lostjake wrote:Foosters Galore wrote:lostjake wrote:Foosters Galore wrote:Has anyone considered that everyone has a different motivation for selecting an educational or career path? I just dont understand some of these views here on TLS. Ive seen liberal arts degrees incessantly vilified because of their lack of potential earning power. Ive seen people told to flat out withdraw from the T2 where they're paying sticker because they're destined to be calling the parents' basement home. Ive seen people told to remain in the their current profession (even though they have a pronounced hatred for it) because after doing the math, someone has figured out they will save 2,111.87 over the next 43 years by forgoing law school.
What is wrong with you people? I must have missed the header at the top of the applications that stated money is the sole reason for coming to our school. Passion for law? Interest in serving the community? Lifelong dream of working in a niche only accessible via a JD? Pssshhh. You gotta be kidding me. Such people don't exist. And if one is brave enough to crawl out of the woodwork here on TLS he is told to retake, try again next year. I understand expectations tempered by reality, but it has become ridiculous. I'm a splitter and was told "wait till next year", "don't go to any of the lower T2s I applied to", and "apply to WUSL, Northwestern, etc., next year." Never mind that I have a committed interest in working in Southern California, "I would be foolish to pay sticker at a place like Pepperdine or USD". So instead, I guess I'll avoid the discomfort of a substantial loan payments to abandon a career path that I though would be fulfilling; so that I may remain in a field I dislike so I can go home after my soul crushing job and think, "man, I really fucking hate my job, but at least Ive got this extra money saved up." Yes, I realize there are ways out of disagreeable careers other than law school. It just seems too often we look at this decision solely in a "cost vs. potential income" fashion. We fail to consider the myriad factors that may drive someone into law.
You want advice on how to gently break it to your friend that in your opinion (an opinion void of any actual experience) he/she is ruining his/her life? Simply email him/her the WSJ article about the poor guy from NU. If she goes chicken little as effortlessly as most around here, she'll make the right call on her own.
FWIW I think you should go either go to a T14 or go somewhere free, whether that be a TTT TTT or T1. So really suspect that is going to a TTTT might be better off than the OP, both of whom should think really hard about going. 2nd, you complain about people knocking liberal arts degrees, and then you go on to say that you dislike your soul crushing job. No connection there? For some reason our generation seems to think that more education means more earning power/better life, probably because thats what our grade school teachers hammered into our heads, which is surely not the case. Some people do make a mistake by going into liberal arts degrees thinking that they're going to be making some kind of mega bucks, and then when IRL hits they think if they spend more money on an equally worthless degree that they'll somehow be making things better. Also, my advice to you would be not to go into law school at all unless its YHSB. LA is exteremely over saturated with legal talent. If you have an interest in serving the community you can pick up trash or teach english as a second langauge at night, there are other ways to do it than getting your JD. And as far as the niche job that requires a JD? You'll probably not get that by going to your schools. But like I said, people take a gamble on going to that liberal arts college, and then they roll the dice again on law school. Good luck!
No, there is not a connection there, to answer your question. I don't really feel like going into it now, but to say my story is somewhat different would be an understatement. Not different as in special and unique, just different. My statement about serving the community was intentionally general, as I perhaps incorrectly assumed readers would not presume "serving the community" to be as broad a statement as to include being a garbage man. You are the poster I was referring to when I mentioned those disparaging liberal arts degrees. I have a degree in history, it has earned me $0.0. I consider it far from worthless and wouldn't change things if I could. We obviously look at things differently. You seem to view one's UG as a means to an end, the end being a healthy income. Thats fine. I see things much differently. If you don't mind me asking, how old are you, what was your major, and where are you going to LS?
Oh, and in regard to your statement about our generation thinking more edu = more $. Is this not the case? I am aware that a higher education may not mean what it used to, but is one not statistically speaking looking at a larger income with a college degree vs. one who has none?
You say that your history degree has given you zero dollars, but that more edu is more $$$. So really if I was straight out of high school I would have made more than you, because you had to spend dollars to get the degree.
Secondly those statistics that you were spoon fed as a child are sadly wrong. Consider this: Most intelligent people, while right or wrong, want to go to college. I'm not saying that there aren't intelligent people who don't, and maybe they're more intelligent than some getting liberal arts degrees, but if you take the VAST majority of intelligent people out of the pool, who would you expect to make more money, even if they started 4 years behind all the others. Hmmmmmmmmmm.
Spoon fed as a child? What's the deal with the holier than thou schtick? Very impressive. And by the way, even with your hypothetical being true, that still does not disprove the statistics. It doesnt even matter. I simply asked an honest question and you responded like an ass. I dont care one way or the other about educations correlation with $.