Harvard v. UChicago

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UChicago
70
29%
Harvard
174
71%
 
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Re: Harvard v. UChicago

Postby miamiman » Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:55 am

doyleoil wrote:
miamiman wrote: V10 or bust?


Higher offer rates.
Fewer deferrals.
Less lathaming.

All of it kinda converges to make the truly quality firms look better than they used to, eh?


Aren't we sorta past the no-offering/lathaming stage of ITE? Even deferrals. Arent' those supposed to have worked their way through the system by the time c/o 2012 graduates?

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Re: Harvard v. UChicago

Postby sanpiero » Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:57 am

please take the money

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Re: Harvard v. UChicago

Postby doyleoil » Wed Jun 16, 2010 11:02 am

miamiman wrote:
doyleoil wrote:
miamiman wrote: V10 or bust?


Higher offer rates.
Fewer deferrals.
Less lathaming.

All of it kinda converges to make the truly quality firms look better than they used to, eh?


Aren't we sorta past the no-offering/lathaming stage of ITE? Even deferrals. Arent' those supposed to have worked their way through the system by the time c/o 2012 graduates?


Maybe. Or maybe all of it says something about the stability of a firm going forward. Of course, who knows, Latham might have the last laugh. Maybe a bit of ruthlessness made them leaner, tighter, and more efficient for the future. But of course if they can't recruit good people, it doesn't really matter.

I don't know enough about law firm economics, that much is clear.

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Re: Harvard v. UChicago

Postby romothesavior » Wed Jun 16, 2010 11:03 am

Didn't you have 2 weeks to decide... three weeks ago?

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Re: Harvard v. UChicago

Postby Emma. » Wed Jun 16, 2010 11:09 am

IAFG wrote:STFU EMMA


sorry IAFG :oops:

IAFG wrote:how about instead i forget law school, get my R.N. and raise our kids?


Apparently there is about as much work for new grad R.N.s as there is for lawyers right now. :|

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Re: Harvard v. UChicago

Postby IAFG » Wed Jun 16, 2010 12:31 pm

Emma. wrote:how about instead i forget law school, get my R.N. and raise our kids?

Apparently there is about as much work for new grad R.N.s as there is for lawyers right now. :|[/quote]
oh? someone pls tell my mother ASAP so she stops telling me to get a cut of the medical pie then :mrgreen:

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Re: Harvard v. UChicago

Postby JollyGreenGiant » Wed Jun 16, 2010 8:36 pm

miamiman wrote:
mallard wrote:If you want to go into firm work, you take the money here.


Describe a scenario in which you'd advise going to HLS

Public office aspirations. That'd be it. And even that is not worth the $140k-ish.

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Re: Harvard v. UChicago

Postby swimbrad » Sun Jun 20, 2010 3:46 pm

With today being the last day to make a decision... I was wondering if anyone else had any more input...

I'm prly leaning slightly towards UChi... but nervous about passing up the holy grail that is Harvard for a measly $135k

Thanks!!

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Re: Harvard v. UChicago

Postby 09042014 » Sun Jun 20, 2010 3:50 pm

swimbrad wrote:With today being the last day to make a decision... I was wondering if anyone else had any more input...

I'm prly leaning slightly towards UChi... but nervous about passing up the holy grail that is Harvard for a measly $135k

Thanks!!


Go look up the loan payments on 135K over 10 years. Uchi it is.

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Re: Harvard v. UChicago

Postby swimbrad » Sun Jun 20, 2010 3:51 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
swimbrad wrote:With today being the last day to make a decision... I was wondering if anyone else had any more input...

I'm prly leaning slightly towards UChi... but nervous about passing up the holy grail that is Harvard for a measly $135k

Thanks!!


Go look up the loan payments on 135K over 10 years. Uchi it is.

Thanks DF - I was wondering if you're opinion would change since the beginning of this thread - appreciate you stopping by

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Re: Harvard v. UChicago

Postby someones alt » Sun Jun 20, 2010 4:48 pm

I'd take Chicago in a heartbeat if they offered me that scholarship, but they were cheap with me

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Re: Harvard v. UChicago

Postby 09042014 » Sun Jun 20, 2010 4:55 pm

APimpNamedSlickback wrote:its pretty tough not to take uchicago unless you are gunning for the absolute most uber prestigious things you can do with a law degree. so if you want clerk on the supreme court or something like that, you should still take harvard. also, if youve got any political ambitions, same deal. but for 99% of people, chicago is the credited choice in this scenario.

fwiw, i'd turn down a full ride at chicago for sticker at h.


It's well known you lack rigor.

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Re: Harvard v. UChicago

Postby mallard » Sun Jun 20, 2010 4:58 pm

APimpNamedSlickback wrote:its pretty tough not to take uchicago unless you are gunning for the absolute most uber prestigious things you can do with a law degree. so if you want clerk on the supreme court or something like that, you should still take harvard. also, if youve got any political ambitions, same deal. but for 99% of people, chicago is the credited choice in this scenario.

fwiw, i'd turn down a full ride at chicago for sticker at h.


I don't think this is right. I'm not really sure it's that much easier to clerk at SCOTUS from Harvard than from Chicago (Chicago is small, less competitive student body intellectually, 7th Circuit connections, top professors). As for political ambitions, the mobility and flexibility you have with no debt is probably a much better route to the types of first jobs that can get you politically involved than BIGLAW is.

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Re: Harvard v. UChicago

Postby doyleoil » Sun Jun 20, 2010 5:06 pm

mallard wrote:[(Chicago is small, less competitive student body intellectually)


such a cheap shot, mallard ;)

i mean, i know us midwestern country rubes can't compete with the high-falutin east coast and its cadre of brilliant, but highly mentally disturbed, geniuses

so i'll just say that i know y'all have more than your share of dumbs out there (i know because us midwesterners sent them there)

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Re: Harvard v. UChicago

Postby mallard » Sun Jun 20, 2010 5:10 pm

doyleoil wrote:
mallard wrote:[(Chicago is small, less competitive student body intellectually)


such a cheap shot, mallard ;)

i mean, i know us midwestern country rubes can't compete with the high-falutin east coast and its cadre of brilliant, but highly mentally disturbed, geniuses

so i'll just say that i know y'all have more than your share of dumbs out there (i know because us midwesterners sent them there)


haha. I was hoping you'd catch that. ;)

Seriously, though, I do think Chicago's clerkship placement is one of the exceptions to my general rule that attending the higher school is always better because differences in student-body talent don't quite match differences in prestige and placement.

APNS, I don't really know much about the HLS alumni network and seeking elected office. Can you give me an example of how this would play out? I have friends at school who are considering running for office, and I used to consider it myself (lulz), but it's not as though I get to vote in my friend's election for District Attorney somewhere in Kansas just because I went to Harvard Law.

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Re: Harvard v. UChicago

Postby CanadianWolf » Sun Jun 20, 2010 5:24 pm

Chicago.

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Re: Harvard v. UChicago

Postby mallard » Sun Jun 20, 2010 5:25 pm

APimpNamedSlickback wrote:all of my dc friends that are into politics tell me to obsessively keep peoples' business cards so that i can eventually hit them up for donations. it seems like going to school there helps with that sort of thing. as an example, in his senate and potus campaigns, obama leveraged the hell out of hls people for cash and intellectual support.


Yeah, this might be true, but I don't really think Obama's HLR buddies were major bundlers or contributors compared to Oprah and Warren Buffett etc. Maybe in his early campaigns for the state senate, the House, and the Senate.

Also, frankly, I fucking hate the idea of doing this, which is why I'm not sure I can ever run for anything.

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Re: Harvard v. UChicago

Postby swimbrad » Sun Jun 20, 2010 5:45 pm

Yea - I could never make it in politics..

APNS - I think that the lay prestige of Harvard is one of the major things keeping it in the race (whether or not it should is probably an irrelevant question). I definitely decided it was worth 60k... but is it worth 135k+interest... that my friend is the question

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Re: Harvard v. UChicago

Postby someones alt » Mon Jun 21, 2010 5:09 pm

So you said yesterday was the last day for a decision, and I'm curious what choice you ended up making

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Re: Harvard v. UChicago

Postby swimbrad » Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:35 pm

someones alt wrote:So you said yesterday was the last day for a decision, and I'm curious what choice you ended up making

Sorry for the delay... I wanted to wait until it was official (although I thought when I said I was going to Harvard it was official...

but - UChicago was the choice - I just couldn't turn down that kind of money for what I want to do (hopefully I'll agree with this analysis in three years)

thanks again to everyone who contributed their opinion, they were (mostly) very helpful

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Re: Harvard v. UChicago

Postby hiromoto45 » Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:38 pm

swimbrad wrote:
someones alt wrote:So you said yesterday was the last day for a decision, and I'm curious what choice you ended up making

Sorry for the delay... I wanted to wait until it was official (although I thought when I said I was going to Harvard it was official...

but - UChicago was the choice - I just couldn't turn down that kind of money for what I want to do (hopefully I'll agree with this analysis in three years)

thanks again to everyone who contributed their opinion, they were (mostly) very helpful


Congrats!

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Re: Harvard v. UChicago

Postby Unitas » Tue Jun 22, 2010 7:25 pm

swimbrad wrote:
someones alt wrote:So you said yesterday was the last day for a decision, and I'm curious what choice you ended up making

Sorry for the delay... I wanted to wait until it was official (although I thought when I said I was going to Harvard it was official...

but - UChicago was the choice - I just couldn't turn down that kind of money for what I want to do (hopefully I'll agree with this analysis in three years)

thanks again to everyone who contributed their opinion, they were (mostly) very helpful


Honestly man, you couldn't go wrong. Congrats.




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