.

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Re: ABA actually warns against law school

Post by bk1 » Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:53 pm

Ragged wrote:I just don't see going to one of the the top 10% of all institutions in any profession being such a bad idea.
Sadly, it is definitely possible to be a bad idea for law school.

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Re: ABA actually warns against law school

Post by user08132021 » Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:54 pm

Meh, get a paralegal certificate

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Re: ABA actually warns against law school

Post by Ragged » Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:54 pm

bk187 wrote:
Nightrunner wrote:I wouldn't pay sticker for anything but YHS, personally.
I generally agree with this sentiment. It pretty much takes a full tuition (or close to it) scholarship anywhere else to be a reasonable financial decision.
Going to CCN with a small/no scholarship is not reasonable? Please...

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Re: ABA actually warns against law school

Post by D. H2Oman » Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:56 pm

Article does not factor in the high quality of lawyers are generally known to have.

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