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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby IAFG » Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:27 pm

APimpNamedSlickback wrote:
IAFG wrote:
Illinifan05 wrote:Chicago- Sticker
NU- Sticker
Illinois- In state

Plan to work in Chicago post-graduation, either in public interest OR big law, not quite sure yet. Also come from business background, so not averse to going into industry in the future either. Help!!?!

NU JD/MBA


booth >> kellogg, at least for finance.

weak/difficult joint degree. programs do not complement each other.

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby D. H2Oman » Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:28 pm

nymets123 wrote:Fordham PT at sticker (210kish)

Rutgers Newark instate plus 10 grand scholly a year (comes out to 90kish total)

??????

not interested in midlaw. Big law for a few years and then govt work is what i want ideally.



I recommend two spoonfuls of reality.

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby 98234872348 » Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:28 pm

nymets123 wrote:Fordham PT at sticker (210kish)

Rutgers Newark instate plus 10 grand scholly a year (comes out to 90kish total)

??????

not interested in midlaw. Big law for a few years and then govt work is what i want ideally.

You won't get midlaw regardless.

Fordham can get you Biglaw, but remember that it's only really a 30% chance (at best). I'd take RN over Fordham in this economy, I think.

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby IAFG » Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:29 pm

nymets123 wrote:Fordham PT at sticker (210kish)

Rutgers Newark instate plus 10 grand scholly a year (comes out to 90kish total)

??????

not interested in midlaw. Big law for a few years and then govt work is what i want ideally.

then become a paralegal

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby APimpNamedSlickback » Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:29 pm

IAFG wrote:
APimpNamedSlickback wrote:
IAFG wrote:
Illinifan05 wrote:Chicago- Sticker
NU- Sticker
Illinois- In state

Plan to work in Chicago post-graduation, either in public interest OR big law, not quite sure yet. Also come from business background, so not averse to going into industry in the future either. Help!!?!

NU JD/MBA


booth >> kellogg, at least for finance.

weak/difficult joint degree. programs do not complement each other.


this is a really good point. i'd probably off myself after two years trying to do a jd/mba at chicago

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby Core » Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:29 pm

LieutKaffee wrote:
Core wrote:Michigan - 45k
Penn - 78k
Berkeley - 48k

Want to do PI in NYC. Interested in doing a biglaw stint for a year or two. Also willing and interested in working in D.C.


With those numbers and that goal, I'm inclined to say "what happened to CLS and NYU?"

MEAN.
I'm still waiting to hear from HLS, SLS, and CLS.

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby Joan Hollaway » Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:29 pm

D. H2Oman wrote:
nymets123 wrote:Fordham PT at sticker (210kish)

Rutgers Newark instate plus 10 grand scholly a year (comes out to 90kish total)

??????

not interested in midlaw. Big law for a few years and then govt work is what i want ideally.



I recommend two spoonfuls of reality.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby D. H2Oman » Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:30 pm

84Sunbird2000 wrote:W&M - 24k (of 32)
BU - 15k (of 39)
Emory - 24k (of 42)
W&L - 34k (of 38)
IUB -Full Ride

I'd prefer DC and would prefer not to work in NYC, though I have no strong ties anywhere. I liked W&M the most of all. I'm leaning PI/Gov't, but really....I don't know what I'll end up doing for sure.

Is picking W&M over all these slightly goofy?



William and Mary seems like a good choice.

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby Nom Sawyer » Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:30 pm

APimpNamedSlickback wrote:
IAFG wrote:weak/difficult joint degree. programs do not complement each other.


this is a really good point. i'd probably off myself after two years trying to do [strike]a jd/mba at[/strike] anything at chicago


FTFM... but Chicago is still a better choice then NU

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby 09042014 » Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:30 pm

Joan Hollaway wrote:
Illinifan05 wrote:Chicago- Sticker
NU- Sticker
Illinois- In state

Plan to work in Chicago post-graduation, either in public interest OR big law, not quite sure yet. Also come from business background, so not averse to going into industry in the future either. Help!!?!


100% chicago

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby de5igual » Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:30 pm

mistergoft wrote:
nymets123 wrote:Fordham PT at sticker (210kish)

Rutgers Newark instate plus 10 grand scholly a year (comes out to 90kish total)

??????

not interested in midlaw. Big law for a few years and then govt work is what i want ideally.

You won't get midlaw regardless.

Fordham can get you Biglaw, but remember that it's only really a 30% chance (at best). I'd take RN over Fordham in this economy, I think.


honestly, with the income based repayment plan, does it really matter? fordham gives you a bigger shot at biglaw, but if you end up with shitlaw at either, your loan repayments are capped every month and discharged after x number of years (10 if public interest)

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby hellokitty » Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:31 pm

I want to live and work in Northern California, probably end up doing immigration law or maybe something to do with international human rights? Not entirely sure. So here are my options:

Santa Clara- 14,000k per year

Hastings- ride out the WL
Arizona- ride out the WL
San Diego- ride out the WL
Davis- no decision yet but probably WL, judging by similar applicants on LSN

or take a year off and try again early next cycle for Stanford or UCB?

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby Lieut Kaffee » Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:31 pm

Core wrote:
LieutKaffee wrote:
Core wrote:Michigan - 45k
Penn - 78k
Berkeley - 48k

Want to do PI in NYC. Interested in doing a biglaw stint for a year or two. Also willing and interested in working in D.C.


With those numbers and that goal, I'm inclined to say "what happened to CLS and NYU?"

MEAN.
I'm still waiting to hear from HLS, SLS, and CLS.


Ah, I agree with the previous poster. Doesn't seem you can go wrong with the highest-ranked school on the biggest scholarship.

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby IAFG » Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:31 pm

Core wrote:
LieutKaffee wrote:
Core wrote:Michigan - 45k
Penn - 78k
Berkeley - 48k

Want to do PI in NYC. Interested in doing a biglaw stint for a year or two. Also willing and interested in working in D.C.


With those numbers and that goal, I'm inclined to say "what happened to CLS and NYU?"

MEAN.
I'm still waiting to hear from HLS, SLS, and CLS.

penn for sure, not even a question if you want to start in NYC biglaw, which is incidentally a great place to lateral out of into PI.

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby Joan Hollaway » Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:31 pm

Core wrote:
LieutKaffee wrote:
Core wrote:Michigan - 45k
Penn - 78k
Berkeley - 48k

Want to do PI in NYC. Interested in doing a biglaw stint for a year or two. Also willing and interested in working in D.C.


With those numbers and that goal, I'm inclined to say "what happened to CLS and NYU?"

[strike]MEAN.
I'm still waiting to hear from HLS, SLS, and CLS.[/strike] With those numbers what happened with your NYU ED ltk?


ftfy

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby D. H2Oman » Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:32 pm

hellokitty wrote:I want to live and work in Northern California, probably end up doing immigration law or maybe something to do with international human rights? Not entirely sure. So here are my options:

Santa Clara- 14,000k per year

Hastings- ride out the WL
Arizona- ride out the WL
San Diego- ride out the WL
Davis- no decision yet but probably WL, judging by similar applicants on LSN

or take a year off and try again early next cycle for Stanford or UCB?


Yes, reretake and reapply

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Postby 09042014 » Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:32 pm

Core wrote:Michigan - 45k
Penn - 78k
Berkeley - 48k

Want to do PI in NYC. Interested in doing a biglaw stint for a year or two. Also willing and interested in working in D.C.


Penn. Best NYC placement of the three, and best price.

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby Lieut Kaffee » Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:32 pm

Joan Hollaway wrote:
Core wrote:
LieutKaffee wrote:
Core wrote:Michigan - 45k
Penn - 78k
Berkeley - 48k

Want to do PI in NYC. Interested in doing a biglaw stint for a year or two. Also willing and interested in working in D.C.


With those numbers and that goal, I'm inclined to say "what happened to CLS and NYU?"

[strike]MEAN.
I'm still waiting to hear from HLS, SLS, and CLS.[/strike] With those numbers what happened with your NYU ED ltk?


ftfy


Oh, you went there...

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby Nom Sawyer » Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:33 pm

D. H2Oman wrote:
hellokitty wrote:I want to live and work in Northern California, probably end up doing immigration law or maybe something to do with international human rights? Not entirely sure. So here are my options:

Santa Clara- 14,000k per year

Hastings- ride out the WL
Arizona- ride out the WL
San Diego- ride out the WL
Davis- no decision yet but probably WL, judging by similar applicants on LSN

or take a year off and try again early next cycle for Stanford or UCB?


Yes, reretake and reapply


Retake HelloKitty... take all year if you have to but get that LSAT up and you're golden for T6

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby Joan Hollaway » Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:35 pm

LieutKaffee wrote:
Joan Hollaway wrote:
Core wrote:
LieutKaffee wrote:
With those numbers and that goal, I'm inclined to say "what happened to CLS and NYU?"

[strike]MEAN.
I'm still waiting to hear from HLS, SLS, and CLS.[/strike] With those numbers what happened with your NYU ED ltk?


ftfy


Oh, you went there...


love you<3 :twisted:

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby Core » Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:37 pm

Joan Hollaway wrote:
Core wrote:
LieutKaffee wrote:
Core wrote:Michigan - 45k
Penn - 78k
Berkeley - 48k

Want to do PI in NYC. Interested in doing a biglaw stint for a year or two. Also willing and interested in working in D.C.


With those numbers and that goal, I'm inclined to say "what happened to CLS and NYU?"

[strike]MEAN.
I'm still waiting to hear from HLS, SLS, and CLS.[/strike] With those numbers what happened with your NYU ED ltk?


ftfy

I don't want to talk about it...

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby existenz » Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:38 pm

LieutKaffee wrote:
macunaima wrote:Well, that just makes this all that much harder. If $210k is a more realistic number we're talking a $100k difference. Are the increased job opportunities really worth that much? Supposing I go to UT and get a good job in Texas, how hard will it be to move out of state (to the Northeast or CA) after a few years?


If you work biglaw (guaranteed from CLS if you want it) you can comfortably pay off that debt within 10 years. They also have one of the better LRAPs.

Going from UT --> Texas biglaw --> move elsewhere seems harder than all the doors CLS will open.

I have to disagree with this bolded statement. Once you get your first biglaw job out of law school, your performance at that job matters a hell of a lot more than where you got your degree, particularly when your degree is from a very good school like UT.

Where the degree makes the biggest difference is your ability to get that first biglaw job (or a prestigious clerkship or academia). Personally I'd pick Columbia unless you like the more laid-back environment in Austin, and if the (substantial) difference in debt is an issue.

You should probably deposit at UT today and continue to think it over.

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby D. H2Oman » Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:38 pm

Core wrote:I don't want to talk about it...


Don't worry Core, she was making fun of LtK the biggest underachiever in law school admissions history.

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Postby T14_Scholly » Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:40 pm

Buffalo
Albany
Vermont


Thx.

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Re: BP decides where you go to law school

Postby 98234872348 » Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:41 pm

f0bolous wrote:
mistergoft wrote:
nymets123 wrote:Fordham PT at sticker (210kish)

Rutgers Newark instate plus 10 grand scholly a year (comes out to 90kish total)

??????

not interested in midlaw. Big law for a few years and then govt work is what i want ideally.

You won't get midlaw regardless.

Fordham can get you Biglaw, but remember that it's only really a 30% chance (at best). I'd take RN over Fordham in this economy, I think.


honestly, with the income based repayment plan, does it really matter? fordham gives you a bigger shot at biglaw, but if you end up with shitlaw at either, your loan repayments are capped every month and discharged after x number of years (10 if public interest)


Yes but you have to make a certain minimum amount to qualify for IBR and it is limited to specific jobs. Therefore, if I take the IBR route after I get shitpwned at OCI by firms that are tentative about hiring grads in the top half T10s, I am basically circumscribed to living off of a mediocre salary for the rest of the life of my loan. If I end up getting a job that pays somewhat decently 3 to 5 years down the road, which isn't an unreasonable proposition if somehow miraculously obtain some sort of a job giving me decent legal experience, I'll be saddled with 100k more debt (and probably significantly more than that if I am letting interest accrue). Like I said, it's a risk; if he's not risk averse, I say shoot for the stars. Just remember that Fordham isn't going to give you a SIGNIFICANTLY better chance (read: better than 20% at best) at a job in a big firm...




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