Michigan Sending Graduates to India

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Michigan Sending Graduates to India

Postby Voyager » Fri Jun 25, 2010 1:24 pm

... as contract attorneys.
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Seriously, at this point anyone applying to law school should reconsider the plan. The costs FAR outweigh the benefits.

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Re: Michigan Sending Graduates to India

Postby TCScrutinizer » Sun Jun 27, 2010 6:20 pm

There's no mention of the benefits of this position. How could you possibly weigh costs versus benefits without one half of the equation?

Unless you count moving to India as a massive negative in and of itself, which is pretty subjective.

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Re: Michigan Sending Graduates to India

Postby juevonate » Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:41 am

uh.....isn't everyone and their mom interested in practicing international law? It's relatively common for law schools to brag about sending their graduates to foreign countries, not to mention that with a comparative salary, quality of life can increase incredibly in developing countries like India.....

I see it as a positive.

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Re: Michigan Sending Graduates to India

Postby applepiecrust » Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:16 am

The article doesn't seem to indicate contract attorney (unless this is RC fail on my part). I don't see what's so awful about being an associate at a law firm in a developing country if it offers competitive benefits.

Also, I don't much about how any of this works, but doesn't simply posting on the job board =/= "Michigan SENDING its graduates there"?

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Re: Michigan Sending Graduates to India

Postby sundance95 » Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:25 am

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Re: Michigan Sending Graduates to India

Postby nycsoul87 » Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:29 am

juevonate wrote:uh.....isn't everyone and their mom interested in practicing international law? It's relatively common for law schools to brag about sending their graduates to foreign countries, not to mention that with a comparative salary, quality of life can increase incredibly in developing countries like India.....

I see it as a positive.




LOL bro, enjoy paying off that 150K debt with a 12K job practicing international document review law

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Re: Michigan Sending Graduates to India

Postby ScaredWorkedBored » Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:22 am

Also, I don't much about how any of this works, but doesn't simply posting on the job board =/= "Michigan SENDING its graduates there"?


That this would even be posted on a job board speaks volumes about how desperate they are to jack up the 9 months employment number. Lord only knows what schools will be doing with the "at graduation" number for 2010...

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Re: Michigan Sending Graduates to India

Postby motiontodismiss » Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:34 am

Just because Mich Law posts such a job doesn't mean the students don't have better options, nor does it mean that Mich can't do better.

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Re: Michigan Sending Graduates to India

Postby TCScrutinizer » Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:50 am

nycsoul87 wrote:
juevonate wrote:uh.....isn't everyone and their mom interested in practicing international law? It's relatively common for law schools to brag about sending their graduates to foreign countries, not to mention that with a comparative salary, quality of life can increase incredibly in developing countries like India.....

I see it as a positive.




LOL bro, enjoy paying off that 150K debt with a 12K job practicing international document review law


Where did you get the 12K figure from? Could you source that for me?

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Re: Michigan Sending Graduates to India

Postby 12262010 » Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:51 am

juevonate wrote:uh.....isn't everyone and their mom interested in practicing international law? It's relatively common for law schools to brag about sending their graduates to foreign countries, not to mention that with a comparative salary, quality of life can increase incredibly in developing countries like India.....

I see it as a positive.


international law isn't real

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Re: Michigan Sending Graduates to India

Postby rman1201 » Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:52 am

This whole ordeal has been exaggerated. Yes it's a terrible that any T14 grad could end up in India making $12,000 a year. But merely posting the job doesn't mean the bottom 60% of the class is going to end up working there. With 99.7% of graduates reporting, only 7 had international jobs, how many of those were for an Indian LPO is unknown. Any that do go are probably just looking for some sort of overseas experience for a year or two to make their resume look pretty.

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Re: Michigan Sending Graduates to India

Postby TCScrutinizer » Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:57 am

rman1201 wrote:This whole ordeal has been exaggerated. Yes it's a terrible that any T14 grad could end up in India making $12,000 a year. But merely posting the job doesn't mean the bottom 60% of the class is going to end up working there. With 99.7% of graduates reporting, only 7 had international jobs, how many of those were for an Indian LPO is unknown. Any that do go are probably just looking for some sort of overseas experience for a year or two to make their resume look pretty.


Thank you for the data.

I mean US$5,000 a year is a middle class life in many parts of India, but it sure doesn't seem like your student loans would get paid off any time soon with that sort of salary.

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Re: Michigan Sending Graduates to India

Postby PDaddy » Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:59 am

...and apparently recruiting students from prison. Jeez, what's next? :lol:

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Re: Michigan Sending Graduates to India

Postby rman1201 » Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:03 am

TCScrutinizer wrote:Thank you for the data.

I mean US$5,000 a year is a middle class life in many parts of India, but it sure doesn't seem like your student loans would get paid off any time soon with that sort of salary.


I mean it's not a bad gig if you go to Michigan on a full scholarship and have no debt. The work in India can be represented nicely on a resume and is a good way to get some experience if you don't have any success landing a firm job right away. The pay is better than CoL in India, the average disposable salary in India is only $5,400. Just don't do it with any debt...

Origninally wrote "Can be represented nicely for on an resume"... last time I write anything after 3 am

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Re: Michigan Sending Graduates to India

Postby TCScrutinizer » Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:34 am

rman1201 wrote:
TCScrutinizer wrote:Thank you for the data.

I mean US$5,000 a year is a middle class life in many parts of India, but it sure doesn't seem like your student loans would get paid off any time soon with that sort of salary.


I mean it's not a bad gig if you go to Michigan on a full scholarship and have no debt. The work in India can be represented nicely on a resume and is a good way to get some experience if you don't have any success landing a firm job right away. The pay is better than CoL in India, the average disposable salary in India is only $5,400. Just don't do it with any debt...

Origninally wrote "Can be represented nicely for on an resume"... last time I write anything after 3 am


Also better than no job at all, I would imagine. I'd do it if I had no better legal prospects, even with debt. You're screwed either way.

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Re: Michigan Sending Graduates to India

Postby applepiecrust » Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:40 am

Also, do LLM and JD students share the job posting board? If that's the case, this posting would make sense, since a lot of LLM students come from other countries.

(For instance, I know an LLM grad from UChicago coming back to India to work because he didn't get employment in the US)

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Re: Michigan Sending Graduates to India

Postby Reinhardt » Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:58 am

The salaries on that page seem to be for India-trained attorneys. Some students at Mich are from India, and others likely have a strong interest in India. Letting them know of a job there is hardly a crime.

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Re: Michigan Sending Graduates to India

Postby ppa840 » Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:09 pm

"The Growth of Legal Outsourcing: Passage to India"

http://www.economist.com/node/16439006

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Re: Michigan Sending Graduates to India

Postby Voyager » Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:10 pm

rman1201 wrote:This whole ordeal has been exaggerated. Yes it's a terrible that any T14 grad could end up in India making $12,000 a year. But merely posting the job doesn't mean the bottom 60% of the class is going to end up working there. With 99.7% of graduates reporting, only 7 had international jobs, how many of those were for an Indian LPO is unknown. Any that do go are probably just looking for some sort of overseas experience for a year or two to make their resume look pretty.


you think working at an Indian doc review shop is going to make your resume pretty?

hilarious.

the job posting is an indicator of dearth of employment opportunities out there. the fact that Michigan is posting it is scary.

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Re: Michigan Sending Graduates to India

Postby Jeff Mangum » Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:02 pm

TCScrutinizer wrote:
rman1201 wrote:
TCScrutinizer wrote:Thank you for the data.

I mean US$5,000 a year is a middle class life in many parts of India, but it sure doesn't seem like your student loans would get paid off any time soon with that sort of salary.


I mean it's not a bad gig if you go to Michigan on a full scholarship and have no debt. The work in India can be represented nicely on a resume and is a good way to get some experience if you don't have any success landing a firm job right away. The pay is better than CoL in India, the average disposable salary in India is only $5,400. Just don't do it with any debt...

Origninally wrote "Can be represented nicely for on an resume"... last time I write anything after 3 am


Also better than no job at all, I would imagine. I'd do it if I had no better legal prospects, even with debt. You're screwed either way.

At that salary, you would not have to pay back your debt under Michigan's LRAP, as long as it's full time legal work:
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