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Optional Essays for Safeties?

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 1:29 pm
by icouldbuyu
Should I submit optional essays for schools where I am over the 75th for GPA and at the 75th for the LSAT?

Re: Optional Essays for Safeties?

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 1:30 pm
by cinefile 17
Could help for $$$

Re: Optional Essays for Safeties?

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 1:32 pm
by icouldbuyu
Ok, thanks. If they don't specify the length of the diversity statement, what should be the max length?

Re: Optional Essays for Safeties?

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 1:41 pm
by 1Levening2013
i'll just chime in on the other side....i did not write a single optional essay (for reach, targets, or safeties). i did not get into my reach, got into targets, got substantial $ from safeties

Re: Optional Essays for Safeties?

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 12:18 pm
by bdubs
icouldbuyu wrote:Should I submit optional essays for schools where I am over the 75th for GPA and at the 75th for the LSAT?
Do you have something to say or are you just writing them because they will help with scholarships/YP? If you write something that comes across as insincere because the school is just a safety to you I would say don't bother.

Re: Optional Essays for Safeties?

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 12:19 pm
by lifestooquick
bdubs wrote:
icouldbuyu wrote:Should I submit optional essays for schools where I am over the 75th for GPA and at the 75th for the LSAT?
Do you have something to say or are you just writing them because they will help with scholarships/YP? If you write something that comes across as insincere because the school is just a safety to you I would say don't bother.
This. If you have something to say - write the essay. Don't write it just for the sake of writing it.

Re: Optional Essays for Safeties?

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 2:24 am
by HeavenWood
icouldbuyu wrote:Should I submit optional essays for schools where I am over the 75th for GPA and at the 75th for the LSAT?
I would do it; best not to chance being YP'd.

Re: Optional Essays for Safeties?

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 2:23 pm
by icouldbuyu
I decided not to write them because they were still a work in progress. My PS was outstanding and I didn't want to open the possibility of the diversity statement being disappointing relative to my PS. Also I wanted to get the safeties in as soon as possible. I'm writing the optional essays for all my reach schools. I'm a borderline student at Cornell, so I'm hoping my PS and now complete DS will put me over the top. I also wrote a great "why Cornell" essay.

Re: Optional Essays for Safeties?

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 2:26 pm
by dakatz
icouldbuyu wrote:I decided not to write them because they were still a work in progress. My PS was outstanding and I didn't want to open the possibility of the diversity statement being disappointing relative to my PS. Also I wanted to get the safeties in as soon as possible. I'm writing the optional essays for all my reach schools. I'm a borderline student at Cornell, so I'm hoping my PS and now complete DS will put me over the top. I also wrote a great "why Cornell" essay.
Was this "outstanding" PS about your modesty and humility by any chance?

Re: Optional Essays for Safeties?

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 2:35 pm
by icouldbuyu
dakatz wrote:
icouldbuyu wrote:I decided not to write them because they were still a work in progress. My PS was outstanding and I didn't want to open the possibility of the diversity statement being disappointing relative to my PS. Also I wanted to get the safeties in as soon as possible. I'm writing the optional essays for all my reach schools. I'm a borderline student at Cornell, so I'm hoping my PS and now complete DS will put me over the top. I also wrote a great "why Cornell" essay.
Was this "outstanding" PS about your modesty and humility by any chance?
I'm quoting what the writing center at my school said. Also I had an editor at the NY Times proofread it; he was so impressed that he offered me a job. Is your PS about being a smart ass?

Re: Optional Essays for Safeties?

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 2:38 pm
by dakatz
icouldbuyu wrote:
dakatz wrote:
icouldbuyu wrote:I decided not to write them because they were still a work in progress. My PS was outstanding and I didn't want to open the possibility of the diversity statement being disappointing relative to my PS. Also I wanted to get the safeties in as soon as possible. I'm writing the optional essays for all my reach schools. I'm a borderline student at Cornell, so I'm hoping my PS and now complete DS will put me over the top. I also wrote a great "why Cornell" essay.
Was this "outstanding" PS about your modesty and humility by any chance?
I'm quoting what the writing center at my school said. Also I had an editor at the NY Times proofread it; he was so impressed that he offered me a job. Is your PS about being a smart ass?
Wasn't the topic per se, but I made sure the subtle intonation was in there. Thanks for asking. Well hey, at least now I can rule out the possibility that this outstanding PS was about your ability to pick up on a joke.

Re: Optional Essays for Safeties?

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 2:56 pm
by Veyron
Me --> Penn $$, NYU $$, Michigan (WL). Guess which one I didn't do the optional essays for.

Re: Optional Essays for Safeties?

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 3:01 pm
by dakatz
I got into a super reach school for which I didn't do the optional essay. And I got waitlisted from a safety to whom I submitted a sincere and specific optional essay. Go figure.

Re: Optional Essays for Safeties?

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 3:03 pm
by HeavenWood
dakatz wrote:I got into a super reach school for which I didn't do the optional essay. And I got waitlisted from a safety to whom I submitted a sincere and specific optional essay. Go figure.
Which safety if you don't mind me asking?

Re: Optional Essays for Safeties?

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 3:38 pm
by dakatz
HeavenWood wrote:
dakatz wrote:I got into a super reach school for which I didn't do the optional essay. And I got waitlisted from a safety to whom I submitted a sincere and specific optional essay. Go figure.
Which safety if you don't mind me asking?
W&M. Made it sort of an optional essay/DS fusion that I thought gave the whole essay a very personal and specific touch, as opposed to "I really like your new facilities" BS. Same happened with Fordham (though it was a "Why Fordham" essay, as opposed to a school-requested optional essay)

Re: Optional Essays for Safeties?

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 3:41 pm
by The McRib Is Risen
cinefile 17 wrote:Could help for $$$
TITCR.

The only reason to apply to safeties in the first place is to (1.) have an admission on lockdown and (2.) roll the dice on getting some $. It takes an hour at most to write these essays, and at the very least they'll keep you from getting YPed.

Re: Optional Essays for Safeties?

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 3:42 pm
by Cupidity
Yes, I got WL'd at most schools I was overqualified for.

Re: Optional Essays for Safeties?

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 3:43 pm
by The McRib Is Risen
Cupidity wrote:Yes, I got WL'd at most schools I was overqualified for.
I did too. When BosTTTon College WLed me, I wrote them a LOCI which said only You can't fire me. I quit.

Re: Optional Essays for Safeties?

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 5:53 pm
by HeavenWood
Cupidity wrote:Yes, I got WL'd at most schools I was overqualified for.
I see you were waitlisted at BC. We're practically numbers twins. I spent a lot of time on the optional essay, but now I'm worried!