Why isn't Georgetown ranked higher?

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Why isn't Georgetown ranked higher?

Postby Lovely Ludwig Van » Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:22 pm

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Re: Why isn't Georgetown ranked higher?

Postby bk1 » Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:23 pm

Specialty rankings don't mean shit.

Lay prestige doesn't mean anything.

Everywhere has amazing faculty.

Being in DC is irrelevant.

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Re: Why isn't Georgetown ranked higher?

Postby bostlaw » Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:24 pm

U$ New$ u$e$ a funny $y$tem of ranking

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Re: Why isn't Georgetown ranked higher?

Postby Mike12188 » Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:24 pm

FWIW It's #1 in my book!

Only place I got in so far :oops:

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Re: Why isn't Georgetown ranked higher?

Postby sophia.olive » Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:24 pm

Lovely Ludwig Van wrote:Silly question, I know. But still, I would like to hear what people think. From USNWR, Georgetown is ranked first in clinical training, sixth in environmental law, seventh in healthcare law, third in international law, first in part-time law, second in tax law, and fifth in trial advocacy, which puts it top 10 in 7 of the 10 USNWR subcategories. It has great lay prestige, famous faculty, and it's in the middle of bloody Washington DC for crying out loud. So how come it's only ranked 14th overall?

lol

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Re: Why isn't Georgetown ranked higher?

Postby 2Serious4Numbers » Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:25 pm

Gentlemen, please secure your rifles. It's trollin' season

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Re: Why isn't Georgetown ranked higher?

Postby bk1 » Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:27 pm

2Serious4Numbers wrote:Gentlemen, please secure your rifles. It's trollin' season


:lol: :lol:

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Re: Why isn't Georgetown ranked higher?

Postby BruceWayne » Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:34 pm

bk1 wrote:Specialty rankings don't mean shit.

Lay prestige doesn't mean anything.

Everywhere has amazing faculty.

Being in DC is irrelevant.


Some of this reasoning is a bit off. Location actually plays a large part in the rankings--that's one of the main reasons why NYU is ranked so highly. On top of that, not every school has amazing faculty. NYU's faculty is one of the main reasons (if not the main reason) why they jumped into the top 6 of US News and stayed there. Berkeley's ranking is largely a result of their stellar faculty as well.

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Re: Why isn't Georgetown ranked higher?

Postby dood » Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:35 pm

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Re: Why isn't Georgetown ranked higher?

Postby magicman554 » Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:35 pm

I'll be thongin' out in G-Town next fall!! That's iff I turn down UVA...

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Re: Why isn't Georgetown ranked higher?

Postby bk1 » Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:41 pm

BruceWayne wrote:Some of this reasoning is a bit off. Location actually plays a large part in the rankings--that's one of the main reasons why NYU is ranked so highly. On top of that, not every school has amazing faculty. NYU's faculty is one of the main reasons (if not the main reason) why they jumped into the top 6 of US News and stayed there. Berkeley's ranking is largely a result of their stellar faculty as well.


These would be reasons why Georgetown is 14 and not 25 or 30, but not reasons why Georgetown is 14 and not 12 or 6 or 8.

I'm not saying they are truly irrelevant to GULC's ranking as a whole, what I am saying is that they are not pertinent to GULC making small, incremental steps up within the T14.

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Re: Why isn't Georgetown ranked higher?

Postby dextermorgan » Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:41 pm

Because there are 13 schools that game the rankings better.

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Re: Why isn't Georgetown ranked higher?

Postby BruceWayne » Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:45 pm

dextermorgan wrote:Because there are 13 schools that game the rankings better.


This is the real reason since US News really doesn't make employment prospects a big part of the rankings. The main thing they use is LSAT/GPA ratios, selectivity, and faculty quality. It just happens that those factors correlate pretty well with career prospects--until you get into the top 17 schools--where their correlation drops a bit.

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Re: Why isn't Georgetown ranked higher?

Postby Lovely Ludwig Van » Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:55 pm

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Re: Why isn't Georgetown ranked higher?

Postby bk1 » Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:56 pm

Lovely Ludwig Van wrote:LOL. Yeah, I know, huh? That was pretty funny, wasn't it. Funny enough to go through the trouble of underlining that shit, typing 'lol,' and hitting 'submit.' You know, there is such a thing as a constructive response and there are people on this site who give it. For a user w/ 900 posts of experience, you sure are a wealth of information.


Use your brain and try to figure out why Yale, Harvard, and Stanford's part time programs aren't ranked better than Georgetown's.

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Re: Why isn't Georgetown ranked higher?

Postby InLikeFlint » Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:58 pm

bk1 wrote:
Lovely Ludwig Van wrote:LOL. Yeah, I know, huh? That was pretty funny, wasn't it. Funny enough to go through the trouble of underlining that shit, typing 'lol,' and hitting 'submit.' You know, there is such a thing as a constructive response and there are people on this site who give it. For a user w/ 900 posts of experience, you sure are a wealth of information.


Use your brain and try to figure out why Yale, Harvard, and Stanford's part time programs aren't ranked better than Georgetown's.


lol

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Re: Why isn't Georgetown ranked higher?

Postby NZA » Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:58 pm

bk1 wrote:
Lovely Ludwig Van wrote:LOL. Yeah, I know, huh? That was pretty funny, wasn't it. Funny enough to go through the trouble of underlining that shit, typing 'lol,' and hitting 'submit.' You know, there is such a thing as a constructive response and there are people on this site who give it. For a user w/ 900 posts of experience, you sure are a wealth of information.


Use your brain and try to figure out why Yale, Harvard, and Stanford's part time programs aren't ranked better than Georgetown's.

:lol:

OP, I understand why you asked the question. Just remember: GULC is still a top ranked, well-respected law school.

if not on TLS

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Re: Why isn't Georgetown ranked higher?

Postby Lovely Ludwig Van » Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:00 pm

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Re: Why isn't Georgetown ranked higher?

Postby D-hops » Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:00 pm

Because they let waterman attend

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Re: Why isn't Georgetown ranked higher?

Postby bk1 » Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:03 pm

Lovely Ludwig Van wrote:I asked about GULC's overall rankings. Not it's part-time. I was merely quoting USWNR. If it'll make that much of a difference to you, I'll edit my original post to suit your preferences.


It was a joke, but the main point of this is that specialty rankings mean nothing and that GULC might be higher if it were able to raise its medians (which it probably struggles to do due to class size).

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Re: Why isn't Georgetown ranked higher?

Postby Veyron » Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:05 pm

Lovely Ludwig Van wrote:Silly question, I know. But still, I would like to hear what people think. From USNWR, Georgetown is ranked first in clinical training, sixth in environmental law, seventh in healthcare law, third in international law, second in tax law, and fifth in trial advocacy. It has great lay prestige, famous faculty, and it's in the middle of bloody Washington DC for crying out loud. So how come it's only ranked 14th overall?


First of all, specialised rankings don't count for shit in the legal world. You'll get preference in any specialized field based on overall ranking only.

That being said, Georgetown suffers from (1) relatively recent accendancy - judges and older practitioners are often not familiar with its high ranking (2) piss poor biglaw placement, its really more of a school for people who want to go into government work. However, if you DO want to work on the hill or something, I could see picking Georgetown over any school but H and Y.

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Re: Why isn't Georgetown ranked higher?

Postby Lovely Ludwig Van » Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:10 pm

Veyron wrote:
Lovely Ludwig Van wrote:Silly question, I know. But still, I would like to hear what people think. From USNWR, Georgetown is ranked first in clinical training, sixth in environmental law, seventh in healthcare law, third in international law, second in tax law, and fifth in trial advocacy. It has great lay prestige, famous faculty, and it's in the middle of bloody Washington DC for crying out loud. So how come it's only ranked 14th overall?


First of all, specialised rankings don't count for shit in the legal world. You'll get preference in any specialized field based on overall ranking only.

That being said, Georgetown suffers from (1) relatively recent accendancy - judges and older practitioners are often not familiar with its high ranking (2) piss poor biglaw placement, its really more of a school for people who want to go into government work. However, if you DO want to work on the hill or something, I could see picking Georgetown over any school but H and Y.


Thanks for the constructive response. That explains a lot. I had a feeling most of it came down to biglaw placement.

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Re: Why isn't Georgetown ranked higher?

Postby sophia.olive » Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:18 pm

Lovely Ludwig Van wrote:
sophia.olive wrote:
Lovely Ludwig Van wrote:Silly question, I know. But still, I would like to hear what people think. From USNWR, Georgetown is ranked first in clinical training, sixth in environmental law, seventh in healthcare law, third in international law, first in part-time law, second in tax law, and fifth in trial advocacy, which puts it top 10 in 7 of the 10 USNWR subcategories. It has great lay prestige, famous faculty, and it's in the middle of bloody Washington DC for crying out loud. So how come it's only ranked 14th overall?

lol


LOL. Yeah, I know, huh? That was pretty funny, wasn't it. Funny enough to go through the trouble of underlining that shit, typing 'lol,' and hitting 'submit.' You know, there is such a thing as a constructive response and there are people on this site who give it. For a user w/ 900 posts of experience, you sure are a wealth of information.

lol

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Re: Why isn't Georgetown ranked higher?

Postby thecilent » Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:29 pm

Lovely Ludwig Van wrote:Silly question, I know. But still, I would like to hear what people think. From USNWR, Georgetown is ranked first in clinical training, sixth in environmental law, seventh in healthcare law, third in international law, second in tax law, and fifth in trial advocacy. It has great lay prestige, famous faculty, and it's in the middle of bloody Washington DC for crying out loud. So how come it's only ranked 14th overall?

Lulz

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Re: Why isn't Georgetown ranked higher?

Postby Lovely Ludwig Van » Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:31 pm

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