A Weird Situation: Need Advice

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A Weird Situation: Need Advice

Postby rodewan » Thu May 06, 2010 10:17 am

One thing, for the life of me, that I cannot understand is the USNWR rankings. Cardozo-Yeshiva is ranked a full ~20 places below OSU. I am on hold at dozo and was admitted to OSU earlier. At lawschoolnumbers I see the median applicant for Cardozo (http://cardozo.lawschoolnumbers.com/stats) however, is way higher than for OSU (http://osu.lawschoolnumbers.com/stats). Why is this so? If Cardozo has better students why in the world is its ranking so low? I eventually want to practice patent law in california, so i know neither school is an excellent prospect in this situation, but I want to figure out where I should go to have the best chance (assuming I get off the hold at cardozo). thanks for your help guys!

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Re: A Weird Situation: Need Advice

Postby D. H2Oman » Thu May 06, 2010 10:19 am

Somewhere in California

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Re: A Weird Situation: Need Advice

Postby GordonBombay » Thu May 06, 2010 10:24 am

What the silver surfer voltron thing above said. Neither shcool is a good idea for all that money and your goals...so says I!

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Re: A Weird Situation: Need Advice

Postby rodewan » Thu May 06, 2010 10:30 am

thanks guys, I was under the impression that for patent law where you got your degree from did not matter as much, but I guess with the current job market that still does come into play

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Re: A Weird Situation: Need Advice

Postby lostjake » Thu May 06, 2010 10:36 am

Fordham

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Re: A Weird Situation: Need Advice

Postby rodewan » Thu May 06, 2010 10:50 am

lostjake wrote:Fordham


waitlisted @fordham, will continue to write them loci's in vain hope

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Re: A Weird Situation: Need Advice

Postby Case2L » Thu May 06, 2010 3:49 pm

I don't have the rankings in front of me, but I believe OSU beats out Cardozo on peer assessment and lawyer/judge assessment, which accounts for a large part of the rankings. For patent law, where you went to undergrad and what you studied are very important. For example, if you have a BSE from Stanford or Carnegie-Mellon, it probably doesn't matter as much where you attended law school. If you have a BA from a liberal arts college, then your law school becomes more important.

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Re: A Weird Situation: Need Advice

Postby im_blue » Thu May 06, 2010 4:10 pm

rodewan wrote:If Cardozo has better students why in the world is its ranking so low?

Most of the NY law schools have slightly higher numbers than their placement quality (Fordham, Cardozo, Brooklyn, etc). I believe Cardozo is in the top 35 if you sort by median LSAT and then median GPA. A lot of New Yorkers simply refuse to go elsewhere.

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Re: A Weird Situation: Need Advice

Postby ughOSU » Thu May 06, 2010 4:25 pm

If you have a BSEE, avoid the legal market and get a job as an engineer.

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Re: A Weird Situation: Need Advice

Postby FuManChusco » Thu May 06, 2010 5:12 pm

Hastings, Davis or Irvine is the answer to this conundrum. You're crazy if you go to Cardozo or OSU if you want CA. If you got WLed at Fordham, you must have decent enough numbers to try for one of the UCs.

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Re: A Weird Situation: Need Advice

Postby flyingpanda » Thu May 06, 2010 5:22 pm

FuManChusco wrote:Hastings, Davis or Irvine is the answer to this conundrum. You're crazy if you go to Cardozo or OSU if you want CA. If you got WLed at Fordham, you must have decent enough numbers to try for one of the UCs.


This... Pepperdine, USD, Loyola, Santa Clara would also be better for California than OSU and 'dozo

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Re: A Weird Situation: Need Advice

Postby Dr. Strangelove » Thu May 06, 2010 5:53 pm

Davis/Hastings/Irvine.. as people have said before.
Ohio State has a much higher peer rating than Cardozo which explains a lot.

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Re: A Weird Situation: Need Advice

Postby rodewan » Fri May 07, 2010 2:29 am

yeah i originally preferred davis and hastings as well. unfortunately i have already been rejected from both of them :cry: . My background is a BS in Chemical Engineering from jhu. at this point, should i just go with osu then or retake the lsat for a third time in june/oct and apply for next year?

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Re: A Weird Situation: Need Advice

Postby flyingpanda » Fri May 07, 2010 3:01 am

rodewan wrote:yeah i originally preferred davis and hastings as well. unfortunately i have already been rejected from both of them :cry: . My background is a BS in Chemical Engineering from jhu. at this point, should i just go with osu then or retake the lsat for a third time in june/oct and apply for next year?


Retake the LSAT if you want CA, or go to a lower ranked CA school with a scholly.

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Re: A Weird Situation: Need Advice

Postby rodewan » Fri May 07, 2010 10:20 am

bump...would like to see what others think, if i ultimately want cali should I retake and reapply or go with osu for patent law since i have an undergrad in chem and biomolec eng from jhu?

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Re: A Weird Situation: Need Advice

Postby flyingpanda » Fri May 07, 2010 5:15 pm

rodewan wrote:bump...would like to see what others think, if i ultimately want cali should I retake and reapply or go with osu for patent law since i have an undergrad in chem and biomolec eng from jhu?


Waterman and I have over 2k posts, our word is law. If you want CA, go to a CA school.

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Re: A Weird Situation: Need Advice

Postby bk1 » Fri May 07, 2010 5:20 pm

If you want CA then the obvious choice is to retake and reapply. Even the lesser schools in CA (Santa Clara, Loyola, etc) are going to be a better shot than OSU or Cardozo, IMO.

Spend now till October studying for the LSAT. Take the LSAT in October. Apply immediately after you get your score so your app is in early. Depending on your stats and what you get on the LSAT I would say you should probably be aiming for UCI, UCD, UCH, with other CA schools as backups.




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