romothesavior wrote:skoobily doobily wrote:It definitely doesn't sound pretty, but % of students with SA's and NLJ jobs at graduation are the metrics to look at. If 60 firms show up to tulane looking for top 10% students, lots of firms simply won't give any SAs. If 29 firms show up to emory (including nearly every major firm in atlanta) looking to higher through the top quarter, emory will still fair better. The OCI numbers need to be qualified with more data, and standing alone are fairly useless to a degree. Which is why people need to stop crying bloody murder about emory until more relevant stats come in.
I agree that having that data would be nice, but unfortunately it will be years before we have that NLJ data for you.
And yes, an Emory vs. Tulane comparison would be difficult for the reason you mentioned, but Emory v. WUSTL/ND/UIUC/BU etc. comparison wouldn't be totally useless. If employers are looking to hire top 25% from Emory, why wouldn't they be looking at at least a similar number for their T20 peers like WUSTL, BU, UIUC, etc.? And as we see, WUSTL and BU (dunno about UIUC) have FAR more firms coming to OCI. As an Emory student, that would scare the heck outta me.
Not saying this is conclusive, and I agree we need % of class with SAs and NLJ numbers to take a concrete position, but it is at least troubling that so many firms are pulling out of Emory while peer schools are maintaining far higher numbers.
The thing is, you're making an unwarranted assumption here. Last year, Emory had 29 schools at OCI, exactly the same as this year. 2 years ago, the 2008 pre-ITE OCI had 61 firms including resume collection (they didn't have the 2008 breakdown between the two). This year including resume collection there are 73 firms. Two year's ago OCI led to 23.5% NLJ employment. Now, i'd be willing to bet the ratio of resume collection to actual interviewing has gone down, but it can't have been by enough to say that firms are dropping like flies out of Emory. OCI isn't collapsing in unheard of proportions like you think it is. i'll say it once again, OCI attendance in and of itself is fairly useless.