Which market is best?

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SHANbangs
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Which market is best?

Postby SHANbangs » Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:57 pm

A lot of ppl ask for help on deciding between schools in totally different markets. Invariably, the answer is "where do you want to practice?" But speaking for myself, aside from family and maybe location/quality of life preferences, I'm not sure where I want to practice. So perhaps a better question is... How would you rank the legal markets? This might actually be a pretty complicated question. For example, what are the most competitive markets, which ones have the most jobs/best employment prospectives, etc. Also, comparing similar cases but in different markets ie. is it better to go Fordham for NYC when you have NYU and Columbia as competitors, or is it better to go GW in DC when you have GULC as top dog?

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Re: Which market is best?

Postby framboozer » Thu Dec 23, 2010 3:55 am

I don't know what type or level (Big, mid, etc.) of law you want to practice, nor do I know your stats, but I can tell you some things I've picked up. Georgetown is the local top dog in D.C., but D.C. draws from all over the country. It's gonna be drawing from all over the the T14. Many even say that UVA is the real local top dog. While it's not located in D.C., D.C. is the closest big market, and you better believe most UVA grads aren't sticking around in Charlottesville. Basically GW has a lot more competition than just GULC. I've heard that NYC is easier to crack than D.C., because there are a lot more opportunities there in general. Although I cannot confirm that, it does make sense to me.

If you really feel like you can live anywhere in the country and your numbers aren't competitive for the T14 and you're not set on big law, then maybe you should consider a smaller market where you'll have less national and local competition. For example, University of Minnesota is top dog in the Twin Cities, and there you'd be at least a little less likely to be competing with the T14. In the case of Philadelphia where Penn is, well, most people don't go to Penn to live in Philadelphia, they temporarily relocate to Philadelphia to go to Penn, and then head to New York or maybe D.C. afterwards. Therefore, there is still good respect for the Philadelphia area's other two law schools Villanova and Temple, both T2's.

But you do have to take everyone's ideas with a grain of salt, since we don't know your personal information.

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Re: Which market is best?

Postby concurrent fork » Thu Dec 23, 2010 12:50 pm

SHANbangs wrote:What are the most competitive markets

DC, Chi, and SF, in my experience. Also smaller markets are always competitive if you lack connections.
SHANbangs wrote:Which ones have the most jobs/best employment prospectives

NYC hands down. Even if you have no desire to work in NYC it is advisable to allocate some bids there anyway.
SHANbangs wrote:Also, comparing similar cases but in different markets ie. is it better to go Fordham for NYC when you have NYU and Columbia as competitors, or is it better to go GW in DC when you have GULC as top dog?

If you are asking which has better biglaw placement, off the top of my head I think GW is slightly better. Also it will be easier to go from GW --> NYC than it will be to go from Fordham --> DC. All things being equal, if your options are Fordham vs. GW, I would take GW.

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Re: Which market is best?

Postby Informative » Tue Dec 28, 2010 6:46 pm

LOL. You know you are a 0L if you say New York city. Sure, there are a lot of jobs in NYC, but do you have any idea how many lawyers there are applying to those jobs? Yeah, New York city has the best job prospects right now. Lol.

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Re: Which market is best?

Postby BrownBears09 » Tue Dec 28, 2010 6:52 pm

Informative wrote:LOL. You know you are a 0L if you say New York city. Sure, there are a lot of jobs in NYC, but do you have any idea how many lawyers there are applying to those jobs? Yeah, New York city has the best job prospects right now. Lol.

Your statement is quite ironic considering your post from April 5, 2010:
Informative wrote:I've narrowed my choices to these two schools and am curious responses. I am positive I want to practice in the northeast, and likely want to work in Boston. I am not a huge fan of LA, though I don't mind northern California. I would be non-resident in Cali so lets assume costs are the same at both schools. Which would you choose and why?


So, what was that again? "You know you are a 0L if?"

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Re: Which market is best?

Postby concurrent fork » Tue Dec 28, 2010 7:21 pm

Damn you caught me...I thought I could sneak in my 0L advice but you were too keen.

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Re: Which market is best?

Postby FlightoftheEarls » Tue Dec 28, 2010 7:27 pm

Informative wrote:LOL. You know you are a 0L if you say New York city. Sure, there are a lot of jobs in NYC, but do you have any idea how many lawyers there are applying to those jobs? Yeah, New York city has the best job prospects right now. Lol.

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Re: Which market is best?

Postby hokie » Tue Dec 28, 2010 7:37 pm

I like Whole Foods but it is a little pricey. Trader Joe's is pretty good too

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Re: Which market is best?

Postby DukeCornell » Tue Dec 28, 2010 7:46 pm

hokie wrote:I like Whole Foods but it is a little pricey. Trader Joe's is pretty good too


:lol:

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Re: Which market is best?

Postby ogurty » Tue Dec 28, 2010 8:44 pm

Informative wrote:LOL. You know you are a 0L if you say New York city. Sure, there are a lot of jobs in NYC, but do you have any idea how many lawyers there are applying to those jobs? Yeah, New York city has the best job prospects right now. Lol.


Boy, you really learned a lot in your first semester of lawl school huh?

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Re: Which market is best?

Postby johnnyutah » Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:16 pm

Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.

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Re: Which market is best?

Postby goldeneagle » Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:22 pm

thread successfully derailed

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Re: Which market is best?

Postby XxSpyKEx » Wed Dec 29, 2010 8:34 pm

I'm lost. Is this thread about which beer is best? If so, then for domestic beers I'm going to have to go with coors. Very smooth, always refreshing, and doesn't fill you up so you can get drunk quicker.

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Re: Which market is best?

Postby apollo13 » Wed Dec 29, 2010 11:58 pm

lol
good move. flamed

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Re: Which market is best?

Postby Let1Equal0 » Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:23 pm

retake




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