Best Value Law School 2011

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Best Value Law School 2011

Postby mbutterfly » Sun Sep 26, 2010 1:58 pm

http://www.nationaljurist.com/content/b ... aw-schools

What do you think of this list?

Georgia State is ranked #60 overall with the #3 (or 4) program in Health Law.

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Re: Best Value Law School 2011

Postby kalvano » Sun Sep 26, 2010 2:11 pm

What do I think?


LOL.

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Re: Best Value Law School 2011

Postby joemoviebuff » Sun Sep 26, 2010 2:12 pm

Meh. Obviously their only way of measuring "value" is the cost of tuition. However, to use an extreme example, a person will most likely get more value out of an expensive Yale education than an inexpensive University of Bumblefuck one.

BYU is a good deal though.

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Re: Best Value Law School 2011

Postby beachbum » Sun Sep 26, 2010 2:31 pm

I fail to see the value of not having a job.

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Re: Best Value Law School 2011

Postby Doritos » Sun Sep 26, 2010 2:35 pm

beachbum wrote:I fail to see the value of not having a job.


Yeah, value is more than tuition.

also re: that thing about Georgia State's health law...ignore that. specialty rankings don't matter much

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Re: Best Value Law School 2011

Postby thexfactor » Sun Sep 26, 2010 2:58 pm

i would vote UNC instate and out state is pretty cheap.

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Re: Best Value Law School 2011

Postby Helmholtz » Sun Sep 26, 2010 3:28 pm

Yale is the best value law school. No question.

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Re: Best Value Law School 2011

Postby mfeller2 » Sun Sep 26, 2010 3:42 pm

Univ. of Nebraska in-state. Cost per year $13,337.05 x3 (Out of state = $28,649) + low COL est. ~$8,000.00 X3 = ~$72,000
but. . .
Median starting salary = $59,774

Still not a bad deal IMO.

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Re: Best Value Law School 2011

Postby BruceWayne » Sun Sep 26, 2010 3:47 pm

Helmholtz wrote:Yale is the best value law school. No question.
Helmholtz wrote:Yale is the best value law school. No question.


Although you're probably saying this as a result of their career placement, their COAP is what really seals the deal on this. Even if you don't get a job from Yale, you don't have to worry about any debt because they won't make you pay anything---including on your undergrad loans!

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Re: Best Value Law School 2011

Postby whymeohgodno » Sun Sep 26, 2010 3:48 pm

Helmholtz wrote:Yale is the best value law school. No question.

This. There's no way you can graduate from Yale and be unemployed. Unless you wish to be unemployed.

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Re: Best Value Law School 2011

Postby 2014 » Sun Sep 26, 2010 6:17 pm

Blatant anti-UVA and UM trolling by the list.
They are both public and better value than most of the list.
(And why not add Berkeley too, though I think it's overpriced, but still worth sticker more than the rest of the list)

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Re: Best Value Law School 2011

Postby kalvano » Sun Sep 26, 2010 11:05 pm

Also, the list has Texas Tech as one of the best value school with no mention of UT. $29K for in-state students.

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Re: Best Value Law School 2011

Postby Doritos » Sun Sep 26, 2010 11:49 pm

2014 wrote:Blatant anti-UVA and UM trolling by the list.
They are both public and better value than most of the list.
(And why not add Berkeley too, though I think it's overpriced, but still worth sticker more than the rest of the list)


UVa UM and Berk are public in name only. The tuition feels rather private. Job prospects are better than any other publics though.

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Re: Best Value Law School 2011

Postby reasonable_man » Sun Sep 26, 2010 11:53 pm

Helmholtz wrote:Yale is the best value law school. No question.


Followed closely by Stanford, harvard, Columbia and NYU.

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Re: Best Value Law School 2011

Postby beachbum » Sun Sep 26, 2010 11:55 pm

reasonable_man wrote:
Helmholtz wrote:Yale is the best value law school. No question.


Followed closely by Stanford, harvard, Columbia and NYU.


Yeah. Fuck Chicago.

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Re: Best Value Law School 2011

Postby CGI Fridays » Mon Sep 27, 2010 12:00 am

"Law schools make the Best Value rankings if they meet three criteria: Their bar pass rate is higher than the state average; their average indebtedness after graduation is below $100,000; and their employment rate nine months after graduation is 85 percent of the class or higher. We then weight the schools using the same three factors plus in-state tuition costs."


Wow. Best plan of attack ever. No looking at the amount of money made by the average grad, nor the average prestige of job, nor the average quality of life reports.

This literally looks at employment as a yes or no proposition.

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Re: Best Value Law School 2011

Postby AreJay711 » Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:38 pm

I know Yale is nearly universally regarded as number one, but in all fairness I think Harvard is the best value. Harvard has at least as strong of an alumni network, equal job opportunities, but also has a better reputation outside of the legal profession. As proof look at the Supreme Court: there are 6 Harvard alumni and 3 Yale alumni. Even if Yale is better academically, Harvard still seems to me to be a better value... even if I'm not really competitive for either one lol.

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Re: Best Value Law School 2011

Postby Grizz » Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:40 pm

AreJay711 wrote:I know Yale is nearly universally regarded as number one, but in all fairness I think Harvard is the best value. Harvard has at least as strong of an alumni network, equal job opportunities, but also has a better reputation outside of the legal profession. As proof look at the Supreme Court: there are 6 Harvard alumni and 3 Yale alumni. Even if Yale is better academically, Harvard still seems to me to be a better value... even if I'm not really competitive for either one lol.


The Supreme Court is not exactly a great sample there, bud.

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Re: Best Value Law School 2011

Postby politcaltracker » Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:44 pm

AreJay711 wrote:I know Yale is nearly universally regarded as number one, but in all fairness I think Harvard is the best value. Harvard has at least as strong of an alumni network, equal job opportunities, but also has a better reputation outside of the legal profession. As proof look at the Supreme Court: there are 6 Harvard alumni and 3 Yale alumni. Even if Yale is better academically, Harvard still seems to me to be a better value... even if I'm not really competitive for either one lol.


COAP >>> LIPP

Yale is a better value.

There are, however, plenty of reasons to choose Harvard over Yale (though SCOTUS placement isn't one of them)

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Re: Best Value Law School 2011

Postby dissonance1848 » Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:45 pm

Best value law school: Yale Full Ride.

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Re: Best Value Law School 2011

Postby politcaltracker » Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:46 pm

Their 'methodology' is clearly BS. But isn't this list actually a collection of law schools that might be reasonable to attend if you can't cut a T-14 and you want to live in the area?
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Re: Best Value Law School 2011

Postby CGI Fridays » Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:47 pm

rad law wrote:
AreJay711 wrote:I know Yale is nearly universally regarded as number one, but in all fairness I think Harvard is the best value. Harvard has at least as strong of an alumni network, equal job opportunities, but also has a better reputation outside of the legal profession. As proof look at the Supreme Court: there are 6 Harvard alumni and 3 Yale alumni. Even if Yale is better academically, Harvard still seems to me to be a better value... even if I'm not really competitive for either one lol.


The Supreme Court is not exactly a great sample there, bud.


But there are other examples as well! Take members of successful businesses, or professors, or those who attend class reunions of prestigious universities! Everywhere you look, Harvard is better represented! Coincidence? I think not.

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Re: Best Value Law School 2011

Postby politcaltracker » Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:49 pm

CGI Fridays wrote:
rad law wrote:
AreJay711 wrote:I know Yale is nearly universally regarded as number one, but in all fairness I think Harvard is the best value. Harvard has at least as strong of an alumni network, equal job opportunities, but also has a better reputation outside of the legal profession. As proof look at the Supreme Court: there are 6 Harvard alumni and 3 Yale alumni. Even if Yale is better academically, Harvard still seems to me to be a better value... even if I'm not really competitive for either one lol.


The Supreme Court is not exactly a great sample there, bud.


But there are other examples as well! Take members of successful businesses, or professors, or those who attend class reunions of prestigious universities! Everywhere you look, Harvard is better represented! Coincidence? I think not.


You're right. It's not a coincidence. It's because Harvard is over twice the size as Yale. Divide those numbers by average class size and you'll get a different conclusion.

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Re: Best Value Law School 2011

Postby CGI Fridays » Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:50 pm

dissonance1848 wrote:Best value law school: Yale Full Ride.

You are removing cost from value in the equation.
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Re: Best Value Law School 2011

Postby Grizz » Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:50 pm

politcaltracker wrote:Their 'methodology' is clearly BS. But isn't this list actually a collection of law schools that might be reasonable to attend if you can't cut a T-14 and you want to live in the area?


Not GA State at least. Better get into UGA.




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