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Post by Bronte » Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:57 pm

OH MY SHIT!!!! What is going on!!!!???? Did the rankings get posted?

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Post by Nicholasnickynic » Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:58 pm

chadwick218 wrote:The biggest losser appears to be the University of Missouri. Down 34 spots from 59 to 93!

Anyone know what happened their?

I mean thats a gigantic loss.

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Post by Nicholasnickynic » Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:58 pm

Bronte wrote:OH MY SHIT!!!! What is going on!!!!???? Did the rankings get posted?
in this very thread... or just check Abovethelaw.com

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Post by Panther7 » Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:59 pm

I want to meet the guy who failed Wisconsin's diploma privilege...



And kudos for Duke, they've become masters of fudging.

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What is going on with Davis? Really? I didn't even seriously consider them a year ago but all they do is go up and up

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Post by holybartender » Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:01 pm

arhmcpo wrote:What is going on with Davis? Really? I didn't even seriously consider them a year ago but all they do is go up and up
They specialize in state bankruptcy law.

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holybartender wrote:oh lord am I at risk for a lawsuit now =(
Maybe.

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Post by nascent » Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:01 pm

Panther7 wrote:I want to meet the guy who failed Wisconsin's diploma privilege...



And kudos for Duke, they've become masters of fudging.
Are you talking about how Duke got 100% employment rate right after graduation?

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Post by chadwick218 » Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:02 pm

Nicholasnickynic wrote:
chadwick218 wrote:The biggest losser appears to be the University of Missouri. Down 34 spots from 59 to 93!

Anyone know what happened their?

I mean thats a gigantic loss.
Being from St. Louis, my understanding is that job placement in St. Louis in Kansas City was abysmal and with state budget cuts and lot of key faculty walked. However, this doesn't explain such a precipitous decline. They are ranked behind so many public schools that they had a leg up on ever since the rankings came out.

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Post by td6624 » Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:03 pm

Sucks for SLU, DePaul, and Marquette I guess.

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Post by ggocat » Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:03 pm

holybartender wrote:
arhmcpo wrote:What is going on with Davis? Really? I didn't even seriously consider them a year ago but all they do is go up and up
They specialize in state bankruptcy law.
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Post by Bronte » Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:04 pm

Nicholasnickynic wrote:
Bronte wrote:OH MY SHIT!!!! What is going on!!!!???? Did the rankings get posted?
in this very thread... or just check Abovethelaw.com
Interesting, is abovethelaw.com accredited by the American Bar Association?

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Not sure if anyone has posted this yet, but Cornell has the highest bar passage rate in NY. Higher than Yale, Harvard, Columbia, NYU, Duke, UVA, ect...

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Nicholasnickynic wrote:
chadwick218 wrote:The biggest losser appears to be the University of Missouri. Down 34 spots from 59 to 93!

Anyone know what happened their?

I mean thats a gigantic loss.
Besides that the big losses that I think are surprising are Buffalo, South Carolina, and Marquette falling out. All fell out from the 80s.

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Rawlsian wrote:Not sure if anyone has posted this yet, but Cornell has the highest bar passage rate in NY. Higher than Yale, Harvard, Columbia, NYU, Duke, UVA, ect...

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Bronte wrote:
Nicholasnickynic wrote:
Bronte wrote:OH MY SHIT!!!! What is going on!!!!???? Did the rankings get posted?
in this very thread... or just check Abovethelaw.com
Interesting, is abovethelaw.com accredited by the American Bar Association?
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rayiner wrote:
pelmen74 wrote: I assume there is a strong self-selection bias. NU does have the reputation for older students, most of which go to law school because they want to get paid, hence BigLaw. I assume the percentage doing clerkships or public service in NU is low (correct me if I'm wrong). This contribute to low peer assessment, especially from judges. Plus, NJ250 stats does not mean good Vault 20 placement stats which I assume could make a difference in peer assessment.
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Post by PhantaManta » Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:10 pm

Holy shit @ ASU!

What the fuck happened there?! They just CRUSHED U Arizona... WOW.

That is the biggest surprise for me.

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Post by mikeytwoshoes » Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:11 pm

julesm2200 wrote:
Nicholasnickynic wrote:
mavsman88 wrote:With 200 schools someones gotta talk. And I heard this new "methadology" uswr is using is very similiar to Cooleys. Could mean big things for the countries premiere law school.

You heard wrong. You can easily find this years methodology on the usnwr website. There were minor tweakings.

You really think usnwr would put heavy emphasis on size of library?
why so serious?
A student needs a seat to study.

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chadwick218 wrote:
Nicholasnickynic wrote:
chadwick218 wrote:The biggest losser appears to be the University of Missouri. Down 34 spots from 59 to 93!

Anyone know what happened their?

I mean thats a gigantic loss.
Being from St. Louis, my understanding is that job placement in St. Louis in Kansas City was abysmal and with state budget cuts and lot of key faculty walked. However, this doesn't explain such a precipitous decline. They are ranked behind so many public schools that they had a leg up on ever since the rankings came out.
Mizzou is also AWFUL about giving scholarships... seriously, WUSTL and several other T25 were cheaper for me than Mizzou. They just aren't attracting top students.

I feel terrible for SLU, though. They deserve to be a Tier 2... they have phenomenal St. Louis placement, the best health law program in the country, and fought WUSTL to the bitter end for jobs this year (their career services official is phenomenal).

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Post by Bronte » Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:16 pm

Nicholasnickynic wrote:above the law = Law gossip
Huh. I noticed that a few of the schools in the alleged rankings are unaccredited, namely the University of Michigan and the University of Pennsylvania. This seems to cast doubt on the leak's veracity.

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Post by sumus romani » Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:17 pm

One thing that strikes me upon further examination is the peer and lawyer scores.

They really break up into four groups this year. YHS are all pretty much equivalent. C and C are equal. N, B, P, M and V are pretty much equivalent. Then we get to D, N, C and G, which are pretty much equivalent. Everything after is markedly lower.

It wasn't nearly such a neat order last year.
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