BP decides where you go to law school

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby vendetta2 » Fri Apr 16, 2010 1:03 pm

University of Colorado
Wake Forest
George Mason

all three are sticker. i want to get the best grades possible. i want money, but don't care about prestige (if that was the case i'd be SOL with these three options)

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby IAFG » Fri Apr 16, 2010 1:05 pm

vendetta2 wrote:University of Colorado
Wake Forest
George Mason

all three are sticker. i want to get the best grades possible. i want money, but don't care about prestige (if that was the case i'd be SOL with these three options)

GMU or U of C could both possibly lead to employment but since DC is such a saturated market i would go to Colorado and hope you manage to be a big fish in a small pond.

otoh if money is #1 taking on debt for any of these schools is probably counter-productive.

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby anthonyc350 » Fri Apr 16, 2010 1:08 pm

Nightrunner wrote:
anthonyc350 wrote:villanova mainline suburbs suck so id rather not go there, so i guess psu vs. pitt, toss a coin?


When you visited, did you like one more than the other?


love penn state's campus, love the city of pittsburgh =/

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby JTX » Fri Apr 16, 2010 1:17 pm

Nightrunner wrote:
Brownadam26 wrote:where do I go to law school with a 160/2.8....reaches/safeties and certainties please.
URM-upward grade trend- good LoRs- what do I do?

http://www.lawschoolpredictor.com


are you really URM? there is often some confusion about this.

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby vendetta2 » Fri Apr 16, 2010 1:24 pm

Colorado
George Mason
Wake Forest

All three sticker. Money is only a minor issue for paying for law school. I have lived in all of these places and loved them all, so I wouldn't mind settling down in north carolina, dc / va area, or colorado (denver or boulder). As far as career goals, I am interested in a few different diverse areas of law, such as environmental, corporate, family, health. I realize that half of law students who go into law school change what they want to practice anyway. Either way, I want to go to the best school possible with the highest employment prospects / highest salary / low cost of living. I like the southern feel of Wake Forest / NC in general, but I also like the West-coast mentality of Colorado/ Boulder. Skiing is a plus, too.

I guess i want my decision to be based on:
1. Which school has better career prospects?
2. Which school has more mobility?
3. Which school is more fun?
4. Which school is harder to get good grades / be at the top of the class?

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby csgrant5 » Fri Apr 16, 2010 1:31 pm

Tulane - $45K
Pepperdine - $60K
ASU - $25K + In-State

($s are scholarships over 3 years)

Im not sure what field I want to work in but Tulane's International and Sports Law programs interest me. I could easily see myself living in any of these three places in the future.

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby NU_Jet55 » Fri Apr 16, 2010 1:36 pm

Can someone explain/post a link that explains what bp is?

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby Jericwithers » Fri Apr 16, 2010 1:36 pm

Texas in-state $60k
UCLA OOS $90k
Duke $67.5k
:?:

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby 98234872348 » Fri Apr 16, 2010 1:36 pm

Colorado
George Mason
Wake Forest


1. Which school has better career prospects?
None of these schools have particularly great job prospects; most will probably get you a decent job making ~50-60k per year.

2. Which school has more mobility?
Pick the school that is in a region you want to live; none of these schools promise great mobility whatsoever. If you want mobility I suggest you retake the lsat and reapply.

3. Which school is more fun?
Lolwtf? Can't evaluate without having attended, you might want to talk with some current students, there might be a "taking Qs" thread with some 1Ls around here somewhere

4. Which school is harder to get good grades / be at the top of the class?
Impossible to discern, this is reliant on far too many variables and likely varies from class to class due to the nature of law school grading (you're ranked against your peers on a mandatory curve). Please don't go to law school believing that you can finish at the top of your class as this is delusional and law school grading it highly arbitrary. All of these schools likely offer equal difficulty in terms of one's ability to perform exceptionally well.

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby 98234872348 » Fri Apr 16, 2010 1:39 pm

csgrant5 wrote:Tulane - $45K
Pepperdine - $60K
ASU - $25K + In-State

($s are scholarships over 3 years)

Im not sure what field I want to work in but Tulane's International and Sports Law programs interest me. I could easily see myself living in any of these three places in the future.

Please save yourself some money and go to ASU. Tulane having an international and/or sports law program that it uses to attract students with is ridiculous.

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby vendetta2 » Fri Apr 16, 2010 1:46 pm

mistergoft wrote:Colorado
George Mason
Wake Forest


1. Which school has better career prospects?
None of these schools have particularly great job prospects; most will probably get you a decent job making ~50-60k per year.
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really? the grads i've talked to from CU didn't graduate in the top 25percent but still got jobs offering 65k, 75k, and 80k first year out. granted, they all went into private firms. is the average really as low as 50k if you go into private practice?

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby Jericwithers » Fri Apr 16, 2010 1:47 pm

Nightrunner wrote:
Jericwithers wrote:Texas in-state $60k
UCLA OOS $90k
Duke $67.5k
:?:


a. those scholarships?
b. you have a Duke tar. You know that, right?
c. goals?


Yes, Yes, and big monies.

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby csgrant5 » Fri Apr 16, 2010 1:48 pm

mistergoft wrote:
csgrant5 wrote:Tulane - $45K
Pepperdine - $60K
ASU - $25K + In-State

($s are scholarships over 3 years)

Im not sure what field I want to work in but Tulane's International and Sports Law programs interest me. I could easily see myself living in any of these three places in the future.

Please save yourself some money and go to ASU. Tulane having an international and/or sports law program that it uses to attract students with is ridiculous.


So you feel like all other aspects are equal? Tulane doesnt carry more prestige or portability with its degree than does ASU?

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby Jericwithers » Fri Apr 16, 2010 1:52 pm

Nightrunner wrote:
Jericwithers wrote:
Nightrunner wrote:
Jericwithers wrote:Texas in-state $60k
UCLA OOS $90k
Duke $67.5k
:?:


a. those scholarships?
b. you have a Duke tar. You know that, right?
c. goals?


Yes, Yes, and big monies.


Presuming you want mobility (since you don't indicate a location, and your schools are all over the board), I'd pick Duke. Honestly, you can't really go wrong here...Duke is the bigger bet, since you're taking on the most debt, but it also provides the greatest probability of "big monies."


Thanks. Does it complicate things if I want big law in Texas as my first shot? I am just worried that a Texas degree is only going to help me get biglaw in Texas, but Duke gives me just as good of a chance in Texas but also opens up many more markets. Correct?

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby NU_Jet55 » Fri Apr 16, 2010 1:53 pm

Can someone explain/post a link that explains what bp is?

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby Jericwithers » Fri Apr 16, 2010 1:54 pm

NU_Jet55 wrote:Can someone explain/post a link that explains what bp is?


It is a sunken ship of far away lore. I believe the pirates all ate each other.

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby Jericwithers » Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:05 pm

Nightrunner wrote:
Jericwithers wrote:
Nightrunner wrote:
Thanks. Does it complicate things if I want big law in Texas as my first shot? I am just worried that a Texas degree is only going to help me get biglaw in Texas, but Duke gives me just as good of a chance in Texas but also opens up many more markets. Correct?


If you want Texas, and you can get UT cheap as all hell...I would probably do it. Then again, I am more debt-averse than others...but Texas is great for Texas.


I kind of feel that if I couldn't get Texas biglaw out of Duke then I probably couldn't out of UT either (I went to UT for undergrad so I am rooted here in a sense). Yet at Duke I could have "secondary" markets like NYC, DC, or Cali.

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby alien d » Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:06 pm

How about:

Chicago at sticker
Michigan w/$67k

Would like to do biglaw, not too picky about where.

Thanks in advance!

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby NayBoer » Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:13 pm

alien d wrote:How about:

Chicago at sticker
Michigan w/$67k

Would like to do biglaw, not too picky about where.

Thanks in advance!
Chicago.

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby mdgold » Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:14 pm

Brooklyn- 7k/year
Cardozo- 7.6k/year
GW- sticker
Fordham WL (so sticker if i get in)

want NYC for sure, hopefully big law but am realistic ITE.

please help!

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby Jericwithers » Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:17 pm

Nightrunner wrote:
Jericwithers wrote:
I kind of feel that if I couldn't get Texas biglaw out of Duke then I probably couldn't out of UT either (I went to UT for undergrad so I am rooted here in a sense). Yet at Duke I could have "secondary" markets like NYC, DC, or Cali.


Disclosure: I haven't researched this, since I don't want to live in Texas.

Still, my gut feeling is that Texas will outperform much of the lower T13 in Texas.

It is the rest of the US where I would think Duke could open more doors.


Thanks for your input. My decision had already been made, I just wanted to see what BP thought :lol:

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby KimmyGibbler » Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:23 pm

$ = total cost of school and COL for 3 years

For Philly market

1) Fordham; $180k
2) BU; $180k
3) Temple; $45k

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby Joan Hollaway » Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:24 pm

Nightrunner wrote:
NayBoer wrote:
alien d wrote:How about:

Chicago at sticker
Michigan w/$67k

Would like to do biglaw, not too picky about where.

Thanks in advance!
Chicago.

Agreed. If you are 100% set on BigLaw, go Chicago. Otherwise, consider that $67K at an elite school to be an extremely awesome safety net.


Good job steering the curve ruiners away from mich you guys :wink:
OP id suggest mich only cause I don't think 67k is worth the slight advantage you'd get from chicago but that's jmo

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby 09042014 » Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:26 pm

KimmyGibbler wrote:$ = total cost of school and COL for 3 years

For Philly market

1) Fordham; $180k
2) BU; $180k
3) Temple; $45k


Temple as long as you want Philly.

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby NayBoer » Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:30 pm

Nightrunner wrote:
mdgold wrote:Brooklyn- 7k/year
Cardozo- 7.6k/year
GW- sticker
Fordham WL (so sticker if i get in)

want NYC for sure, hopefully big law but am realistic ITE.

please help!


NYC for sure = Cardozo, or Fordham if you get in.

Open to eastern seaboard = GW, but you say NYC, so go NYC.
I'd urge GW, just because it tends to have better biglaw placement, but that comes with less access to NYC. Go to Fordham if you get in.




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