Happiest Field of Law

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Re: Happiest Field of Law

Postby MTU » Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:41 am

amyLAchemist wrote:IP. We have jobs.


At least.... this is where I'm happiest.

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Re: Happiest Field of Law

Postby AreJay711 » Fri Oct 01, 2010 1:55 pm

Happiness is subjective. Some people like money and don't mind working themselves to death. Some people would rather have less money and more free time. Actually, some studies have found the happiest group of people in the world are the tribes deep in the Amazon with almost no contact with the outside world. Maybe thats like Plato's cave, idk, but it is really based on your preferences.

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Re: Happiest Field of Law

Postby bigben » Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:54 pm

Aqualibrium wrote:Happiest Field of Law?

Easy; whatever field you work in as a summer associate. SA'ing is the sweetest gig out there. Food, drink, and at some firms women. All with very low expectations with regards to work product.

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Re: Happiest Field of Law

Postby Borhas » Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:34 pm

amyLAchemist wrote:
AreJay711 wrote:Some people like money and don't mind working themselves to death.


This is a very good point - people seem to often forget people like me exist.


no we just think you are short sighted

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Re: Happiest Field of Law

Postby Borhas » Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:52 pm

when people say it's wrong to love money they don't say that people don't love money, they say people shouldn't love money because money is a means not an end and certainly not the ultimate end to achieve, and loving a means to an end is short sighted because you don't focus on the end goal.

even loving boats, TV's, houses, garages, islands are short sighted

the following uses of the term "you" is not YOU, but the general you

materialism in general is short sighted for the same reason as money is. Stuff is a means. You don't value money because it's fun to see a big number on the screen or because large stacks of soiled paper are somehow so awesome. You don't even love money for the stuff it gets you. You don't love a TV because big heavy plastic boxes are awesome, or that lights and sounds coming from them are awesome, you love it because it gives you information, stories, music, news, all that resonate with you. You don't value a lock because it's heavy and made of metal, you value it because it hides secrets, keeps out the undesirables. You don't value a flashy clothes because you look at yourself in the mirror, you value them for the status symbol it projects, and the soothing reassurance that you have a purpose in this world and that you yourself have value.

yadayadayada

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Re: Happiest Field of Law

Postby AreJay711 » Sat Oct 02, 2010 11:48 pm

Borhas wrote:when people say it's wrong to love money they don't say that people don't love money, they say people shouldn't love money because money is a means not an end and certainly not the ultimate end to achieve, and loving a means to an end is short sighted because you don't focus on the end goal.

even loving boats, TV's, houses, garages, islands are short sighted

the following uses of the term "you" is not YOU, but the general you

materialism in general is short sighted for the same reason as money is. Stuff is a means. You don't value money because it's fun to see a big number on the screen or because large stacks of soiled paper are somehow so awesome. You don't even love money for the stuff it gets you. You don't love a TV because big heavy plastic boxes are awesome, or that lights and sounds coming from them are awesome, you love it because it gives you information, stories, music, news, all that resonate with you. You don't value a lock because it's heavy and made of metal, you value it because it hides secrets, keeps out the undesirables. You don't value a flashy clothes because you look at yourself in the mirror, you value them for the status symbol it projects, and the soothing reassurance that you have a purpose in this world and that you yourself have value.

yadayadayada


That doesn't mean that someone is short sighted if they are willing to work harder -- it just means that work is a lower utility cost to them and/or money is a stronger reward. Plus some people do love money for money's sake. It is a convenient measure for how successful you are (in certain aspects) and how much value you have created for others.

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Re: Happiest Field of Law

Postby Borhas » Sun Oct 03, 2010 5:24 am

amyLAchemist wrote:I don't think people love money for the sake of money. Money also does other things than buy expensive consumer goods - it buys education, homes, etc. It gives you freedom to take risks in your career/life if you want as well.

Also, the whole conversation ignores another reason people are willing to work themselves to the bone - to advance in their careers. While that is related to income in a lot of cases, some people get true joy out of succeeding.....and success means different things to different people.


success at achieving different things? does it mean freedom, education, security? don't need much money for any of those things.

I plan on working till I die, because I like working and making progress, you probably do too.

but that's not related to money, taking pride in your work/creation is not about money, it's about sense of self worth.

Don't sell yourself short, you don't want money, you want dignity, freedom, and security. Is acquiring currency the best way to do that? Well, no.




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