Compare GULC with GW?

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Re: Compare GULC with GW?

Postby krad » Tue Dec 14, 2010 6:28 pm

Teoeo wrote:This is going to be a fun thread.

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Re: Compare GULC with GW?

Postby FunkyJD » Tue Dec 14, 2010 6:36 pm

hipstermafia wrote:
nealric wrote:
I was going to say, where did you live in the DC area for $700 a month? Manassas? If in the city, where and with how many roommates?


Cap hill group rowhouse.

+1. Or Van Ness, Cleveland Park, Glover Park, even group houses in arlington. Cheap rooms may not be the easiest to find but it's definitely possible.

No, that's cool, I know. I used to live in Eastern Market when I lived in town. I figured he had roommates. $2100 a month is about right. Otherwise, I was fixing to move to DC if there was something I didn't know about changes in the housing market there. :P

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Re: Compare GULC with GW?

Postby nealric » Tue Dec 14, 2010 6:38 pm

No, that's cool, I know. I used to live in Eastern Market when I lived in town. I figured he had roommates.


IMO it's pretty wasteful not to have roommates in law school unless you are married or have a family.

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Re: Compare GULC with GW?

Postby hipstermafia » Tue Dec 14, 2010 6:40 pm

FunkyJD wrote:No, that's cool, I know. I used to live in Eastern Market when I lived in town. I figured he had roommates. $2100 a month is about right. Otherwise, I was fixing to move to DC if there was something I didn't know about changes in the housing market there. :P

ha, i wish :)

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Re: Compare GULC with GW?

Postby FunkyJD » Tue Dec 14, 2010 6:44 pm

nealric wrote:
No, that's cool, I know. I used to live in Eastern Market when I lived in town. I figured he had roommates.


IMO it's pretty wasteful not to have roommates in law school unless you are married or have a family.

For the most part, I'd pay extra for the peace and freedom to live as you wish. I'm a lone wolf. Now if I were going to law school in NY, I would reassess that. :mrgreen:

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Re: Compare GULC with GW?

Postby AreJay711 » Tue Dec 14, 2010 6:45 pm

nealric wrote:
GULC is certainly a better school but is it 120K much better? I doubt it.


Possibly, but where did you get 120k from? There's no guarantee of any specific amount of cash from GW for a GULC admit.

It also depends one's priorities. If one wants to biglaw path, and the GULC/GW split is the difference between getting biglaw and not, the salary difference will quickly eclipse the cost delta. The key is assessing the chance of that being the case- which is by no means an easy task.

This is really late but ED at GW = Full scholarship. I think the slightly better chances at biglaw are tough to justify the difference if the OP is at the bottom of the class but that is 100% subjective.

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Re: Compare GULC with GW?

Postby itsnotrealme » Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:40 am

Thanks all for the helpful discussion.
I was told that if doing IP, GW w/ $$$ is definitely a wise choice.
Other than that, T14 will still be the best choice.

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Re: Compare GULC with GW?

Postby tallboone » Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:51 am

When I was considering whether or not to do this last year, I was told by the career services office at GULC that, unless I was dead set on being out of D.C. immediately upon graduation, that I should take the $$$ and apply ED to GW. In D.C., there is little difference in reputation. So, pick based on where you want to practice. (Also, the IP is a huge consideration because IP actually are set there).

Anyway, I decided that I didn't know if I would want to be in D.C. at graduation and wanted the option of going back home right away, so I picked another T-14 w/ $.

After being in law school for one semester, I can tell you that it sure would be nice to be attending with free tuition...lot less pressure.

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Re: Compare GULC with GW?

Postby itsnotrealme » Wed Dec 15, 2010 12:55 pm

Thank you for the helpful insights!


tallboone wrote:When I was considering whether or not to do this last year, I was told by the career services office at GULC that, unless I was dead set on being out of D.C. immediately upon graduation, that I should take the $$$ and apply ED to GW. In D.C., there is little difference in reputation. So, pick based on where you want to practice. (Also, the IP is a huge consideration because IP actually are set there).

Anyway, I decided that I didn't know if I would want to be in D.C. at graduation and wanted the option of going back home right away, so I picked another T-14 w/ $.

After being in law school for one semester, I can tell you that it sure would be nice to be attending with free tuition...lot less pressure.

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Re: Compare GULC with GW?

Postby masterthearts » Sun Jan 30, 2011 9:43 am

NU_Jet55 wrote:Wouldn't go to either at sticker.

Vandy w/ scholly >>>> than GULC at sticker. In fact, I don't know if there's a situation that GULC at sticker is ever the best option.

Other more generous T25 (WashU, Minnesota, IUIC)>>>> GW for small $

If you really have to work in DC (LOL@anyone finding a job in DC), then try to save as much money as possible. GULC & GW are best for the DC market, but every school has grads there and can get you there (assuming there are any jobs left in 3 years).


I think lots of those coming out of gulc and gw aim for the NY market, too

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Re: Compare GULC with GW?

Postby minuit » Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:57 am

stratocophic wrote:Also, totally unrelated but strange, there are very few 'top' undergrad schools (according to the USNWR :roll: ) on their entering class list, aside from a good LAC or two and a few great tech schools like MIT and Caltech (which makes sense given the IP rep). Comparable schools (ND, WUSTL, UIUC, Vandy, etc.) all have a bunch of kids from Ivy schools, other private schools with good reps, and top publics like Berkeley/UVA/Michigan. Very strange disparity. I guess once a prestige whore, always a prestige whore, eh Ivy/T20 undergrads? :oops:


HUH?

ridiculous misinformation...

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Re: Compare GULC with GW?

Postby Anacreon » Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:26 am

minuit wrote:
stratocophic wrote:Also, totally unrelated but strange, there are very few 'top' undergrad schools (according to the USNWR :roll: ) on their entering class list, aside from a good LAC or two and a few great tech schools like MIT and Caltech (which makes sense given the IP rep). Comparable schools (ND, WUSTL, UIUC, Vandy, etc.) all have a bunch of kids from Ivy schools, other private schools with good reps, and top publics like Berkeley/UVA/Michigan. Very strange disparity. I guess once a prestige whore, always a prestige whore, eh Ivy/T20 undergrads? :oops:


HUH?

ridiculous misinformation...


vs.

http://law.wustl.edu/admissions/documen ... rofile.pdf

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Re: Compare GULC with GW?

Postby rejectmaster » Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:48 am

this it not totally relevant but if you do get into gw ed (which as far as i know is 100% tuition and housing scholarship) wouldn't the decision be made already

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Re: Compare GULC with GW?

Postby hokie » Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:34 pm

rejectmaster wrote:this it not totally relevant but if you do get into gw ed (which as far as i know is 100% tuition and housing scholarship) wouldn't the decision be made already


This is true and even if this thread is just for argument's sake, Georgetown vs. GW ED is basically comparing GULC to Fullride at GW.

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Re: Compare GULC with GW?

Postby Nogameisfair » Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:42 pm

hokie wrote:
rejectmaster wrote:this it not totally relevant but if you do get into gw ed (which as far as i know is 100% tuition and housing scholarship) wouldn't the decision be made already


This is true and even if this thread is just for argument's sake, Georgetown vs. GW ED is basically comparing GULC to Fullride at GW.


I would imagine if you have numbers to get a full ride to GW, you'd also get some money from Georgetown, no?

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Re: Compare GULC with GW?

Postby Ialdabaoth » Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:52 pm

I think the GW ED scholarship is only full-tuition, not tuition + housing or anything else.

From GW ED admissions page: "Applicants admitted through this early admission program will be awarded a full-tuition scholarship."

Does anybody have info about a true full ride ED scholarship for GW?

EDIT: for clarity

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Re: Compare GULC with GW?

Postby stratocophic » Sun Jan 30, 2011 4:17 pm

minuit wrote:
stratocophic wrote:Also, totally unrelated but strange, there are very few 'top' undergrad schools (according to the USNWR :roll: ) on their entering class list, aside from a good LAC or two and a few great tech schools like MIT and Caltech (which makes sense given the IP rep). Comparable schools (ND, WUSTL, UIUC, Vandy, etc.) all have a bunch of kids from Ivy schools, other private schools with good reps, and top publics like Berkeley/UVA/Michigan. Very strange disparity. I guess once a prestige whore, always a prestige whore, eh Ivy/T20 undergrads? :oops:


HUH?

ridiculous misinformation...
Not sure what list I was looking at, maybe one from a past year? Whatever it was I checked it several times because I couldn't believe how short the list of schools was :| That seems more like what I expected to see.

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Re: Compare GULC with GW?

Postby masterthearts » Sun Jan 30, 2011 5:36 pm

$105K scholly at GW, vs. having parents pay full sticker at gulc. What to do?

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Re: Compare GULC with GW?

Postby queenlizzie13 » Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:23 pm

masterthearts wrote:$105K scholly at GW, vs. having parents pay full sticker at gulc. What to do?


Wow lucky your parents are willing to pay? Would they also pay the rest of the cost at GW?

Personally I would not be having my parents help out. To have them shell out even more $$ to finance my education after helping me through college is not fair to them IMO.

But to each their own, I guess.

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Re: Compare GULC with GW?

Postby masterthearts » Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:55 pm

queenlizzie13 wrote:
masterthearts wrote:$105K scholly at GW, vs. having parents pay full sticker at gulc. What to do?


Wow lucky your parents are willing to pay? Would they also pay the rest of the cost at GW?

Personally I would not be having my parents help out. To have them shell out even more $$ to finance my education after helping me through college is not fair to them IMO.

But to each their own, I guess.


Yep, they will pay wherever I decide to go. They insist. I feel lucky to have them.

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Re: Compare GULC with GW?

Postby MrAnon » Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:59 pm

God, both schools are a disaster. the New York Times wrote a story a couple weeks ago about how the employment office at GULC tries to game statistics. Can't imagine things are much better at GW.

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Re: Compare GULC with GW?

Postby bdubs » Sun Jan 30, 2011 7:36 pm

masterthearts wrote:$105K scholly at GW, vs. having parents pay full sticker at gulc. What to do?


Go to GW and have your parents give you the money as a nest egg for a potentially rocky employment situation afterwards.

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Re: Compare GULC with GW?

Postby masterthearts » Sun Jan 30, 2011 7:42 pm

MrAnon wrote:God, both schools are a disaster. the New York Times wrote a story a couple weeks ago about how the employment office at GULC tries to game statistics. Can't imagine things are much better at GW.


I also read that article. They hire students on 2/1 (the article said), which is 9 months out and hire the students to work on the admission committee. Then they count them as employed 9 months after graduation.

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Re: Compare GULC with GW?

Postby Nogameisfair » Sun Jan 30, 2011 7:43 pm

masterthearts wrote:
MrAnon wrote:God, both schools are a disaster. the New York Times wrote a story a couple weeks ago about how the employment office at GULC tries to game statistics. Can't imagine things are much better at GW.


I also read that article. They hire students on 2/1 (the article said), which is 9 months out and hire the students to work on the admission committee. Then they count them as employed 9 months after graduation.



Please, they all massage the data. Does anyone believe Duke actually had 100% employment during the peak of the recession (as in real legal jobs)?

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Re: Compare GULC with GW?

Postby Encyclopedia Brown » Sun Jan 30, 2011 7:45 pm

GW has a broken vending machine that distributes two sodas for the price of one. I haven't seen GULC's soda-distribution numbers, but I'll speculate that they don't measure up.




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