Duke v Michigan, same scholarship offer, would love opinions

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holydonkey
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Re: Duke v Michigan, same scholarship offer, would love opinions

Postby holydonkey » Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:11 pm

Jericwithers wrote:
holydonkey wrote:Of course, on the other hand...

Michigan is ranked #9 in US news and Duke is #11.
Leiter faculty quality ranks Michigan at #6 and Duke at #9.
Leiter new faculty hires ranks Michigan #9 and Duke #11.
Leiter student quality ranks Michigan #10 and Duke #12.
Princeton Review best job prospects ranks Michigan #3 and Duke outside the top 10.

but they're basically equal in everything else. :wink:
Does Michigan have a significantly better chance of getting you into biglaw or clerkships though? When I look at the statistics, which is the logic behind those rankings, Michigan ranks only 2-3% better than Duke (1% for biglaw and something close to that for clerkships). The next step would be looking at where all those people from Michigan and going to work and where the people from Duke are going to work and see which gives you a better chance of working where you would like to.
Yeah, that was pretty much just a flame. Duke and Michigan really are equal, but I couldn't give the OP the impression I didn't prefer the school I chose. :mrgreen:

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Re: Duke v Michigan, same scholarship offer, would love opinions

Postby Jericwithers » Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:13 pm

holydonkey wrote:
Jericwithers wrote:
holydonkey wrote:Of course, on the other hand...

Michigan is ranked #9 in US news and Duke is #11.
Leiter faculty quality ranks Michigan at #6 and Duke at #9.
Leiter new faculty hires ranks Michigan #9 and Duke #11.
Leiter student quality ranks Michigan #10 and Duke #12.
Princeton Review best job prospects ranks Michigan #3 and Duke outside the top 10.

but they're basically equal in everything else. :wink:
Does Michigan have a significantly better chance of getting you into biglaw or clerkships though? When I look at the statistics, which is the logic behind those rankings, Michigan ranks only 2-3% better than Duke (1% for biglaw and something close to that for clerkships). The next step would be looking at where all those people from Michigan and going to work and where the people from Duke are going to work and see which gives you a better chance of working where you would like to.
Yeah, that was pretty much just a flame. Duke and Michigan really are equal, but I couldn't give the OP the impression I didn't prefer the school I chose. :mrgreen:


Lol yes, when people boil their decision down to weather it is really hard to spin it in favor of Michigan :mrgreen:

That is unless you consider the free igloo housing 5 months out of the year!

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Re: Duke v Michigan, same scholarship offer, would love opinions

Postby fortissimo » Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:15 pm

Jericwithers wrote:
holydonkey wrote:Of course, on the other hand...

Michigan is ranked #9 in US news and Duke is #11.
Leiter faculty quality ranks Michigan at #6 and Duke at #9.
Leiter new faculty hires ranks Michigan #9 and Duke #11.
Leiter student quality ranks Michigan #10 and Duke #12.
Princeton Review best job prospects ranks Michigan #3 and Duke outside the top 10.

but they're basically equal in everything else. :wink:


Does Michigan have a significantly better chance of getting you into biglaw or clerkships though? When I look at the statistics, which is the logic behind those rankings, Michigan ranks only 2-3% better than Duke (1% for biglaw and something close to that for clerkships). The next step would be looking at where all those people from Michigan and going to work and where the people from Duke are going to work and see which gives you a better chance of working where you would like to.


I think for clerkships, there is a significant difference. Michigan typically places 14% into federal clerkships, and this year they bumped it up to over 20% in federal clerkships. (Michigan historically places 4th when looking at the percentage placed into federal clerkships, after HYS, and close to Virginia (a close 5th) for federal clerkships.)

But, the odds of landing a clerkship are still slim, so I'm not sure how important that consideration should be.

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Re: Duke v Michigan, same scholarship offer, would love opinions

Postby Jericwithers » Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:20 pm

fortissimo wrote:
Jericwithers wrote:
holydonkey wrote:Of course, on the other hand...

Michigan is ranked #9 in US news and Duke is #11.
Leiter faculty quality ranks Michigan at #6 and Duke at #9.
Leiter new faculty hires ranks Michigan #9 and Duke #11.
Leiter student quality ranks Michigan #10 and Duke #12.
Princeton Review best job prospects ranks Michigan #3 and Duke outside the top 10.

but they're basically equal in everything else. :wink:


Does Michigan have a significantly better chance of getting you into biglaw or clerkships though? When I look at the statistics, which is the logic behind those rankings, Michigan ranks only 2-3% better than Duke (1% for biglaw and something close to that for clerkships). The next step would be looking at where all those people from Michigan and going to work and where the people from Duke are going to work and see which gives you a better chance of working where you would like to.


I think for clerkships, there is a significant difference. Michigan typically places 14% into federal clerkships, and this year they bumped it up to over 20%.

But, the odds of landing a clerkship are still slim, so I'm not sure how important that consideration should be.


Very important for someone wanting a clerkship (like me-not sure about OP). I finally found the numbers and it is 13.9% to 11.7% for clerkships between Michigan and Duke and 51% 49.8% for NLJ250 hires. Still a better school for the same price, but areas of employment differ as do perceived QOL (Ann Arbor is rated the #1 best city to live in America btw--no telling what rank it would be if it wasn't so close to Detroit!).




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