USNWR Rankings Released...Seriously Forum

[cindytran872]

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[donzoli]

1. Yale
2. Harvard
3. Stanford
4. Columbia
5. Chicago +1
6. NYU -1
7. Cal-Berkeley -1
7. Penn +1
9. Michigan
10. Virginia
11. Duke -1
11. Northwestern -1
13. Cornell
14. Georgetown
15. UCLA
15. Texas
17. Vanderbilt
18. USC
19. WUSTL
20. GW +8
21. Illinois +2
22. BU -2
22. Emory -2
22. Minnesota -2
22. Notre Dame +1
26. Iowa
27. Indiana -4
28. Boston College -2
28. William & Mary
28. UC-Davis +7
28. Georgia +7
28. North Carolina +2
28. Wisconsin +7
34. Fordham -4
34. Ohio State +1
34. Washington -4
34. Washington & Lee -4
38. Arizona State +17
38. Alabama -8
37. Colorado - Boulder +8
38. Wake Forest +2
42. BYU -1
42. George Mason -1
42. Arizona +1
42. UC-Hastings -3
42. Utah +3
47. Florida +4
48. American -3
48. SMU +1
48. Tulane -3
48. Maryland -5

Tier 2

52. Pepperdine +3
52. Yeshiva -3
54. Florida State -2
54. UConn -2
56. Case Western -1
56. Loyola - CA +15
56. Cincinnati -4
56. San Diego +5
60. Georgia State +5
60. Houston -1
60. Miami +11
60. Tennessee-Knoxville -1
64. Baylor +1
64. Lewis & Clark -3
64. Kentucky -9
67. Brooklyn -6
67. Kansas -2
67. New Mexico +10
67. Pittsburgh +4
67. Villanova -6
72. Penn State -7
72. Seton Hall +5
72. St. John's +15
72. Temple -7
72. Hawai'i +28
72. Oklahoma -1
78. Loyola - Chicago +9
78. UNLV -2
80. Chicago-Kent -3
80. LSU -5
80. Rutgers-Camden -3
80. Rutgers - Newark +7
80. Denver -3
80. Oregon -3
86. Hofstra +14
86. Indiana-Indianapolis +1
86. Northeastern +8
86. Seattle -9
86. Syracuse +14
86. Arkansas-Fayeteville +8
86. Richmond -9
93. Chapman +7
93. Santa Clara -8
93. Missouri -28
93. Nebraska-Lincoln +7
93. West Virginia +7
98. Catholic -4
98. DePaul -11
98. San Fransisco
98. Pacific-McGeorge +2
98. William Mitchell +2

Someone should double check these, just did them in a rush.

I find the 28 spot interesting. You got three jumps of 7 and a 2. What gives with Wisconsin, Davis, and Georgia all jumping so much?

[pelmen74]

Lol @ NU having a lower peer assessment score than GULC and Cornell

Yeah that really sucks for NU and it has not been able to really escape that for a very long time!

Yet it had the best placement in the NJ250 survey. Quite the paradox.

I assume there is a strong self-selection bias. NU does have the reputation for older students, most of which go to law school because they want to get paid, hence BigLaw. I assume the percentage doing clerkships or public service in NU is low (correct me if I'm wrong). This contribute to low peer assessment, especially from judges. Plus, NJ250 stats does not mean good Vault 20 placement stats which I assume could make a difference in peer assessment.

[dshirs32]

Why did University of Richmond drop 9 spots from 77 to 86? Seems very surprising

[dreamweaver87]

where's minnesota, though?

#22. I missed it in the first type-up.

ah, looking at the scans now. thanks.

[hiromoto45]

Where did UC-Irvine rank? I can't seem to find it.

[jmhendri]

Where did UC-Irvine rank? I can't seem to find it.

Irvine's ranking is a pure estimation by TLS. It's not accredited yet.

[ggocat]

Where did UC-Irvine rank? I can't seem to find it.

Not until it's accredited. That takes several years.

HTH for the millionth time.

[peterswe]

Good to see Loyola-Chicago moving back up.

Wonder what the deal was with Depaul?

[honestabe84]

1. Yale
2. Harvard
3. Stanford
4. Columbia
5. Chicago +1
6. NYU -1
7. Cal-Berkeley -1
7. Penn +1
9. Michigan
10. Virginia
11. Duke -1
11. Northwestern -1
13. Cornell
14. Georgetown
15. UCLA
15. Texas
17. Vanderbilt
18. USC
19. WUSTL
20. GW +8
21. Illinois +2
22. BU -2
22. Emory -2
22. Minnesota -2
22. Notre Dame +1
26. Iowa
27. Indiana -4
28. Boston College -2
28. William & Mary
28. UC-Davis +7
28. Georgia +7
28. North Carolina +2
28. Wisconsin +7
34. Fordham -4
34. Ohio State +1
34. Washington -4
34. Washington & Lee -4
38. Arizona State +17
38. Alabama -8
37. Colorado - Boulder +8
38. Wake Forest +2
42. BYU -1
42. George Mason -1
42. Arizona +1
42. UC-Hastings -3
42. Utah +3
47. Florida +4
48. American -3
48. SMU +1
48. Tulane -3
48. Maryland -5

Tier 2

52. Pepperdine +3
52. Yeshiva -3
54. Florida State -2
54. UConn -2
56. Case Western -1
56. Loyola - CA +15
56. Cincinnati -4
56. San Diego +5
60. Georgia State +5
60. Houston -1
60. Miami +11
60. Tennessee-Knoxville -1
64. Baylor +1
64. Lewis & Clark -3
64. Kentucky -9
67. Brooklyn -6
67. Kansas -2
67. New Mexico +10
67. Pittsburgh +4
67. Villanova -6
72. Penn State -7
72. Seton Hall +5
72. St. John's +15
72. Temple -7
72. Hawai'i +28
72. Oklahoma -1
78. Loyola - Chicago +9
78. UNLV -2
80. Chicago-Kent -3
80. LSU -5
80. Rutgers-Camden -3
80. Rutgers - Newark +7
80. Denver -3
80. Oregon -3
86. Hofstra +14
86. Indiana-Indianapolis +1
86. Northeastern +8
86. Seattle -9
86. Syracuse +14
86. Arkansas-Fayeteville +8
86. Richmond -9
93. Chapman +7
93. Santa Clara -8
93. Missouri -28
93. Nebraska-Lincoln +7
93. West Virginia +7
98. Catholic -4
98. DePaul -11
98. San Fransisco
98. Pacific-McGeorge +2
98. William Mitchell +2

Someone should double check these, just did them in a rush.

I find the 28 spot interesting. You got three jumps of 7 and a 2. What gives with Wisconsin, Davis, and Georgia all jumping so much?

That's the most movement I've ever seen. I mean moving 15 or 16 spots is huge, but 28???

[quetzalcoatl]

Hawai just flew from T3 to mid T2, impressive.

Glad to see Chicago is back in its rightful place

[goansongo]

Minnesota or GW?

Cooley.

[YCrevolution]

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[rayiner]

Lol @ NU having a lower peer assessment score than GULC and Cornell

Yeah that really sucks for NU and it has not been able to really escape that for a very long time!

Yet it had the best placement in the NJ250 survey. Quite the paradox.

I assume there is a strong self-selection bias. NU does have the reputation for older students, most of which go to law school because they want to get paid, hence BigLaw. I assume the percentage doing clerkships or public service in NU is low (correct me if I'm wrong). This contribute to low peer assessment, especially from judges. Plus, NJ250 stats does not mean good Vault 20 placement stats which I assume could make a difference in peer assessment.

http://lawfirmaddict.blogspot.com/2006/ ... ement.html

[Nicholasnickynic]

Why did University of Richmond drop 9 spots from 77 to 86? Seems very surprising

Because its a crappy school... read the tls profile... doesn't really have a lot going for it...

[rayiner]

She deserves the credit, she sent me a bulk pdf of all of it and I separated and hosted it for her since she was at work. I'm also at work but, well, I guess that's why she's in at Columbia and I'm not.

It could be worse. You could have lost your only t10 acceptance.

Suddenly the crusade for the T12 strikes a pretty important string in my heart.

Do people who use "T10" also say "T5" instead of "T6"? BC if you're going to use completely arbitrary "round number" breaks instead of looking at the point totals, you should be consistent about it!

[showNprove]

She deserves the credit, she sent me a bulk pdf of all of it and I separated and hosted it for her since she was at work. I'm also at work but, well, I guess that's why she's in at Columbia and I'm not.

It could be worse. You could have lost your only t10 acceptance.

Suddenly the crusade for the T12 strikes a pretty important string in my heart.

Do people who use "T10" also say "T5" instead of "T6"? BC if you're going to use completely arbitrary "round number" breaks, you should be consistent about it!

I say "T5"--but that's because I think NYU floats somewhere between CC and MVBP.

[Always Credited]

I want to know the story behind how she got the rankings!

I want to know the story behind how you were going to sue Georgetown.

lol

it's posted already.

So is the story behind how these rankings were released. Indeed, we're actually still posting in the thread where it went down!

[jack duluoz]

looks like GW finally learned how to fudge data.

[pelmen74]

I assume there is a strong self-selection bias. NU does have the reputation for older students, most of which go to law school because they want to get paid, hence BigLaw. I assume the percentage doing clerkships or public service in NU is low (correct me if I'm wrong). This contribute to low peer assessment, especially from judges. Plus, NJ250 stats does not mean good Vault 20 placement stats which I assume could make a difference in peer assessment.

http://lawfirmaddict.blogspot.com/2006/ ... ement.html

and BOOM goes the dynamite.

I see that I am making lots of assumption. Apparently they are all fantastically accurate

[pennstatepride]

looks like GW finally learned how to fudge data.

Look at the GPA/LSAT medians....no fudging necessary

[Always Credited]

looks like GW finally learned how to fudge data.

Apparently every school making any sort of well deserved headway back into the rank where its nearly always been ranked fudged current data to get there.

[HooCavalier]

looks like GW finally learned how to fudge data.

Look at the GPA/LSAT medians....no fudging necessary

The truth.

[holybartender]

oh lord am I at risk for a lawsuit now =(

[chadwick218]

The biggest losser appears to be the University of Missouri. Down 34 spots from 59 to 93!