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Re: Which school between Harvard and UVA

Postby LoyolaLaw2012 » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:34 pm

This guy reminds me of Jesse J. Clark.

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Re: Which school between Harvard and UVA

Postby Solerpower » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:34 pm

cigrainger wrote:
Solerpower wrote:
cigrainger wrote:
IAFG wrote:he isn't saying he won't go to school where it's cold, he is asking which schools will let him practice where it's warm.


He said exactly that he won't go to school where it's cold, except maybe Harvard.


Yeah, where exactly did I say that, Chief? I didn't even mention temperature/climate ANYWHERE.

I don't want to practice anywhere cold. I don't care where the school is, just so long as it has solid reach in a warm area. Reading is important, reading comprehension is key!


Poor trolling skills.


and you have poor reading skills.

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Re: Which school between Harvard and UVA

Postby toolshed » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:35 pm

Solerpower wrote:You applied to what, 20 schools? I don't have $1000 to drop on applications. That would be frivolous and irresponsible.

It's dumb to limit myself to schools I would only attend? I understand schools have scholarship reciprocity, but give me a break. I'm trying to get feel for T10 schools and you tell me to apply everywhere. Is that the best choice? Sure. But not what i'm asking.


I didn't have Harvard numbers, and I only had to pay for one application. Fee waivers will be your friend.

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Re: Which school between Harvard and UVA

Postby Solerpower » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:35 pm

TheBigMediocre wrote:
Solerpower wrote:
cigrainger wrote:
IAFG wrote:he isn't saying he won't go to school where it's cold, he is asking which schools will let him practice where it's warm.


He said exactly that he won't go to school where it's cold, except maybe Harvard.


Yeah, where exactly did I say that, Chief? I didn't even mention temperature/climate ANYWHERE.

I don't want to practice anywhere cold. I don't care where the school is, just so long as it has solid reach in a warm area. Reading is important, reading comprehension is key!


With your criteria, I suggest that you...
1. Write the name of each T-14 on a slip of paper
2. Throw them in a hat.
3. Shake said hat.
4. Draw two.
5. Apply.


Thanks for being useless.

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Re: Which school between Harvard and UVA

Postby holydonkey » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:35 pm

I'm not sure which is better between the two, but make sure you only chose one when you apply. If you apply to both, one school might get jealous.

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Re: Which school between Harvard and UVA

Postby cigrainger » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:36 pm

TheBigMediocre wrote:
Solerpower wrote:
cigrainger wrote:
IAFG wrote:he isn't saying he won't go to school where it's cold, he is asking which schools will let him practice where it's warm.


He said exactly that he won't go to school where it's cold, except maybe Harvard.


Yeah, where exactly did I say that, Chief? I didn't even mention temperature/climate ANYWHERE.

I don't want to practice anywhere cold. I don't care where the school is, just so long as it has solid reach in a warm area. Reading is important, reading comprehension is key!


With your criteria, I suggest that you...
1. Write the name of each T-14 on a slip of paper
2. Throw them in a hat.
3. Shake said hat.
4. Draw two.
5. Apply.


I have a better process for him:

1. Actually look at the list of the T-14 and where they are located.
2. Realize that they all have at least some national reach.
3. Shut up and read the boards before asking stupid questions, then harassing people.

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Re: Which school between Harvard and UVA

Postby Solerpower » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:37 pm

IAFG wrote:
Solerpower wrote:You applied to what, 20 schools? I don't have $1000 to drop on applications. That would be frivolous and irresponsible.

It's dumb to limit myself to schools I would only attend? I understand schools have scholarship reciprocity, but give me a break. I'm trying to get feel for T10 schools and you tell me to apply everywhere. Is that the best choice? Sure. But not what i'm asking.

my story: i got into UVA, GULC and NU, no aid at any. NU told me I was screwed re aid. then, like, two weeks before my deposit was due at NU, GULC offered me aid. a lot. i told NU, and *BAM* $50k. which is more than $1k. by a decent amount. lessons: apply to the peer schools of your targets, and don't withdraw until the bitter end. doing otherwise would be "frivolous and irresponsible" since you know this is how law school aid negotiations works.

edit: i never wanted to go to GULC. the campus makes me hyperventilate from claustrophobia.


Good for you. That's not what i'm going to do, however. I plan on applying to schools I plan on attending for various personal reasons which include a S.O. applying to graduate schools where I am applying. I'm simply trying to get an answer; an attempt which apparently is lost.

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Re: Which school between Harvard and UVA

Postby cigrainger » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:38 pm

holydonkey wrote:I'm not sure which is better between the two, but make sure you only chose one when you apply. If you apply to both, one school might get jealous.


I would not even apply to one if I were him, because neither Harvard nor UVA fit his ideals.

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Re: Which school between Harvard and UVA

Postby cigrainger » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:40 pm

Solerpower wrote:
IAFG wrote:
Solerpower wrote:You applied to what, 20 schools? I don't have $1000 to drop on applications. That would be frivolous and irresponsible.

It's dumb to limit myself to schools I would only attend? I understand schools have scholarship reciprocity, but give me a break. I'm trying to get feel for T10 schools and you tell me to apply everywhere. Is that the best choice? Sure. But not what i'm asking.

my story: i got into UVA, GULC and NU, no aid at any. NU told me I was screwed re aid. then, like, two weeks before my deposit was due at NU, GULC offered me aid. a lot. i told NU, and *BAM* $50k. which is more than $1k. by a decent amount. lessons: apply to the peer schools of your targets, and don't withdraw until the bitter end. doing otherwise would be "frivolous and irresponsible" since you know this is how law school aid negotiations works.

edit: i never wanted to go to GULC. the campus makes me hyperventilate from claustrophobia.


Good for you. That's not what i'm going to do, however. I plan on applying to schools I plan on attending for various personal reasons which include a S.O. applying to graduate schools where I am applying. I'm simply trying to get an answer; an attempt which apparently is lost.


You could try here: http://www.top-law-schools.com/rankings.html
Last edited by cigrainger on Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:43 pm, edited 3 times in total.

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Re: Which school between Harvard and UVA

Postby IAFG » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:41 pm

Solerpower wrote:Good for you. That's not what i'm going to do, however. I plan on applying to schools I plan on attending for various personal reasons which include a S.O. applying to graduate schools where I am applying. I'm simply trying to get an answer; an attempt which apparently is lost.

it's not lost you're just being stupid. apparently willfully stupid.

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Re: Which school between Harvard and UVA

Postby Solerpower » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:41 pm

1. Actually look at the list of the T-14 and where they are located.
2. Realize that they all have at least some national reach.
3. Shut up and read the boards before asking stupid questions, then harassing people.


It's not that simply and you know it. Stop trying to act as if looking at a list/map will do the trick.

Applying everywhere brings me back to the SAME EXACT SPOT. Everyone insists on being an pompous jerk and refusing to answer the question directly. Thanks for you lack of help, i'm probably better of without it.

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Re: Which school between Harvard and UVA

Postby romothesavior » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:42 pm

Since you're being a moron with your law school future and being a royal d-bag to those offering advice (especially IAFG), I'll offer my advice:

http://www.top-law-schools.com/rankings.html

There you go moron.

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Re: Which school between Harvard and UVA

Postby cigrainger » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:43 pm

Solerpower wrote:
1. Actually look at the list of the T-14 and where they are located.
2. Realize that they all have at least some national reach.
3. Shut up and read the boards before asking stupid questions, then harassing people.


It's not that simply and you know it. Stop trying to act as if looking at a list/map will do the trick.

Applying everywhere brings me back to the SAME EXACT SPOT. Everyone insists on being an pompous jerk and refusing to answer the question directly. Thanks for you lack of help, i'm probably better of without it.


Considering that logical reasoning, reading comprehension, and good writing skills are important for law school, I suggest you rethink your decision to apply.

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Re: Which school between Harvard and UVA

Postby Solerpower » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:43 pm

IAFG wrote:
Solerpower wrote:Good for you. That's not what i'm going to do, however. I plan on applying to schools I plan on attending for various personal reasons which include a S.O. applying to graduate schools where I am applying. I'm simply trying to get an answer; an attempt which apparently is lost.

it's not lost you're just being stupid. apparently willfully stupid.


I apply to 20 schools, S.O. applies to 40. I'm not following your advice, get over it. That is not stupid, it's what's best for me.

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Re: Which school between Harvard and UVA

Postby starlight007 » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:43 pm

I can't believe someone with 200 posts would actually start such a stupid thread. :roll:

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Re: Which school between Harvard and UVA

Postby acrossthelake » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:43 pm

Solerpower wrote:
IAFG wrote:
Solerpower wrote:You applied to what, 20 schools? I don't have $1000 to drop on applications. That would be frivolous and irresponsible.

It's dumb to limit myself to schools I would only attend? I understand schools have scholarship reciprocity, but give me a break. I'm trying to get feel for T10 schools and you tell me to apply everywhere. Is that the best choice? Sure. But not what i'm asking.

my story: i got into UVA, GULC and NU, no aid at any. NU told me I was screwed re aid. then, like, two weeks before my deposit was due at NU, GULC offered me aid. a lot. i told NU, and *BAM* $50k. which is more than $1k. by a decent amount. lessons: apply to the peer schools of your targets, and don't withdraw until the bitter end. doing otherwise would be "frivolous and irresponsible" since you know this is how law school aid negotiations works.

edit: i never wanted to go to GULC. the campus makes me hyperventilate from claustrophobia.


Good for you. That's not what i'm going to do, however. I plan on applying to schools I plan on attending for various personal reasons which include a S.O. applying to graduate schools where I am applying. I'm simply trying to get an answer; an attempt which apparently is lost.


I answered your question already many posts ago...

Your criteria:
1) Between Harvard and UVA
Okay that's Stanford, Columbia, UChicago, NYU, Berkeley, Duke, UPenn, UMichigan, Duke, Northwestern.
2) That lets you practice somewhere that's not cold afterwards.
Okay that's Stanford, Columbia, UChicago, NYU, Berkeley, Duke, UPenn, UMichigan, Duke, Northwestern.

You don't give any more criteria, there's nothing to narrow it down further.

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Re: Which school between Harvard and UVA

Postby Solerpower » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:44 pm

cigrainger wrote:
Solerpower wrote:
1. Actually look at the list of the T-14 and where they are located.
2. Realize that they all have at least some national reach.
3. Shut up and read the boards before asking stupid questions, then harassing people.


It's not that simply and you know it. Stop trying to act as if looking at a list/map will do the trick.

Applying everywhere brings me back to the SAME EXACT SPOT. Everyone insists on being an pompous jerk and refusing to answer the question directly. Thanks for you lack of help, i'm probably better of without it.


Considering that logical reasoning, reading comprehension, and good writing skills are important for law school, I suggest you rethink your decision to apply.


Coming from the individual who can't read, i'll take what you have to say with an enormous grain of salt.

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Re: Which school between Harvard and UVA

Postby cigrainger » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:44 pm

acrossthelake wrote:
Solerpower wrote:
IAFG wrote:
Solerpower wrote:You applied to what, 20 schools? I don't have $1000 to drop on applications. That would be frivolous and irresponsible.

It's dumb to limit myself to schools I would only attend? I understand schools have scholarship reciprocity, but give me a break. I'm trying to get feel for T10 schools and you tell me to apply everywhere. Is that the best choice? Sure. But not what i'm asking.

my story: i got into UVA, GULC and NU, no aid at any. NU told me I was screwed re aid. then, like, two weeks before my deposit was due at NU, GULC offered me aid. a lot. i told NU, and *BAM* $50k. which is more than $1k. by a decent amount. lessons: apply to the peer schools of your targets, and don't withdraw until the bitter end. doing otherwise would be "frivolous and irresponsible" since you know this is how law school aid negotiations works.

edit: i never wanted to go to GULC. the campus makes me hyperventilate from claustrophobia.


Good for you. That's not what i'm going to do, however. I plan on applying to schools I plan on attending for various personal reasons which include a S.O. applying to graduate schools where I am applying. I'm simply trying to get an answer; an attempt which apparently is lost.


I answered your question already many posts ago...

Your criteria:
1) Between Harvard and UVA
Okay that's Stanford, Columbia, UChicago, NYU, Berkeley, Duke, UPenn, UMichigan, Duke, Northwestern.
2) That lets you practice somewhere that's not cold afterwards.
Okay that's Stanford, Columbia, UChicago, NYU, Berkeley, Duke, UPenn, UMichigan, Duke, Northwestern.

You don't give any more criteria, there's nothing to narrow it down further.


Exactly.

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Re: Which school between Harvard and UVA

Postby cigrainger » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:45 pm

Solerpower wrote:
cigrainger wrote:
Solerpower wrote:
1. Actually look at the list of the T-14 and where they are located.
2. Realize that they all have at least some national reach.
3. Shut up and read the boards before asking stupid questions, then harassing people.


It's not that simply and you know it. Stop trying to act as if looking at a list/map will do the trick.

Applying everywhere brings me back to the SAME EXACT SPOT. Everyone insists on being an pompous jerk and refusing to answer the question directly. Thanks for you lack of help, i'm probably better of without it.


Considering that logical reasoning, reading comprehension, and good writing skills are important for law school, I suggest you rethink your decision to apply.


Coming from the individual who can't read, i'll take what you have to say with an enormous grain of salt.

:roll: :lol:

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Re: Which school between Harvard and UVA

Postby Solerpower » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:45 pm

acrossthelake wrote:
Solerpower wrote:
IAFG wrote:
Solerpower wrote:You applied to what, 20 schools? I don't have $1000 to drop on applications. That would be frivolous and irresponsible.

It's dumb to limit myself to schools I would only attend? I understand schools have scholarship reciprocity, but give me a break. I'm trying to get feel for T10 schools and you tell me to apply everywhere. Is that the best choice? Sure. But not what i'm asking.

my story: i got into UVA, GULC and NU, no aid at any. NU told me I was screwed re aid. then, like, two weeks before my deposit was due at NU, GULC offered me aid. a lot. i told NU, and *BAM* $50k. which is more than $1k. by a decent amount. lessons: apply to the peer schools of your targets, and don't withdraw until the bitter end. doing otherwise would be "frivolous and irresponsible" since you know this is how law school aid negotiations works.

edit: i never wanted to go to GULC. the campus makes me hyperventilate from claustrophobia.


Good for you. That's not what i'm going to do, however. I plan on applying to schools I plan on attending for various personal reasons which include a S.O. applying to graduate schools where I am applying. I'm simply trying to get an answer; an attempt which apparently is lost.


I answered your question already many posts ago...

Your criteria:
1) Between Harvard and UVA
Okay that's Stanford, Columbia, UChicago, NYU, Berkeley, Duke, UPenn, UMichigan, Duke, Northwestern.
2) That lets you practice somewhere that's not cold afterwards.
Okay that's Stanford, Columbia, UChicago, NYU, Berkeley, Duke, UPenn, UMichigan, Duke, Northwestern.

You don't give any more criteria, there's nothing to narrow it down further.


You have just taken irrelevance to a new level. I understand that they all give me options, but which one gives me the BEST option. Is this THAT difficult to understand?

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Re: Which school between Harvard and UVA

Postby toolshed » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:45 pm

acrossthelake wrote:
Solerpower wrote:
IAFG wrote:
Solerpower wrote:You applied to what, 20 schools? I don't have $1000 to drop on applications. That would be frivolous and irresponsible.

It's dumb to limit myself to schools I would only attend? I understand schools have scholarship reciprocity, but give me a break. I'm trying to get feel for T10 schools and you tell me to apply everywhere. Is that the best choice? Sure. But not what i'm asking.

my story: i got into UVA, GULC and NU, no aid at any. NU told me I was screwed re aid. then, like, two weeks before my deposit was due at NU, GULC offered me aid. a lot. i told NU, and *BAM* $50k. which is more than $1k. by a decent amount. lessons: apply to the peer schools of your targets, and don't withdraw until the bitter end. doing otherwise would be "frivolous and irresponsible" since you know this is how law school aid negotiations works.

edit: i never wanted to go to GULC. the campus makes me hyperventilate from claustrophobia.


Good for you. That's not what i'm going to do, however. I plan on applying to schools I plan on attending for various personal reasons which include a S.O. applying to graduate schools where I am applying. I'm simply trying to get an answer; an attempt which apparently is lost.


I answered your question already many posts ago...

Your criteria:
1) Between Harvard and UVA
Okay that's Stanford, Columbia, UChicago, NYU, Berkeley, Duke, UPenn, UMichigan, Duke, Northwestern.
2) That lets you practice somewhere that's not cold afterwards.
Okay that's Stanford, Columbia, UChicago, NYU, Berkeley, Duke, UPenn, UMichigan, Duke, Northwestern.

You don't give any more criteria, there's nothing to narrow it down further.


This. I don't see what is so difficult.

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Re: Which school between Harvard and UVA

Postby IAFG » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:46 pm

Solerpower wrote:
IAFG wrote:
Solerpower wrote:Good for you. That's not what i'm going to do, however. I plan on applying to schools I plan on attending for various personal reasons which include a S.O. applying to graduate schools where I am applying. I'm simply trying to get an answer; an attempt which apparently is lost.

it's not lost you're just being stupid. apparently willfully stupid.


I apply to 20 schools, S.O. applies to 40. I'm not following your advice, get over it. That is not stupid, it's what's best for me.

i am not telling you to attend a school that is a bad fit. i am giving you some very useful advice on how to not get fucked on aid. not getting fucked on aid is what's best for everyone. i can't think of anyone who's better off getting fucked on aid. i guess someone whose parents are footing the bill who hates their parents?

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Re: Which school between Harvard and UVA

Postby Hiei » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:47 pm

All the schools in the range you mention are not particularly known for placing into the regions you desire to practice. That being said I would definitely put Columbia and Chicago over NYU and Berkeley for the areas where you want to end up. Columbia and Chicago have a stronger nationwide reputation than NYU and Berkeley (really for where you want to practice UVA's rep is going to be at least as good as NYU and Boalt). Honestly for practicing in the south UVA + ties isn't going to be significantly outclassed by any schools except HYS. Basically Chicago and Columbia are the two schools you need to apply to in that range based off of your criteria.

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Re: Which school between Harvard and UVA

Postby acrossthelake » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:47 pm

Solerpower wrote:
I answered your question already many posts ago...

Your criteria:
1) Between Harvard and UVA
Okay that's Stanford, Columbia, UChicago, NYU, Berkeley, Duke, UPenn, UMichigan, Duke, Northwestern.
2) That lets you practice somewhere that's not cold afterwards.
Okay that's Stanford, Columbia, UChicago, NYU, Berkeley, Duke, UPenn, UMichigan, Duke, Northwestern.

You don't give any more criteria, there's nothing to narrow it down further.


You have just taken irrelevance to a new level. I understand that they all give me options, but which one gives me the BEST option. Is this THAT difficult to understand?[/quote]

Wow. You're so rude. Anyway, the answer is the highest ranked one. So basically that list in the order I told you.

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Re: Which school between Harvard and UVA

Postby Solerpower » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:48 pm

Hiei wrote:All the schools in the range you mention are not particularly known for placing into the regions you desire to practice. That being said I would definitely put Columbia and Chicago over NYU and Berkeley for the areas where you want to end up. Columbia and Chicago have a stronger nationwide reputation than NYU and Berkeley (really for where you want to practice UVA's rep is going to be at least as good as NYU and Boalt). Honestly for practicing in the south UVA + ties isn't going to be significantly outclassed by any schools except HYS. Basically Chicago and Columbia are the two schools you need to apply to in that range based off of your criteria.


Thank you so much. This is what I wanted to hear. I appreciate your help.




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