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Any risk in telling a school you're unhappy with them?

Postby Regionality » Sun May 23, 2010 8:15 pm

Hi all,

So I am withdrawing from a school today and in the end I have felt they have handled their admissions process with me pretty terribly. Is there a risk in sending them a withdrawal email and giving them a polite piece of my mind in the withdrawal? I feel like I have nothing to lose with regards to this specific school, and the only risk might be if they told other schools.

Should these adcoms be told when we're unhappy?

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Re: Any risk in telling a school you're unhappy with them?

Postby Mr. Matlock » Sun May 23, 2010 8:18 pm

Regionality wrote:Hi all,

So I am withdrawing from a school today and in the end I have felt they have handled their admissions process with me pretty terribly. Is there a risk in sending them a withdrawal email and giving them a polite piece of my mind in the withdrawal? I feel like I have nothing to lose with regards to this specific school, and the only risk might be if they told other schools.

Should these adcoms be told when we're unhappy?

If everything you say is factual, what are they going to do, take away your birthday? That being said, they probably couldn't give 2 shits what you think. Knock yourself out kid!!

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Re: Any risk in telling a school you're unhappy with them?

Postby GATORTIM » Sun May 23, 2010 8:23 pm

send a 2nd anonymous letter/email venting your frustration if you think it will make you feel better

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Re: Any risk in telling a school you're unhappy with them?

Postby Regionality » Sun May 23, 2010 8:25 pm

GATORTIM wrote:send a 2nd anonymous letter/email venting your frustration if you think it will make you feel better


I sign my name to things when they matter.

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Re: Any risk in telling a school you're unhappy with them?

Postby GATORTIM » Sun May 23, 2010 8:40 pm

Regionality wrote:
GATORTIM wrote:send a 2nd anonymous letter/email venting your frustration if you think it will make you feel better


I sign my name to things when they matter.


then send them a signed letter/email venting your frustration if you think it will make you feel better

Tim.

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Re: Any risk in telling a school you're unhappy with them?

Postby TheBigMediocre » Sun May 23, 2010 8:41 pm

Regionality wrote:
GATORTIM wrote:send a 2nd anonymous letter/email venting your frustration if you think it will make you feel better


I sign my name to things when they matter.


So you wouldn't want to sign your name in this case then, right?

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Re: Any risk in telling a school you're unhappy with them?

Postby VerdiShmerdi » Sun May 23, 2010 8:43 pm

I did this to a T-14 this year. I expressed my displeasure and pointed out that peer institutions handled matters in a much classier way. I received an e-mail from the Dean of Admissions in response to my concerns, and I thought the whole thing was rather baller.

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Re: Any risk in telling a school you're unhappy with them?

Postby Regionality » Sun May 23, 2010 8:46 pm

TheBigMediocre wrote:
Regionality wrote:
GATORTIM wrote:send a 2nd anonymous letter/email venting your frustration if you think it will make you feel better


I sign my name to things when they matter.


So you wouldn't want to sign your name in this case then, right?


Well, I would want to sign my name because it wouldn't be fair to tell them I had a bad experience with them but they have no idea who I am....how would they have any idea what situation I was referring to?

Does this matter a lot? No...but I wouldnt send an anonymous complaint to a law school admissions dept...

These places probably very rarely get letters of critique from those they accepted, though they may very well get them and not give a crap about them...but maybe someone would read it and treat someone differently next cycle.

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Re: Any risk in telling a school you're unhappy with them?

Postby doomed123 » Sun May 23, 2010 8:47 pm

VerdiShmerdi wrote:I did this to a T-14 this year. I expressed my displeasure and pointed out that peer institutions handled matters in a much classier way. I received an e-mail from the Dean of Admissions in response to my concerns, and I thought the whole thing was rather baller.


How did the Dean of Admissions respond?

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Re: Any risk in telling a school you're unhappy with them?

Postby Regionality » Sun May 23, 2010 8:48 pm

VerdiShmerdi wrote:I did this to a T-14 this year. I expressed my displeasure and pointed out that peer institutions handled matters in a much classier way. I received an e-mail from the Dean of Admissions in response to my concerns, and I thought the whole thing was rather baller.


Nice...this would be an ideal result

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Re: Any risk in telling a school you're unhappy with them?

Postby Matthies » Sun May 23, 2010 9:07 pm

Some advice. Your legal reputation starts now. if you feel you were wronged as a customer, and can write a decent, professional letter with a critique and suggestions from your experience with other schools. then do it. By snail mail addressed to the Dean of Admissions personally. Write the letter, sit on it for a few days, let a 3rd part read it, then MAIL it.

Or you could e-mail it. The person reading it could A- forward it to the dean, B- think you're going after their job and delete it, C- Send to their friends at other law schools, D- forward it to ATL where they post "Pretentious OL tells law school to be nicer to them and how to run an admissions office."

Point is there is no harm in doing this if you can do it in a professional way. If you can't, then don't do it.

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Re: Any risk in telling a school you're unhappy with them?

Postby webbylu87 » Sun May 23, 2010 9:16 pm

Regionality wrote:Hi all,

So I am withdrawing from a school today and in the end I have felt they have handled their admissions process with me pretty terribly. Is there a risk in sending them a withdrawal email and giving them a polite piece of my mind in the withdrawal? I feel like I have nothing to lose with regards to this specific school, and the only risk might be if they told other schools.

Should these adcoms be told when we're unhappy?


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Re: Any risk in telling a school you're unhappy with them?

Postby yo! » Sun May 23, 2010 9:20 pm

Davis?

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Re: Any risk in telling a school you're unhappy with them?

Postby Bert » Sun May 23, 2010 9:22 pm

yo! wrote:Davis?


hahaha. I was thinking the same thing.

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Re: Any risk in telling a school you're unhappy with them?

Postby Regionality » Sun May 23, 2010 9:23 pm

yo! wrote:Davis?


No, Iowa. But Davis is ridiculous too-- I got in there as well, but I didn't feel as "wronged" by them as I have from Iowa...Davis is just stupidly slow, according to my experience...though I understand plenty of other people's complaints about Davis...that EIP thread was abhorrent.

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Re: Any risk in telling a school you're unhappy with them?

Postby webbylu87 » Sun May 23, 2010 9:23 pm

Bert wrote:
yo! wrote:Davis?


hahaha. I was thinking the same thing.


I was not aware of a Davis fiasco. What did Davis do?

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Re: Any risk in telling a school you're unhappy with them?

Postby OneSixtySix » Sun May 23, 2010 9:23 pm

GW?

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Re: Any risk in telling a school you're unhappy with them?

Postby Regionality » Sun May 23, 2010 9:24 pm

webbylu87 wrote:
Regionality wrote:Hi all,

So I am withdrawing from a school today and in the end I have felt they have handled their admissions process with me pretty terribly. Is there a risk in sending them a withdrawal email and giving them a polite piece of my mind in the withdrawal? I feel like I have nothing to lose with regards to this specific school, and the only risk might be if they told other schools.

Should these adcoms be told when we're unhappy?


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yes, you are correct my friend. How tempted are you?

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Re: Any risk in telling a school you're unhappy with them?

Postby OneSixtySix » Sun May 23, 2010 9:24 pm

edit: double post...whoops!

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Re: Any risk in telling a school you're unhappy with them?

Postby Regionality » Sun May 23, 2010 9:27 pm

webbylu87 wrote:
Bert wrote:
yo! wrote:Davis?


hahaha. I was thinking the same thing.


I was not aware of a Davis fiasco. What did Davis do?


Some people hadn't received their INITIAL decision until like a week or so ago. Supposedly they have a "wholistic" approach which causes the delay, but I think they're just understaffed and/or inefficient.
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Re: Any risk in telling a school you're unhappy with them?

Postby webbylu87 » Sun May 23, 2010 9:30 pm

Regionality wrote:
webbylu87 wrote:
Bert wrote:
yo! wrote:Davis?


hahaha. I was thinking the same thing.


I was not aware of a Davis fiasco. What did Davis do?


Some people hadn't received their INITIAL decision until like a week or so ago. Supposedly they have a "wholistic" approach which causes the delay, but I think they're just understaffed.


Yikes. Sounds like UNC. UNC warns you that they take a while to get a decision but they actually say NOT to contact them regarding your application. You'll know as soon as a decision has been made. Just a weird process which ends up rubbing a lot of people the wrong way.

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Re: Any risk in telling a school you're unhappy with them?

Postby Bert » Sun May 23, 2010 10:03 pm

webbylu87 wrote:Yikes. Sounds like UNC. UNC warns you that they take a while to get a decision but they actually say NOT to contact them regarding your application. You'll know as soon as a decision has been made. Just a weird process which ends up rubbing a lot of people the wrong way.


Dont mean to hijack, but I need to vent.

At least UNC warned you. William and Mary also takes a long time, but they put this delay on the status check website, so that at least you don't feel as wronged by the delay because you legitimately knew about it. I certainly understand that things will take some time, especially if they are reviewing the entirety of somebody's application in relation to the remainder of the applicant pool. Davis was not (in my opinion) straight forward with people about how long things would take, and they took their time even when they started getting backed up. They stopped taking phone calls and they didn't respond to emails, more or less keeping everybody in the dark at the end of the cycle. An email or a note on the status check would have been a thoughtful touch, but they didn't do anything like that. Once your application was complete, your status check changed to "Evaluation in Progress" and it stayed liked that for ever. In my case, they had my application for seven months, and only rejected me last week.

End of rant/hijack.

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Re: Any risk in telling a school you're unhappy with them?

Postby JCougar » Sun May 23, 2010 10:11 pm

Matthies wrote:Some advice. Your legal reputation starts now. if you feel you were wronged as a customer, and can write a decent, professional letter with a critique and suggestions from your experience with other schools. then do it. By snail mail addressed to the Dean of Admissions personally. Write the letter, sit on it for a few days, let a 3rd part read it, then MAIL it.

Or you could e-mail it. The person reading it could A- forward it to the dean, B- think you're going after their job and delete it, C- Send to their friends at other law schools, D- forward it to ATL where they post "Pretentious OL tells law school to be nicer to them and how to run an admissions office."

Point is there is no harm in doing this if you can do it in a professional way. If you can't, then don't do it.


+1

I think you definitely should send such a letter, but be professional about it. Don't whine, just let them know how to improve.

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Re: Any risk in telling a school you're unhappy with them?

Postby NoleinNY » Sun May 23, 2010 10:20 pm

As long as it's truthful, honest AND polite, why not?

Earlier in the cycle, GW rejected me and then sent out an invitation to apply for admission.... for this very same cycle! The date on the letter indicated it was composed after the rejection and wasn't merely lost in the mail for a month. I sent them a fairly witty email noting the error and it was taken in goodwill.

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Re: Any risk in telling a school you're unhappy with them?

Postby rockchalk86 » Sun May 23, 2010 10:38 pm

What is the point? You are withdrawing anyway, so just let it go. You have nothing to gain out of it, and potentially something to lose if you piss them off.




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