Debating T2's

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Which T2?

DePaul (Chicago)
3
6%
Chicago-Kent
7
13%
Santa Clara
21
39%
Seattle University
5
9%
Rutgers-Newark
13
24%
Rutgers-Camden
5
9%
 
Total votes: 54

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Debating T2's

Postby bk1 » Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:38 am

The most important things to me are job prospects, location, and ability to transfer if I win the lottery after 1L (I understand this is unlikely but I would like it to be at least possible if remote, this is because I read somewhere that Rutgers-Newark does not rank their students and I assume that would make it that much harder for one to be accepted as a transfer student).

1. Location - SF = NYC > Bay Area >= Chicago = Seattle (SF and NYC are the same to me, Bay Area has a slight edge over Chicago but I would go to Chicago for better job prospects, and I might ignore these entirely if going to Seattle or NJ gave me a significantly better chance.)

2. Job Prospects - I understand that biglaw is pretty much out of the question due to T2 but I would like the best possible job prospects post-graduation.

3. Ability to Transfer - As noted above, but this is not a huge concern. If someone could clear this up for me it would be appreciated.

4. Money - Not much of an issue and not really a factor to me. I am not debt-averse and have 15-20k/year academic scholarships to all of them.

If people could give me some input as to why, it would be really helpful. Also, If I were to get into Brooklyn, would it have better job prospects than all of the above?

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Re: Debating T2's

Postby darknightbegins » Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:30 am

Guess take one of the Rutgers considering what you want job wise and your preference geographically. I'd think one of the Rutger schools could get you a better shot at NYC employment than Santa Clara could get you a shot at Bay Area employment.

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Re: Debating T2's

Postby bk1 » Wed Mar 31, 2010 1:57 pm

Which Rutgers has the better shot at NYC employment? What % of the class would it take to get that? Any other opinions on this, considering there is a lot of votes for SCU.

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Re: Debating T2's

Postby bk1 » Thu Apr 01, 2010 4:03 am

Another addendum. Would American University (DC) give better prospects jobwise in the private sector than the above mentioned schools? (not taking location into account)

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Re: Debating T2's

Postby superflush » Thu Apr 01, 2010 4:24 am

This is a no brainer, Santa Clara.

bk1 wrote:Which Rutgers has the better shot at NYC employment? What % of the class would it take to get that? Any other opinions on this, considering there is a lot of votes for SCU.


Are you serious? Obviously its the one that is close to NYC.

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Re: Debating T2's

Postby superflush » Thu Apr 01, 2010 4:26 am

bk1 wrote:If people could give me some input as to why, it would be really helpful. Also, If I were to get into Brooklyn, would it have better job prospects than all of the above?


If you got into BLS, you'd have better prospects than Rutgers.

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Re: Debating T2's

Postby bk1 » Thu Apr 01, 2010 8:35 am

superflush wrote:Are you serious? Obviously its the one that is close to NYC.


I assumed as much but thought it couldn't hurt to ask.

Would BLS be better than SCU?

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Re: Debating T2's

Postby keg411 » Thu Apr 01, 2010 8:38 am

superflush wrote:
bk1 wrote:If people could give me some input as to why, it would be really helpful. Also, If I were to get into Brooklyn, would it have better job prospects than all of the above?


If you got into BLS, you'd have better prospects than Rutgers.


I got into BLS (no $) and there is zero chance I go there over either Rutgers because I don't think whatever the options are are worth $150k more in debt. But I'm not aiming for NYC and am totally cool with staying and working in NJ.

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Re: Debating T2's

Postby kissy » Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:27 am

keg411 wrote:
superflush wrote:
bk1 wrote:If people could give me some input as to why, it would be really helpful. Also, If I were to get into Brooklyn, would it have better job prospects than all of the above?


If you got into BLS, you'd have better prospects than Rutgers.


I got into BLS (no $) and there is zero chance I go there over either Rutgers because I don't think whatever the options are are worth $150k more in debt. But I'm not aiming for NYC and am totally cool with staying and working in NJ.

twins?

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Re: Debating T2's

Postby keg411 » Thu Apr 01, 2010 1:05 pm

???

My point was that I got into BLS and don't have "better" choices than Rutgers. I'm on a bunch of WL's. Anyway, I was trying to make the point to see if anyone would say that sticker BLS > $/cheap tuition at either Rutgers school (which I don't want to, but I would want to see the reasoning behind it).

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Re: Debating T2's

Postby kissy » Thu Apr 01, 2010 3:35 pm

keg411 wrote:
superflush wrote:
bk1 wrote:If people could give me some input as to why, it would be really helpful. Also, If I were to get into Brooklyn, would it have better job prospects than all of the above?


If you got into BLS, you'd have better prospects than Rutgers.


I got into BLS (no $) and there is zero chance I go there over either Rutgers because I don't think whatever the options are are worth $150k more in debt. But I'm not aiming for NYC and am totally cool with staying and working in NJ.

same here. sorry for not being more specific?

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Re: Debating T2's

Postby keg411 » Thu Apr 01, 2010 4:56 pm

I'm still curious about the "if you got into BLS you would have better prospects than Rutgers" comment. Does that mean BLS is significantly better (or worth sticker - which is doubtful)? Does that mean if I can get into Brooklyn, I have acceptances at higher ranked schools? (Hasn't happened, but I have a bucket full of WL's). I really want to know about this :(.

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Re: Debating T2's

Postby superflush » Fri Apr 02, 2010 4:06 am

bk1 wrote:Would BLS be better than SCU?


Well, it really comes down to where you would rather live.

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Re: Debating T2's

Postby superflush » Fri Apr 02, 2010 4:07 am

keg411 wrote:I'm still curious about the "if you got into BLS you would have better prospects than Rutgers" comment. Does that mean BLS is significantly better (or worth sticker - which is doubtful)? Does that mean if I can get into Brooklyn, I have acceptances at higher ranked schools? (Hasn't happened, but I have a bucket full of WL's). I really want to know about this :(.


I meant, the career prospects from BLS would be better than the career prospects from Rutgers.

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Re: Debating T2's

Postby keg411 » Fri Apr 02, 2010 8:46 am

superflush wrote:
keg411 wrote:I'm still curious about the "if you got into BLS you would have better prospects than Rutgers" comment. Does that mean BLS is significantly better (or worth sticker - which is doubtful)? Does that mean if I can get into Brooklyn, I have acceptances at higher ranked schools? (Hasn't happened, but I have a bucket full of WL's). I really want to know about this :(.


I meant, the career prospects from BLS would be better than the career prospects from Rutgers.


So much that BLS sticker >>>> Rutgers (with $ + in-state tuition)?

Can you clarify on this? Because everything else I have heard is the opposite. (Not talking about in NYC only; talking about NY/NJ together). Are Brooklyn prospects really worth 150k more than Rutgers?

Hence why I asked for elaboration :).

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Re: Debating T2's

Postby kissy » Fri Apr 02, 2010 9:34 am

keg411 wrote:
superflush wrote:
keg411 wrote:I'm still curious about the "if you got into BLS you would have better prospects than Rutgers" comment. Does that mean BLS is significantly better (or worth sticker - which is doubtful)? Does that mean if I can get into Brooklyn, I have acceptances at higher ranked schools? (Hasn't happened, but I have a bucket full of WL's). I really want to know about this :(.


I meant, the career prospects from BLS would be better than the career prospects from Rutgers.


So much that BLS sticker >>>> Rutgers (with $ + in-state tuition)?

Can you clarify on this? Because everything else I have heard is the opposite. (Not talking about in NYC only; talking about NY/NJ together). Are Brooklyn prospects really worth 150k more than Rutgers?

Hence why I asked for elaboration :).


IMO BLS sticker would never be worth it.

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Re: Debating T2's

Postby keg411 » Fri Apr 02, 2010 10:36 am

kissy, I agree with you, but I'm trying to find out if maybe superflush knows something that I am missing.

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Re: Debating T2's

Postby superflush » Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:41 am

keg411 wrote:So much that BLS sticker >>>> Rutgers (with $ + in-state tuition)?

Can you clarify on this? Because everything else I have heard is the opposite. (Not talking about in NYC only; talking about NY/NJ together). Are Brooklyn prospects really worth 150k more than Rutgers?

Hence why I asked for elaboration :).


Okay, so you are in-state.
If the difference is really 150k, then I'd only pick BLS over Rutgers if I had the money up-front and really wanted to work in NYC.




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