T4 full ride or T2 at $20k a year?

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Take the T4 full ride or T2 at $20k a year?

T4 full ride
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19%
T2 at $20k a year
47
81%
 
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T4 full ride or T2 at $20k a year?

Postby angiej » Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:36 pm

Which would you choose? Attend the T4 with a full ride scholarship (conditional on staying in the top 1/3 of the class) or attend a T2 at sticker? Hypothetically . . . (not looking for re-take advice, just which would you choose).

If it matters, I'm looking for as little debt as possible because I want to get into prosecuting or other public sector work.

In addition to voting, please explain your reasoning.

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Re: T4 full ride or T2 at $20k a year?

Postby bk1 » Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:37 pm

It depends. Are we talking about TTT's in overcrowded markets?

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Re: T4 full ride or T2 at $20k a year?

Postby xyzzzzzzzz » Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:41 pm

probably t2. market?

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Re: T4 full ride or T2 at $20k a year?

Postby angiej » Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:44 pm

bk1 wrote:It depends. Are we talking about TTT's in overcrowded markets?

T2 is the only school in its market and its my first-choice school (even above Tier 1's). The T4 is in a shitty market, and is the lowest ranked among 7 other schools in the market. I wouldn't even want to work in that city anyway after graduation.

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Re: T4 full ride or T2 at $20k a year?

Postby xyzzzzzzzz » Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:45 pm

angiej wrote:
bk1 wrote:It depends. Are we talking about TTT's in overcrowded markets?

T2 is the only school in its market and its my first-choice school (even above Tier 1's). The T4 is in a shitty market, and is the lowest ranked among 7 other schools in the market. I wouldn't even want to work in that city anyway after graduation.


then there is no question...

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Re: T4 full ride or T2 at $20k a year?

Postby angiej » Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:45 pm

xyzzzzzzzz wrote:
angiej wrote:
bk1 wrote:It depends. Are we talking about TTT's in overcrowded markets?

T2 is the only school in its market and its my first-choice school (even above Tier 1's). The T4 is in a shitty market, and is the lowest ranked among 7 other schools in the market. I wouldn't even want to work in that city anyway after graduation.


then there is no question...


But I feel like I would be foolish to turn down the opportunity to go to law school for free.

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Re: T4 full ride or T2 at $20k a year?

Postby deadhipsters » Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:45 pm

angiej wrote:Which would you choose? Attend the T4 with a full ride scholarship (conditional on staying in the top 1/3 of the class) or attend a T2 at sticker? Hypothetically . . . (not looking for re-take advice, just which would you choose).

If it matters, I'm looking for as little debt as possible because I want to get into prosecuting or other public sector work.

In addition to voting, please explain your reasoning.



The cost of the T2 is 20k? Is that correct?

I would go with T2 based solely on the fact that there is no guarantee that you will be in the top 1/3 of your class at the T4. I’d take Rutgers at sticker over Pace or Albany full ride any day of the week.

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Re: T4 full ride or T2 at $20k a year?

Postby angiej » Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:47 pm

deadhipsters wrote:
angiej wrote:Which would you choose? Attend the T4 with a full ride scholarship (conditional on staying in the top 1/3 of the class) or attend a T2 at sticker? Hypothetically . . . (not looking for re-take advice, just which would you choose).

If it matters, I'm looking for as little debt as possible because I want to get into prosecuting or other public sector work.

In addition to voting, please explain your reasoning.



The cost of the T2 is 20k? Is that correct?

I would go with T2 based solely on the fact that there is no guarantee that you will be in the top 1/3 of your class at the T4. I’d take Rutgers at sticker over Pace or Albany full ride any day of the week.


Yes, its in-state for me and its a terrific school that is by far my top-choice.

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Re: T4 full ride or T2 at $20k a year?

Postby xyzzzzzzzz » Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:48 pm

angiej wrote:
xyzzzzzzzz wrote:
angiej wrote:
bk1 wrote:It depends. Are we talking about TTT's in overcrowded markets?

T2 is the only school in its market and its my first-choice school (even above Tier 1's). The T4 is in a shitty market, and is the lowest ranked among 7 other schools in the market. I wouldn't even want to work in that city anyway after graduation.


then there is no question...


But I feel like I would be foolish to turn down the opportunity to go to law school for free.


20k a year before col expenses = 60k in debt. 60k in debt with poor job prospects > no debt and no job. Or no debt and maybe a job. Unless you have connections to the market you want to work in, I think the t4 is a gamble.

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Re: T4 full ride or T2 at $20k a year?

Postby IAFG » Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:49 pm

angiej wrote:I'm looking for as little debt as possible because I want to get into prosecuting or other public sector work.

IBR

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Re: T4 full ride or T2 at $20k a year?

Postby bk1 » Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:49 pm

angiej wrote:
bk1 wrote:It depends. Are we talking about TTT's in overcrowded markets?

T2 is the only school in its market and its my first-choice school (even above Tier 1's). The T4 is in a shitty market, and is the lowest ranked among 7 other schools in the market. I wouldn't even want to work in that city anyway after graduation.


This is easy.

The cost of the T2 is completely justified due to it being your desired market and having a higher chance of landing you a job.

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Re: T4 full ride or T2 at $20k a year?

Postby reasonable_man » Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:50 pm

angiej wrote:
bk1 wrote:It depends. Are we talking about TTT's in overcrowded markets?

T2 is the only school in its market and its my first-choice school (even above Tier 1's). The T4 is in a shitty market, and is the lowest ranked among 7 other schools in the market. I wouldn't even want to work in that city anyway after graduation.



TTTTouro? Or perhaps New England Schooloflaw?

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Re: T4 full ride or T2 at $20k a year?

Postby angiej » Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:51 pm

xyzzzzzzzz wrote:20k a year before col expenses = 60k in debt. 60k in debt with poor job prospects > no debt and no job. Or no debt and maybe a job. Unless you have connections to the market you want to work in, I think the t4 is a gamble.

This is pretty much what I wanted to hear. I don't want to think I'm crazy for turning it down, but I only applied as safety. I had no clue they'd even consider me for a full ride.

The only connection in the T4 legal market I would have is the fact I have a family member who is the assistant (and has been for 20 years) to a circuit court of appeals judge who seems to adore me. That's it.

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Re: T4 full ride or T2 at $20k a year?

Postby angiej » Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:52 pm

bk1 wrote:
angiej wrote:
bk1 wrote:It depends. Are we talking about TTT's in overcrowded markets?

T2 is the only school in its market and its my first-choice school (even above Tier 1's). The T4 is in a shitty market, and is the lowest ranked among 7 other schools in the market. I wouldn't even want to work in that city anyway after graduation.


This is easy.

The cost of the T2 is completely justified due to it being your desired market and having a higher chance of landing you a job.


and I really want to live in the city of the T2. I would LOATHE having to be in the T4 school city. I'd be miserable for 3 years.

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Re: T4 full ride or T2 at $20k a year?

Postby angiej » Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:53 pm

reasonable_man wrote:
angiej wrote:
bk1 wrote:It depends. Are we talking about TTT's in overcrowded markets?

T2 is the only school in its market and its my first-choice school (even above Tier 1's). The T4 is in a shitty market, and is the lowest ranked among 7 other schools in the market. I wouldn't even want to work in that city anyway after graduation.



TTTTouro? Or perhaps New England Schooloflaw?

Nope, neither.

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Re: T4 full ride or T2 at $20k a year?

Postby reasonable_man » Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:58 pm

angiej wrote:
reasonable_man wrote:
angiej wrote:
bk1 wrote:It depends. Are we talking about TTT's in overcrowded markets?

T2 is the only school in its market and its my first-choice school (even above Tier 1's). The T4 is in a shitty market, and is the lowest ranked among 7 other schools in the market. I wouldn't even want to work in that city anyway after graduation.



TTTTouro? Or perhaps New England Schooloflaw?

Nope, neither.



Well this is no fun then.

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Re: T4 full ride or T2 at $20k a year?

Postby angiej » Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:00 pm

Any chance I could use the T4 scholly as leverage with the T2? Or is that quite a stretch?

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Re: T4 full ride or T2 at $20k a year?

Postby Aqualibrium » Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:03 pm

angiej wrote:Any chance I could use the T4 scholly as leverage with the T2? Or is that quite a stretch?

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Re: T4 full ride or T2 at $20k a year?

Postby ResolutePear » Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:03 pm

Just gotta put this out there:

Is the market Miami? Sounds like a situation down here in this market with FIU and UF.

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Re: T4 full ride or T2 at $20k a year?

Postby angiej » Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:07 pm

ResolutePear wrote:Just gotta put this out there:

Is the market Miami? Sounds like a situation down here in this market with FIU and UF.


Nope, but good guess. Its much colder.

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Re: T4 full ride or T2 at $20k a year?

Postby angiej » Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:08 pm

Two voters have chosen to take the T4 at the full ride . . . I wish they would contribute to the discussion or at the least PM Me.

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Re: T4 full ride or T2 at $20k a year?

Postby bk1 » Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:10 pm

Probably something like Michigan State versus some Chicago T4.

While the full ride is "free," do you really think that the cost in job prospects and being forced into a market you dislike is worth $60k?

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Re: T4 full ride or T2 at $20k a year?

Postby angiej » Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:20 pm

bk1 wrote:Probably something like Michigan State versus some Chicago T4.

While the full ride is "free," do you really think that the cost in job prospects and being forced into a market you dislike is worth $60k?


Mich State is T3, but your sorta close.

Your right, its def worth paying the $60k to be at my first choice school and in the market I want to be in. And who knows . . . maybe they will offer me something too, though I doubt it. I'm at their median.

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Re: T4 full ride or T2 at $20k a year?

Postby CanadianWolf » Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:27 pm

Tier 2.
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Re: T4 full ride or T2 at $20k a year?

Postby Richie Tenenbaum » Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:32 pm

angiej wrote:
bk1 wrote:It depends. Are we talking about TTT's in overcrowded markets?

T2 is the only school in its market and its my first-choice school (even above Tier 1's). The T4 is in a shitty market, and is the lowest ranked among 7 other schools in the market. I wouldn't even want to work in that city anyway after graduation.


^Voted before I saw this. Attending a T4 in a market you don't want to work is typically a terrible idea.




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