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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby crackberry » Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:35 pm

For a friend who wants NYC BigLaw:

Vandy - $10K/year
Fordham - not sure about $$ (not huge $$ though; may even be equal or less than Vandy)
UCLA - sticker

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby crackberry » Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:36 pm

For another friend who wants Bay Area BigLaw and really wants to live in NYC for a few years/doesn't like Chicago's vibe:

NYU - sticker
Chicago - sticker
Michigan - sticker

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby trc332 » Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:36 pm

Penn 150k
Chicago 75K
NYU 75K

numbers are scholarships... Interested in NYC Big Law. Giving up 90+ paying job to go, so want the quickest return on investment.

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby 98234872348 » Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:41 pm

vendetta2 wrote:
mistergoft wrote:Colorado
George Mason
Wake Forest


1. Which school has better career prospects?
None of these schools have particularly great job prospects; most will probably get you a decent job making ~50-60k per year.
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really? the grads i've talked to from CU didn't graduate in the top 25percent but still got jobs offering 65k, 75k, and 80k first year out. granted, they all went into private firms. is the average really as low as 50k if you go into private practice?

The trouble is, really, getting a job in the first place. While these jobs exist, they are scarce and are extremely difficult to get in this economy without some stellar networking.

I don't know what the average is, but I certainly wouldn't anticipate going into any of those schools that I was pretty certain that I was going to by making 75k a year on graduation.

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby NayBoer » Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:43 pm

trc332 wrote:Penn 150k
Chicago 75K
NYU 75K

numbers are scholarships... Interested in NYC Big Law. Giving up 90+ paying job to go, so want the quickest return on investment.
Quickest roi is P. CN safer for actually getting a job. Of those 3 I'd do NYU for NYC.

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby 98234872348 » Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:43 pm

Nightrunner wrote:
trc332 wrote:Penn 150k
Chicago 75K
NYU 75K

numbers are scholarships... Interested in NYC Big Law. Giving up 90+ paying job to go, so want the quickest return on investment.

If definitely NYC, take NYU.

Excellent work experience will definitely weigh in your favor, if you do moderately well at NYU you'll likely get bites from all over the NYC V100.

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby crackberry » Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:44 pm

crackberry wrote:For another friend who wants Bay Area BigLaw and really wants to live in NYC for a few years/doesn't like Chicago's vibe:

NYU - sticker
Chicago - sticker
Michigan - sticker

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby crackberry » Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:46 pm

Nightrunner wrote:Now you're just testing our parameters. Still, in case, NYU.

Haha, no, I'm not. Thanks.

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby NayBoer » Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:51 pm

Nightrunner wrote:
NayBoer wrote:Quickest roi is P. CN safer for actually getting a job. Of those 3 I'd do NYU for NYC.

agreed on all counts.

FTR: if you - or someone with similar a situation - didn't care where you'd work, I'd take Chicago.
Same here. I originally wrote that I'd take Chicago.

I edited when I realized he wanted NYC. I don't want NYC and am looking at all markets that aren't NYC or the South.

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby trc332 » Fri Apr 16, 2010 3:02 pm

Thanks for the info.

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby 98234872348 » Fri Apr 16, 2010 3:09 pm

Nightrunner wrote:
crackberry wrote:
crackberry wrote:For another friend who wants Bay Area BigLaw and really wants to live in NYC for a few years/doesn't like Chicago's vibe:

NYU - sticker
Chicago - sticker
Michigan - sticker

Now you're just testing our parameters. Still, in case, NYU.

I can't imagine why he wouldn't pick NYU in this situation.

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby crackberry » Fri Apr 16, 2010 3:11 pm

mistergoft wrote:
Nightrunner wrote:
crackberry wrote:
crackberry wrote:For another friend who wants Bay Area BigLaw and really wants to live in NYC for a few years/doesn't like Chicago's vibe:

NYU - sticker
Chicago - sticker
Michigan - sticker

Now you're just testing our parameters. Still, in case, NYU.

I can't imagine why he wouldn't pick NYU in this situation.

Because by all accounts Chicago has more national reach and even Michigan might place better in Calif. than NYU. I dunno.

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby NayBoer » Fri Apr 16, 2010 3:16 pm

I ran the NALP employer search for firms in CA doing OCI at NYU. 101 results.

And if you do the NALP school profile, NYU sends 70% to Middle Atlantic (NYC) but still 10% to Pacific (LA/SF), as the second most common region, ahead of South Atlantic (DC) at 8.4%.

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby kittenmittons » Fri Apr 16, 2010 3:17 pm

I love this

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby 09042014 » Fri Apr 16, 2010 3:17 pm

kittenmittons wrote:I love this


I thought you died bro. Will you join our cause?

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby bigdipper » Fri Apr 16, 2010 3:19 pm

fordham - $45K
bu - $60K
cornell - sticker
*$ = total scholarship

goals:
- practice in or near any of the following cities: ny, boston, dc, philadelphia, chicago
- possible biglaw (not a necessity, keeping options open)
- possibly interested in health law (from private industry or gov't perspective)

considerations:
- did undergrad at cornell
- currently working in nyc

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby kittenmittons » Fri Apr 16, 2010 3:19 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
kittenmittons wrote:I love this

I thought you died bro. Will you join our cause?

Yes

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby 98234872348 » Fri Apr 16, 2010 3:27 pm

Nightrunner wrote:
bigdipper wrote:fordham - $45K
bu - $60K
cornell - sticker
*$ = total scholarship

goals:
- practice in or near any of the following cities: ny, boston, dc, philadelphia, chicago
- possible biglaw (not a necessity, keeping options open)
- possibly interested in health law (from private industry or gov't perspective)

considerations:
- did undergrad at cornell
- currently working in nyc


BU

I don't think the BU scholarship is large enough to justify forgoing Cornell, bro.

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby D. H2Oman » Fri Apr 16, 2010 3:29 pm

bigdipper wrote:fordham - $45K
bu - $60K
cornell - sticker
*$ = total scholarship

goals:
- practice in or near any of the following cities: ny, boston, dc, philadelphia, chicago
- possible biglaw (not a necessity, keeping options open)
- possibly interested in health law (from private industry or gov't perspective)

considerations:
- did undergrad at cornell
- currently working in nyc



The BU campus sucks, I hate it. 3 More years at Cornell.

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby 98234872348 » Fri Apr 16, 2010 3:29 pm

crackberry wrote:
mistergoft wrote:I can't imagine why he wouldn't pick NYU in this situation.

Because by all accounts Chicago has more national reach and even Michigan might place better in Calif. than NYU. I dunno.

I am way too lazy to substantiate my unfounded recommendations based off of sheer speculation and assumption on any sort of logic or statistical evidence, so, take it for what it's worth.

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby 98234872348 » Fri Apr 16, 2010 3:35 pm

Nightrunner wrote:
mistergoft wrote:
Nightrunner wrote:
bigdipper wrote:fordham - $45K
bu - $60K
cornell - sticker
*$ = total scholarship

goals:
- practice in or near any of the following cities: ny, boston, dc, philadelphia, chicago
- possible biglaw (not a necessity, keeping options open)
- possibly interested in health law (from private industry or gov't perspective)

considerations:
- did undergrad at cornell
- currently working in nyc


BU

I don't think the BU scholarship is large enough to justify forgoing Cornell, bro.


I would agree, but if there is interest in Health Law and interest in practicing in Boston, BU with a scholarship is a pretty good deal. This takes into account the ridiculous sum of debt that is Cornell at sticker, and the fact that the asker is not 100% set on BigLaw.

My new default position someone calls into question taking out more debt in order to attend a school with better job prospects is to link them to this: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=114181

Also, cornell for 200k > BU for 140k, imho and forever.

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby ihurtmyselftoday » Fri Apr 16, 2010 3:42 pm

GWU- $105K
Georgetown- $45K
UPenn- WL (probably sticker price if accepted)

$=total scholarship

Factors:
-Primary interest in Human Rights Law, Criminal Law, Trial Advocacy, Litigation
-Prefer DOJ employment
-Would prefer to live in Philadelphia for school
-Would like to maintain possibility for BigLaw
-Have professional contacts in DC, including in BigLaw
-No interest in coporate/finance law

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby 09042014 » Fri Apr 16, 2010 3:43 pm

ihurtmyselftoday wrote:GWU- $105K
Georgetown- $45K
UPenn- WL (probably sticker price if accepted)

$=total scholarship

Factors:
-Primary interest in Human Rights Law, Criminal Law, Trial Advocacy, Litigation
-Prefer DOJ employment
-Would prefer to live in Philadelphia for school
-Would like to maintain possibility for BigLaw
-Have professional contacts in DC, including in BigLaw
-No interest in coporate/finance law


Gtown, unless penn lets you off.

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby D. H2Oman » Fri Apr 16, 2010 3:46 pm

ihurtmyselftoday wrote:GWU- $105K
Georgetown- $45K
UPenn- WL (probably sticker price if accepted)

$=total scholarship

Factors:
-Primary interest in Human Rights Law, Criminal Law, Trial Advocacy, Litigation
-Prefer DOJ employment
-Would prefer to live in Philadelphia for school
-Would like to maintain possibility for BigLaw
-Have professional contacts in DC, including in BigLaw
-No interest in coporate/finance law


Georgetown, sure it's not T13, but it's still worth more that 60K @ GW.

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby ihurtmyselftoday » Fri Apr 16, 2010 3:46 pm

Desert Fox wrote: Gtown, unless penn lets you off.


Suprised to see that from you actually.

WTF is BP anyway?




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